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Hi all,

I'm finding the new lock screen a bit "jarring"; I've been swiping to unlock for eight years so I keep ending up on the widget screen.

I've found a few articles saying that you can restore the old behaviour via Accessibility settings/Home Button/Rest Finger to Open. However, both positions seem to do the exact same thing: Take me to a blank "lock" screen and require a second press of the Home button to unlock the phone.

Is there a way to restore the old behaviour in the GM?
 

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There is no slide to unlock. The accessibility feature is basically there to help with TouchID unlocking where pressing the home button and leaving the finger on it would unlock the phone, as it has been doing the for a number of years since TouchID came about, but it doesn't have anything to do with sliding to unlock.
 

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Sigh. I guess it's changed since a previous beta (I never tried any of them). I really wish that companies wouldn't make this sort of "muscle-memory-breaking" change without having an option to change it back :(
 

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Sigh. I guess it's changed since a previous beta (I never tried any of them). I really wish that companies wouldn't make this sort of "muscle-memory-breaking" change without having an option to change it back :(
I don't really think it changed from previous betas as slide to unlock wasn't there in earlier ones either (although the rest finger option wasn't working until beta 3 or so).
 

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Sigh. I guess it's changed since a previous beta (I never tried any of them). I really wish that companies wouldn't make this sort of "muscle-memory-breaking" change without having an option to change it back :(

You'll get used to it faster than you'd think. Especially if you have a phone that supports raise to wake.
 

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Just get use to it... pressing the home button is easer then sliding to unlock ever was.... A lot of people have also spent the last eight years pressing their home button to wake their phone... and that has pretty much just unlocked it automatically since the iPhone 5s
 

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Just get use to it... pressing the home button is easer then sliding to unlock ever was.... A lot of people have also spent the last eight years pressing their home button to wake their phone... and that has pretty much just unlocked it automatically since the iPhone 5s

That it was harder was the point of doing it in the first place. Unintended button presses won’t unlock the device if no password is set. The reason why Apple changed it is because most users use Touch ID or a passcode now and benefit from a newer flow, at the cost of the previous behaviour.
 

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That it was harder was the point of doing it in the first place. Unintended button presses won’t unlock the device if no password is set. The reason why Apple changed it is because most users use Touch ID and benefit from a newer flow, at the cost of the previous behaviour.

Accidental button presses are not really an issue with Touch ID... or with having a passcode enabled for that matter... when the iPhone was first released most people didn't use a passcode.. if you squished the home button in your pocket it would unlock your phone... but I don't think Apple really supports the idea of not using those features even though you still have the ability not to... so slide to unlock is essentially pointless, other then the very limited number of people who don't use touch ID or a passcode
 

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Accidental button presses are not really an issue with Touch ID... or with having a passcode enabled for that matter... when the iPhone was first released most people didn't use a passcode.. if you squished the home button in your pocket it would unlock your phone... but I don't think Apple really supports the idea of not using those features even though you still have the ability not to... so slide to unlock is essentially pointless, other then the very limited number of people who don't use touch ID or a passcode

Still, not everyone uses Touch ID or a passcode. Which doesn’t make it technically pointless.

Apple does it because Apple is anal about enforcing defaults and providing few/no options unless they believe that a sizeable number of users will actually use them. Since Touch ID, I suspect that most devices will have some form of authentication, whereas it was around 40–50% before Touch ID was added (according to Apple). So the only reason why it disappears is likely because Apple considers usage with authentication a standard use case and redesigns the system to adapt to this new default. The existence of a minority apparently does not warrant an exception in this case. It doesn’t say anything about the pointlessness of slide to unlock, just that Apple doesn’t care about it anymore.
 
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I don't really think it changed from previous betas as slide to unlock wasn't there in earlier ones either (although the rest finger option wasn't working until beta 3 or so).
Hmm. This article was written for beta 2 and indicates that it'd return the "slide" functionality. Perhaps it was removed in beta 3 along with making "rest" work.

You'll get used to it faster than you'd think. Especially if you have a phone that supports raise to wake.
I'm assuming that "raise to wake" means that I'd have to physically pick the phone up off the desk, which sounds like even more effort. I also can't find "raise" or "wake" with the search in Settings to try to confirm this.

Just get use to it... pressing the home button is easer then sliding to unlock ever was....
I think the need to press it twice, with a delay, is annoying. If I double-press too quickly then it only goes to the lock screen.
 

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Hmm. This article was written for beta 2 and indicates that it'd return the "slide" functionality. Perhaps it was removed in beta 3 along with making "rest" work.


I'm assuming that "raise to wake" means that I'd have to physically pick the phone up off the desk, which sounds like even more effort. I also can't find "raise" or "wake" with the search in Settings to try to confirm this.
While they make it sound like that they expect that feature to do that, it seems like it's more of a misunderstanding on their part. They don't really show slide to unlock being back as part of them changing the options, the name of the option doesn't imply anything about sliding to unlock, and as I recall the option didn't even actually work until the following beta. Perhaps I'm off somewhere here, but that's how I'm recalling it all from those earlier days.
 
