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So... CrapWorld 2009
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I Know that people say this after every keynote, but this time it's true! Worst Keynote EVER!
-No iPhone Update (Push?!?!)
-No Online iWork (I laughed so hard when he announced iWork.com and it's best feature is to share docs online)
-Integrated Battery in the 17''
-No new Mac Mini (?!?!?!?!? WTF?!!)
-No Steve (although Schiller wasn't that bad)
-Horrible band playing at the end of the keynote
-Top Songs now 1,29 (come on people, we all know that only old and unpopular songs are priced at ,69)
-No Iphone Nano
-No new iMac
-No Mac Pro
-No Snow Leopard announcement or new infos.
Who is with me?
-No iPhone Update (Push?!?!)
-No Online iWork (I laughed so hard when he announced iWork.com and it's best feature is to share docs online)
-Integrated Battery in the 17''
-No new Mac Mini (?!?!?!?!? WTF?!!)
-No Steve (although Schiller wasn't that bad)
-Horrible band playing at the end of the keynote
-Top Songs now 1,29 (come on people, we all know that only old and unpopular songs are priced at ,69)
-No Iphone Nano
-No new iMac
-No Mac Pro
-No Snow Leopard announcement or new infos.
Who is with me?
at least i was paying attention to it while i was at work.. so i got paid for it.
i think work was actually more exciting.
i think work was actually more exciting.
"NO" lists are so very useless though. In addition to what you mentioned there is
No flying iMac
No iBrew coffee maker with voice activation
No 72" Cinema displays
No $1200 Headless iMac with dual GPUs and OC'd CPU for all the gamers
No holographic Steve
No iLife with virtual soulmate
No super-green Macbook made from tofu, soy milk and run on good karma
No [insert favorite band] playing at the end
No Quantum Mac Pro with teleport capacity and free technician named Scotty...
...and so on.
I watch these events with some interest, but it seems that most people are disappointed every year. I think people get their hopes up and expect Apple to create some incomprehensibly amazing new device every single year. The release of a few good products is deemed a major disappointment.
It's a good thing you guys weren't areound back when the early PPC Performa line was announced. People would be cutting themselves right and left. Out of disappointment. Heck, there wasn't even an iPod in those days!
No flying iMac
No iBrew coffee maker with voice activation
No 72" Cinema displays
No $1200 Headless iMac with dual GPUs and OC'd CPU for all the gamers
No holographic Steve
No iLife with virtual soulmate
No super-green Macbook made from tofu, soy milk and run on good karma
No [insert favorite band] playing at the end
No Quantum Mac Pro with teleport capacity and free technician named Scotty...
...and so on.
I watch these events with some interest, but it seems that most people are disappointed every year. I think people get their hopes up and expect Apple to create some incomprehensibly amazing new device every single year. The release of a few good products is deemed a major disappointment.
It's a good thing you guys weren't areound back when the early PPC Performa line was announced. People would be cutting themselves right and left. Out of disappointment. Heck, there wasn't even an iPod in those days!
Anything over $2.99 would be a rip off!
If anybody is still wondering why Apple needed to stop participating in MacWorld, this thread should explain it. The expectations, and the bitterness and disappointment expressed when every fantasy and desire is not fulfilled on one day January, are becoming steadily more ridiculous. It may take some getting used to, but Apple is going to start behaving a little more like a normal company, and release products when they are ready.
Agreed.
People, especially true in these forums, are ingrates. They expect... demand... that Apple spend millions to put on a show/circus year after year, and everybody expects this or that, expecting RUMORED products that may not even exist at all (not even in napkin-planning-diagrams) in Cupertino.
Apple has no obligation to turn wild rumors into ACTUAL marketable products.
Yup, it's the threads like this one that are the crap, and they breed like rabbits after every Apple product announcement. They're making me wonder what the hell I'm even doing here anymore.
...was that the sound of a soul being crushed a little?
Seriously, I don't know, is it? Over the years I've been hanging out around here, I've seen this forum transition. It used to be a population of Apple enthusiasts interested in discussing what the company was doing and making educated guesses about what they might do in the future. Now it seems to be dominated by spoiled brats making demands and whining when they don't get what they want. Maybe I misremember what it was like before, but I don't think so.
No you remember correctly. There were always irrate posts after macworld and special events but nothing like the past two years or so.
That's what inspired me to write the essay I linked above. Which I notice still has zero responses, while the bitch and moan threads go on and on. Sigh.
I have done my share of whining on this forum, but I agree - when I first started lurking on this board some six years ago, the people here were, as a group, quite different from today's.
There have always been whiners, it just seems that the whiners outnumber the cooler heads these days. It's so very easy to criticize, especially when you are as clueless about answers as anyone (c.f. Rush Limbaugh).
