Sleeping with Watch

[Rogifan]

Jony Ive made an interesting comment at the SFMOMA ceremony he was honored at.

http://recode.net/2014/11/01/san-francisco-treasure-jony-ive-talks-apple-watch-at-sfmoma-gala/

And because it’s a new product, he said there’s “a childlike awe and curiosity” about what the Apple Watch might do. As an example, he spoke about its alarm-clock function.

“Just yesterday, somebody was saying, ‘Wow, do you know what I just did? I set the alarm in the morning, and it woke just me by tapping my wrist. It didn’t wake my wife or my baby,'” he recounted. “Isn’t that fantastic?”

This comment made me curious. If someone is using the watch as an alarm clock I would assume that means they were wearing it while sleeping. But the assumption has always been the watch would be charging the watch while you were sleeping. So now I'm more confused than ever on battery life, when you charge this thing and how long it takes to charge.

 

[sonicrobby]

I guess that might be a feature for people who charge it during the daytime

 

[Rogifan]

I guess that might be a feature for people who charge it during the daytime

I'm really interested to see how long it takes to recharge the battery. Can I come home at night and charge it before I go to bed and then charge it again before I go to work in the morning? Or does it take hours to charge?

 

[Julien]

Apple could do a quick charge feature like 80% in ½ an hour. You could then charge while getting ready. This might take 2 charges a day in order to wear at night though. Also any quick charging shortens the life span of Lith-ion batteries. In general the slower you charge the more cycles you will get. So anytime you see quick or fast charging there is a battery life cost.

 

[sonicrobby]

I'm really interested to see how long it takes to recharge the battery. Can I come home at night and charge it before I go to bed and then charge it again before I go to work in the morning? Or does it take hours to charge?

Interesting. If it were a real quick charge, then the battery life would be a null point. I really do hope the inductive charging is quick. Honestly that, along with the price point of the other models, is what will determine my purchase of one.

 

[goobot]

The physical battery is probably small so it would charge fast. As for this function it is useless to me personally since there are times where my alarm ringing in my ear for 10 minutes straight hasn't woken me up. I highly doubt a light buzz on my arm will do any better.

 

[flynz4]

Wearing it at night would be one reason why I might consider the Apple Watch. I really like the "sleep cycle" app on my iPhone... except that I hate having to put the phone under the fitted sheet. Hence I stopped using the app even though it is the most civilized way I've ever used to wake in the morning. Having the watch on my wrist could monitor my sleep mode, and make sure that I am not woken during REM.

If I can get by with a daily charge during the 30 mins or so when I shave, shower, etc... then it might flip me over to buying the watch.

/Jim

 

[kmj2318]

Probably doesn't take long at all to charge.

 

[Alimar]

Jony Ive made an interesting comment at the SFMOMA ceremony he was honored at.

http://recode.net/2014/11/01/san-francisco-treasure-jony-ive-talks-apple-watch-at-sfmoma-gala/



This comment made me curious. If someone is using the watch as an alarm clock I would assume that means they were wearing it while sleeping. But the assumption has always been the watch would be charging the watch while you were sleeping. So now I'm more confused than ever on battery life, when you charge this thing and how long it takes to charge.

Future models will charge from the human pulse. And maybe snoring? But not flatulence.

 

[jason.siegel]

This sounds like a novelty feature that most consumers won't really be able to take advantage of, due to the battery capacity issue, which you already identified. Maybe Apple Watch 2?

 

[matrix07]

Wearing it at night would be one reason why I might consider the Apple Watch. I really like the "sleep cycle" app on my iPhone... except that I hate having to put the phone under the fitted sheet. Hence I stopped using the app even though it is the most civilized way I've ever used to wake in the morning. Having the watch on my wrist could monitor my sleep mode, and make sure that I am not woken during REM.

If I can get by with a daily charge during the 30 mins or so when I shave, shower, etc... then it might flip me over to buying the watch.

/Jim

What is the app you're talking about? Health app or 3rd party? Could you provide a link for me to try?

 

[mtmac]

I also question wether I'd wake up or not, but it could set off a watch and iPhone alarm if you didn't get up. Many couples do not sleep in the same bed for this very reason. This could be a very compelling reason for many to buy this watch.

I would imagine that even if it does not fast charge per se, it will still charge fast as the battery is so small. For many even if lower battery life results from fast charging, the feature would be worth replacing the battery sooner. Anyone know the charge times of other smart watches?

 

[flynz4]

What is the app you're talking about? Health app or 3rd party? Could you provide a link for me to try?

Look in the Apple App Store for iOS. Application is "Sleep Cycle". Developer is "Northcube AB".

The app monitors your movement and can tell when you are in REM... and wakes you when you are not in REM.

The default is to wake you no later than your specified wake up time... and up to 30 minutes prior depending on your cycle. So for example... if you want to wake up at 7:00a... it will wake you up some time between 6:30 and 7:00. This is configurable.

If you tap on the phone, it will snooze. The snooze interval is indeterminate... but gets shorter as you approach the absolute wake-up time. So in my example... once it is 7:00, it is not capable of being snoozed any longer.

