A full screen SE would be a nice compromise.
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iPhone 13 mini Small iPhones are definitely dead not coming back
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Apple had tried it with 12 and 13 mini and it did not quite work for them.
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One option is to have the same mobile phone number on multiple devices. For example, here in the UK with EE you can use Smart Number, so you can have a small iPhone for when you go out (or just your Apple Watch) and a larger iPhone or iPad or Mac for at home for example.
Personally I use my iPhone 12 Mini or Watch when out but most of the time I’m at home so I use my iPad & Mac much much more.
Personally I use my iPhone 12 Mini or Watch when out but most of the time I’m at home so I use my iPad & Mac much much more.
They missed the boat somewhere with those two models.
Probably battery life on the 12 and price point on the 13.
That's where a full screen SE might fit in.
Look, I watched the video, and while yeah there's not really any arguing with the points Marques makes it doesn't stop me being irrationally mad at, like, the world that my 13 mini is probably going to be the last small phone I daily.
I went from the 4S to the 5S to the 6S to the 7 Plus, and never once thought back until my next upgrade was to the XR, which was so much easier to live with than that 7 Plus had been. Then I pulled out that old 5S, realized that was where the size and hand-feel had peaked, and started getting nostalgic. Then the mini phones happened and I thought I'd died and gone to heaven only to realize that this is actually purgatory and those phones only existed as a flash in the pan to show me exactly what I'd be missing for the rest of my life.
To say I feel like this whole journey has been a greek tragedy might be overselling it, but honestly not by that much.
Is that not the rumor for the next SE? Maybe I’m behind on the news. I think a 12/13 Mini form factor for the SE would do really well. Knock it back down to one rear facing camera like the current SE to save some costs, keep the notch, give it an A16 chip and voila!
Possibly so, it's probably me that's behind on the news!
SE with 13 Mini form factor would be a dream, but unfortunately the next SE will have 6” screen.
Weird choice! The Mini form factor seems perfect for the SE.SE with 13 Mini form factor would be a dream, but unfortunately the next SE will have 6” screen.
I only buy new, so only options on Amazon are £975 (512gb model in pink......😝).
I would only buy refurb from Apple, but 13 mini's never appear.
Some resent research into Amazon's refurbs states phones have at least 80% battery capacity....👎
This is pants, as my current 5 year old 7 has 87%.
An iPhone 12/14 mini form factor for SE is just an other iPhone mini which Apple has already tried and failed? Is it makes more sense for Apple to just open sales for refurbished iPhone 12/13 mini, like they used to do for first gen iPhome SE?
Isn’t next iPhone SE is rumored to have iPhone 14 body? I mean iPhone SE from beginning was using binned parts form couple years ago, so Apple doesn’t have to create new parts?
Yeah I agree, people that wanted small iPhones were basically a vocal minority. It’s telling that the Plus variants are also starting to pickup in sales a bit even over the minis.
First I think the Mini should be a 2 year-3 year cycle phone.
Secondly, the release time between the SE2 and 12 Mini made the sales disastrous.
Secondly, the release time between the SE2 and 12 Mini made the sales disastrous.
For what it’s worth, I scored an Apple Refurb 13 mini (256GB) for $529 on March 4th @ approx. 8am PST. I’ve had the refurb site bookmarked for months and check it multiple times a day. I was beginning to think Apple would never offer 13 minis…it’s just a matter of being patient I think. There is clearly a small, but dedicated following for the 13 mini (myself included) so I think they just get snatched up really quick. When I checked back 1 hour later, the link was dead.
If a Mini SE will have the same price as the correct SE3, with up to date internals like any SE so far, they will sell it like hot cupcakes.
The biggest problem with the 12/13 mini wasn't the smaller battery or its size, it was the marketing and the price was the same as the larger iPhone versions.
Isn't that whole reason why iPhone SE sell cheaper were because they were reusing existing parts?
Like the iPhone SE 3 still use iPhone 8 screen which was same as iPhone 6, same camera, same outershell etc.
I don't believe Apple will see iPhone SE with mini form factor at current iPhone S3 3 price. The rumored iPhone SE with iPhone 14 body will likely be a price bump, even if iPhone 14 body is pretty much similar to iPhone 12.
I don't know third try with mini size iPhone is worth the time for Apple. No manufacturers right now are making small phones
The prices weren't the same as the larger iPhone versions. The 12 and 13 mini were $100 cheaper (for same storage size) than the regular 12 and 13.
Unfortunately, I don't think there is a big enough market for a small iPhone to be worth the cost to Apple to produce them, plus they probably make more margin on the larger sizes. I presume the market is more or less the same for Android phone producers. I don't think phones will be getting smaller until or unless sales of upcoming phone models will stall due to their ever-increasing size. IMO, phones will keep getting larger until sales start to peak and then decline due to being too big. Maybe the predicted upcoming 6.3" "regular" size, and the 6.9" "pro-max" size will be the peak size before the market reacts. Time will tell. I know 6.3" would be the last straw for me. I currently have a 13 Mini, and will keep it as long as possible. It will probably be replaced 2-3 years from now with an iPhone with a 6.1" screen, which would be tolerable but not desirable (either a then-current "regular" iPhone or the upcoming SE5).
Even if the market ever "peaks" for large phone sizes, I don't see 5.4" phones coming back or even 5.8" phones. I think sizes might retreat back to 6.1" and 6.7" devices.
Even if the market ever "peaks" for large phone sizes, I don't see 5.4" phones coming back or even 5.8" phones. I think sizes might retreat back to 6.1" and 6.7" devices.
Same experience with the SE2. Got the 12 mini in early '21 and have loved it. Was going to replace the battery in it this year but I'm debating picking up a 13 mini if they're ever available again on the refurb store instead. I also got a new SE2 recently that's only used as a WiFi/VoiP phone for work; with all the services disabled I'm getting about 6 days between charges and it works a lot better (no lag when answering, voice quality) than the cheap Android I was previously using for this (though the Android battery lasted about 2 weeks).
It would be highly unusual for prices to be the same for mini and regular. I had used U.S. figures but in other countries I've looked at prices weren't the same either. In Germany, for example, the price of the 12 mini was about €98 less than the regular 12 of same storage sizes. The 13 mini was €100 less than the regular 13 of same storage sizes.
In what country do you say the iPhone 12 and 13 mini were priced the same as the regular 12 and 13?