Apple is expected to come up with a new gadget with iPod-sized impact on the market every year. Massive gains are only just normal - anything else is failure. That kind of thinking is what screwed our economy.
There have always been whiners, it just seems that the whiners outnumber the cooler heads these days. It's so very easy to criticize, especially when you are as clueless about answers as anyone (c.f. Rush Limbaugh).
Apple is expected to come up with a new gadget with iPod-sized impact on the market every year. Massive gains are only just normal - anything else is failure. That kind of thinking is what screwed our economy.
I wasn't really disappointed as such. I came home from work, opened my computer, and there it was, rolling along (I got in, just before the stream was hacked).
I hadn't set my hopes up high, but I was looking for something that would give me hope. I was hoping for a little clue as to them not nixing firewire or going Texas Instrument in the chipset, but I was expecting what happened: Further alienation of the pro segment: All iTunes tie-ins, and catering to the iPod Crowd-only.
All in all, it was exactly as expected. Except for the annoying hacking of the stream, of course.
I hadn't set my hopes up high, but I was looking for something that would give me hope. I was hoping for a little clue as to them not nixing firewire or going Texas Instrument in the chipset, but I was expecting what happened: Further alienation of the pro segment: All iTunes tie-ins, and catering to the iPod Crowd-only.
All in all, it was exactly as expected. Except for the annoying hacking of the stream, of course.
Do you want to know the worst thing about this? (Of course you do.)
For years and years we dedicated Apple fans endured not only endless ridicule, but the standards of performance established by the pundit class. Anything less than a home run from Apple every time they came to the plate would be graded a failure. It was such a double-standard. Apple had to perform brilliantly at each and every opportunity, while Microsoft could stumble around like a drunken sailor and still be received with breathless raves.
So now Apple hits home runs all the time, and Microsoft still stumbles around like a drunk, but where does all the ennui come from now? Apple customers. Some of these people, if they haven't been thrilled today, right now, this very second, then they proclaim themselves disappointed, bored, even angry. They are jaded beyond belief. What's really sad is that they are only proving what the pundits have always said about Apple -- that they can't win for losing. So maybe that's really been true all along.
For years and years we dedicated Apple fans endured not only endless ridicule, but the standards of performance established by the pundit class. Anything less than a home run from Apple every time they came to the plate would be graded a failure. It was such a double-standard. Apple had to perform brilliantly at each and every opportunity, while Microsoft could stumble around like a drunken sailor and still be received with breathless raves.
So now Apple hits home runs all the time, and Microsoft still stumbles around like a drunk, but where does all the ennui come from now? Apple customers. Some of these people, if they haven't been thrilled today, right now, this very second, then they proclaim themselves disappointed, bored, even angry. They are jaded beyond belief. What's really sad is that they are only proving what the pundits have always said about Apple -- that they can't win for losing. So maybe that's really been true all along.
Actually, although quite a lot of that is true to some extent, you often throw anything bad siad about Apple into the same category. There are valid and invalid complaints (as with everything else, including Microsoft and every other corporation and/or products). The complaints from pros who feel abandoned and have to look elsewhere and having to completely abandon the platform to get their job done is one of the more valid complaints.
However, complaints about how disappointed people are that Apple didn't come out with a Tablet-Mac, an iPhone Nano, and what have you of wishful thinking, isn't really what one should consider valid complaints.
You seem to toss the former into the same category as the latter.
Anyway, as mentioned, I was nowhere near being disappointed. It was exactly as I expected.
Apple fans have always been the company's sternest critics. I was a member of Evangelist and one of the founders of its follow-on, MacMarines (assuming anybody remembers either). Part of the mission of these groups (especially the latter) was to be heard by Apple. Lots of criticism could be found there, but realistic criticism of a company that had big problems, not petty griping about a company that was doing extremely well. The expectations are so completely overblown now and the criticism so petty, that I am being reminded uncomfortably of the days when the media picked apart everything Apple did or did not do for signs that they had failed.
...so you thought yesterday's product announcements were okay?
I thought they sucked.
They were fine. Two of the announced products I will be buying. Apple doesn't have to rock my world on any given day.
As Apple, and MR, get more popular it's only natural that the signal-to-noise ratio starts to head south (IIRC when I joined MR there were 20k members a now there are over 250k). Also, many people who've gotten into Apple the past few years did so because of a very popular product so they expect (unrealistically) Apple to always hit home runs because the only Apple they know is the home run hitting Apple. They weren't around for the stagnation of the G4. They didn't get to experience the peeling TiBooks. They probably aren't even familiar w/the term Apple Death Knell.
It is what it is which is why I largely ignore the threads I find ridiculous. Bitching about the bitchers is as pointless as what the bitchers are bitching about to begin with.
Lethal
It is what it is which is why I largely ignore the threads I find ridiculous. Bitching about the bitchers is as pointless as what the bitchers are bitching about to begin with.
Lethal