The music is all very pleasant, but it is amazing how effective it is. As time goes on... it slowly gets louder. Eventually, it will start vibrating as well, and you can feel in in the bed. The default music can be replaced with your own (if I remember right). I like the collection of music they provide. Very new age and pleasant to wake up to.

It really is quite effective, with the obvious disadvantage that you need to place it under the sheets (face down) so it can monitor your sleep. I think the reason for being face down is so that you do not hit the home button and kill the app, which runs all night.

Maybe if this app is updated for the apple watch... I could leave my iPhone docked on my nightstand, and the watch could provide the motion sensor data. Of course, this is speculation on my part.

/Jim

 

[samiznaetekto]

"I set the alarm in the morning" can be interpreted as he goes to bed in the morning (after charging it all night) and sleeps all day with it. That's the only way mehWatch can last a day.

 

[Rogifan]

Interesting. If it were a real quick charge, then the battery life would be a null point. I really do hope the inductive charging is quick. Honestly that, along with the price point of the other models, is what will determine my purchase of one.

Tim Cook's most recent comment said he expects you'd be charging it daily. Of course without knowing how long it takes to charge the assumption is you'd charge it at night while sleeping. Which makes Ive's comment confusing as how is it waking you up if it's on a stand charging? It would be awesome if it charged fast enough that you could charge when you get home before you go to bed, wear it to bed and then charge it again in the morning before you leave for the day. But I'm not getting my hopes up.

 

[matrix07]

Look in the Apple App Store for iOS. Application is "Sleep Cycle". Developer is "Northcube AB".

The app monitors your movement and can tell when you are in REM... and wakes you when you are not in REM.

The default is to wake you no later than your specified wake up time... and up to 30 minutes prior depending on your cycle. So for example... if you want to wake up at 7:00a... it will wake you up some time between 6:30 and 7:00. This is configurable.

If you tap on the phone, it will snooze. The snooze interval is indeterminate... but gets shorter as you approach the absolute wake-up time. So in my example... once it is 7:00, it is not capable of being snoozed any longer.

The music is all very pleasant, but it is amazing how effective it is. As time goes on... it slowly gets louder. Eventually, it will start vibrating as well, and you can feel in in the bed. The default music can be replaced with your own (if I remember right). I like the collection of music they provide. Very new age and pleasant to wake up to.

It really is quite effective, with the obvious disadvantage that you need to place it under the sheets (face down) so it can monitor your sleep. I think the reason for being face down is so that you do not hit the home button and kill the app, which runs all night.

Maybe if this app is updated for the apple watch... I could leave my iPhone docked on my nightstand, and the watch could provide the motion sensor data. Of course, this is speculation on my part.

/Jim

Thank you. I heard of it. Will check it out.

 

[Julien]

A few years ago a compony called Zeo had a sleep monitor that you wore as a headband. While it looked a little silly it was actually comfy and no intrusive. Too bad they went belly up a couple of years ago. I still have and was hoping someone would buy and revive the tech.

 

[BvizioN]

I'm really interested to see how long it takes to recharge the battery. Can I come home at night and charge it before I go to bed and then charge it again before I go to work in the morning? Or does it take hours to charge?

That's how I used to charge my fit gear. Only few hours on the evening when back home from work, and then back on my wrist again before bed time. That though had around 3 days of battery life.

 

[Rogifan]

I think Apple is still working on battery life. There's a reason the watch was announced 6 months before it ships and I don't think it was just about leaks. My guess is Apple's original goal was to have it available for the holiday quarter but they got behind schedule and had to push it to the following quarter. And since Tim Cook publicly said Apple would be announcing a new product category in 2014 he had no choice but to announce it this year whether it was ready or not.

 

[brsboarder]

At night it may have a sleep mode or airplane mode type function which drains very little battery life. No notifications, no screen lit up, only there for a watch and alarm...that would make sense.

 

[DesignG]

Guys and girls, how long does it take to fully recharge a iPhone? I don't have one so I can't assume if the apple watch could possibly charge really fast.

 

[Julien]

Guys and girls, how long does it take to fully recharge a iPhone?....

About 3 hours.

 

[Rogifan]

About 3 hours.

So the watch would for sure have to be less than that.

 

[Julien]

So the watch would for sure have to be less than that.

Almost certainly and if using about the same charge rate you could probably have a 90% charge in about an hour. Again Apple (and all companies) decide how fast it wants to change the Lith-Ion. The faster you change a Lith-Ion the fewer lifetime cycles it will have (also produces more heat). So it's a compromise to offer fast charging.

 

[burne]

Guys and girls, how long does it take to fully recharge a iPhone? I don't have one so I can't assume if the apple watch could possibly charge really fast.

I've had an iPhone in my pocket for 6 years 3 months 23 days. I managed to need a *full* recharge just once, in that time. It's 20 minutes past midnight over here. I did a 1 hour 14 minutes training session on my bike today, during which my phone was active all the time. I talked to my father for 28 minutes, and looked at the weather and news etc a few times. Read and replies email etc.

Battery is down to 66%.

Charging will be about 40-50 minutes, I'd guess. It's a Sunday.