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Hmm. This article was written for beta 2 and indicates that it'd return the "slide" functionality. Perhaps it was removed in beta 3 along with making "rest" work.


I'm assuming that "raise to wake" means that I'd have to physically pick the phone up off the desk, which sounds like even more effort. I also can't find "raise" or "wake" with the search in Settings to try to confirm this.


I think the need to press it twice, with a delay, is annoying. If I double-press too quickly then it only goes to the lock screen.
You dont have to press it twice. Simply press the home button and wait 10 ms and BAM you are in. You can also set the option to not require the button press but simply touch finger to unlock (like old functionality).
 

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You dont have to press it twice. Simply press the home button and wait 10 ms and BAM you are in.
If I press once then it just goes to the lock screen (just like it did previously). There is text reading "Press Home to open" and I need to press it a second time to unlock.

If I press and hold then it opens Siri.
 

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If I press once then it just goes to the lock screen (just like it did previously). There is text reading "Press Home to open" and I need to press it a second time to unlock.

If I press and hold then it opens Siri.
They meant with Touch ID. It's much simpler to unlock with Touch ID. Pretty much the same as iOS 9.
 

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While they make it sound like that they expect that feature to do that, it seems like it's more of a misunderstanding on their part. They don't really show slide to unlock being back as part of them changing the options, the name of the option doesn't imply anything about sliding to unlock, and as I recall the option didn't even actually work until the following beta. Perhaps I'm off somewhere here, but that's how I'm recalling it all from those earlier days.

No, you're right on all counts. I don't even know how they got from a button that says "Rest to unlock" to "this totally enabled slide to unlock". Cynical SEO attempt perhaps?
 

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I assumed that they'd actually tested it before writing about it, but of course I underestimated the scientific process of a blogger...
 
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I assumed that they'd actually tested it before writing about it, but of course I underestimated the scientific process of a blogger...

lol!

Ok, I'm going to try to explain this but I'll concede it's not the most intuitive thing in the world

Let's leave the "Rest to Unlock" accessibility thing out of the way for the moment. Basically what it boils down to is that there is an extra state on the lock screen which will allow you to do secure things on the lock screen (lets say, reply to WhatsApp messages or confirm payments) once apps are updated to take advantage. Now the states of your phone are "locked at lock screen", "unlocked at lock screen", "unlocked and at home"

By default, this is the behavior you can expect: -

1) Quickly press home to wake then leave your finger on touchid. Same as always this should take you right to the home screen

2) Quickly press home and remove finger. Same as before this leaves you at the lock screen. You can look at notifications or widgets

3) Do the same as 2 but now rest your finger on touchid. You should the lock at the top of the screen change to unlocked. In this mode you can do things you wouldn't want a stranger doing on your phone. Sadly this doesn't really secure iMessages, which have long bypassed touchid for quick replies. Updated third party apps should respect this later though


I hope this makes sense.
 

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They meant with Touch ID. It's much simpler to unlock with Touch ID. Pretty much the same as iOS 9.
Except for the case when TouchID isn't used, where it's somewhat different than what it has been like before.
 

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I remember when Apple was renowned for usability and intuitiveness :(

I don't have Touch ID; my phone (6) supports it but it really doesn't like my scaly fingers so it's historically been more trouble than it's worth.
 

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I remember when Apple was reknowned for usability and intuitiveness :(

I don't have Touch ID; my phone (6) supports it but it really doesn't like my scaly fingers so it's historically been more trouble than it's worth.

Ah. I'll be honest and say I don't really know how the feature works without it then. Maybe someone else can explain it.
 

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You basically press the home button twice I believe.

I don't wanna fuzzy the thing up (any more) for Nermal but is it basically one push for locked lock screen, two for home screen? Are rich notifications disabled?
 

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I don't wanna fuzzy the thing up (any more) for Nermal but is it basically one push for locked lock screen, two for home screen? Are rich notifications disabled?
If there's no passcode then yes, otherwise you have to enter it first. Passcode can be entered whenever it's needed to use anything on the lockscreen.
 
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If there's no passcode then yes, otherwise you have to enter it first. Passcode can be entered whenever it's needed to use anything on the lockscreen.

Aaaah. I'm an idiot. It's been so long using touchid that I think of passcode as something that unlocks touchid, not the phone itself. That makes more sense, thanks.
 

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Maybe they could have changes the unlock procedure AFTER they abandoned the last device without Touch ID (iPhone 5), which is next year. Doing it now just makes everything confusing and worse for i5 users. Or better yet, just leave i5 and non-touch id devices with the old method.
 
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