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So I got the GTX 980 "Mac Edition" from MacVidCard

stevedusa said:
Now I had the 980 in the upper slot, close to the drive bays. I was told to do that with the 680 so I'd assume I should do the same with the 980.

Am I in the wrong slot? Should I move it to the lower slot?
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On a 5,1 Mac Pro all four slots are PCIe 2.0, but the two top slots (3 & 4) are only 4 lane slots, while the two bottom slots (1 & 2) are 16 lane slots. Slot one is also a double wide slot, to accommodate double wide GPU Cards. I can't think of any reason to run a video card in any slot except slot one.

Lou
 
flowrider said:
On a 5,1 Mac Pro all four slots are PCIe 2.0, but the two top slots (3 & 4) are only 4 lane slots, while the two bottom slots (1 & 2) are 16 lane slots. Slot one is also a double wide slot, to accommodate double wide GPU Cards. I can't think of any reason to run a video card in any slot except slot one.

Lou
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I'll swap it out tonight.

Thanks!
 
stevedusa said:
Now I had the 980 in the upper slot, close to the drive bays. I was told to do that with the 680 so I'd assume I should do the same with the 980.

Am I in the wrong slot? Should I move it to the lower slot?

Somehow it's a bit louder than my 680 under load lol...
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The top two slots share the same X4 lanes. It's not ideal for graphics especially when you paid over $800 dollars (when you can get a super clocked 980 for $550) then you want to be as efficient as possible to get your value back.
 
apphotography said:
The top two slots share the same X4 lanes. It's not ideal for graphics especially when you paid over $800 dollars (when you can get a super clocked 980 for $550) then you want to be as efficient as possible to get your value back.
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Will swap tonight, thanks.
 
brand said:
Nothing like a nice jab to the ribs.
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Regardless if I am against modding because I think companies should do this, if MVC had a donate button and Adsense on his site next to instructions, downloads and a regular blog he would be rolling in money and all these arguments about ROMs with people on eBay wouldn't exist. I can't understand the business model of a very expensive ROM that has no practical improvement to performance and the stress that comes with the petty fighting.
 
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apphotography said:
If you really believe that's the way to make Apple listen go buy a PC if you really want to make a point with "your wallet". Hacks won't achieve any change.

You have to go direct if you want your demands to be heard. In fact yesterday I read someone has lobbied with EVGA's marketing team about official Mac edition GTX 980 and there is progress there.
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You really don't understand how Apple works. They don't make products because people demand them, they make what they want to make and create the demand. Apple's solution for people that are unhappy with the ATI Radeon HD 5870 from 2010 (as the highest Apple-supplied video card that you can fit in a tower-based Mac Pro), is to sell them the cylinder or to steer them toward either a 27" iMac or a 27" iMac with 5K Retina.

People switching from tower-based Mac Pros to PCs will not get Apple to change their graphics offerings on the cylinder, nor will it prompt them to further partner up with AMD or NVIDIA to make better aftermarket solutions for the 2010/2012 Mac Pros. If you want something relatively modern powering your graphics in those machines, doing this ROM hacking or buying a card from someone who has is the only option. Period. This won't change.
 
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scottsjack said:
You're exactly right. The reason I just bought a used 2012 MP 3.2 quad and am upgrading the CPU, storage and RAM is that I see nothing coming in the future from Apple that I would rather have. All three Macs I purchased in 2014 were 2012 models, one used, two new.
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same here. 2 2012 MBPs and currently thinking about a macpro 5.1.

this new disposable crap can kiss my arse retina or not :D

have to make the most of this setups before having to jump ship. that's sad.

cheers
 
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Yebubbleman said:
If you want something relatively modern powering your graphics in those machines, doing this ROM hacking or buying a card from someone who has is the only option. Period. This won't change.
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You just said something that isn't true as I didn't need hacks for a perfectly functional graphics card. I had enough. There are people dying in the world of hunger and this forum gets aggressive and attack each other about 'firmware'. I'll finish off my benchmarks and then stick to the photography forum where the people are friendly and really like to bring the best out of each other.:cool:
 
apphotography said:
$835 just to get a boot screen and a 2.0 that has no real practical improvement is too much. You can get a super clocked version for $550. I know these ROM hacks take a lot of work and deserve respect but if you support hacks like this and TRIM enabler and other kinds of software patches, you are just telling companies like Apple/Nvidia/etc that you don't care about official solutions. Then they won't devote any manpower to the drivers or Mac editions. You will only have yourselves to blame if you do things like that.
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LOL youre just mad that you cant afford one
 
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GREAT NEWS !!! Our EFI solves Web Driver problem !!!

Zorn said:
Out of curiosity, does this ROM enable the card to at least get you into OS X without the nvidia web driver installed? One annoyance for me is if somehow this driver gets accidentally disabled (usually with an OS X update), I have to physically switch graphics cards to turn it back on, then put my 980 back in.
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With an unflashed 980 you have to remove the card with every OS and Web Driver update before it will work again.

As I just verified, our EFI card will allow basic screen function on one display, letting you install and choose web driver. This is currently impossible without EFI on 980.

So for the CP shills, there is a "functional improvement".

This is actually a pretty big benefit.

And for sake of clarity, vast majority of the 10 initial shipping units are the ACX Dual fan version. Only 2 people got Reference cards. They both have separate advantages. Reference exhausts heat outside case, so you don't double handle the heat. On the other hand, the ACX cards do an amazing thing, for most desktop use THE FAN REMAINS OFF. In fact, I can start the Uningine Valley Extreme HD benchmark and the fans remain motionless for upwards of 60 seconds. The old Fermi cards (470/570/480/580) would have already shut the computer down due to overheating, the Maxwell card is that much more efficient.

So the ACX cards can be quiet at idle and standard web surfing. Keep in mind that this magic means that the MP PCIE fan is doing the work, so it may go slightly higher. But watching the ACX fans sitting still while rendering Valley is magical.

Very proud of our work, and thanks again to Nvidia for continuing to support us Mac users.
 
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MacVidCards said:
With an unflashed 980 you have to remove the card with every OS and Web Driver update before it will work again.

As I just verified, our EFI card will allow basic screen function on one display, letting you install and choose web driver. This is currently impossible without EFI on 980.

So for the CP shills, there is a "functional improvement".

This is actually a pretty big benefit.

And for sake of clarity, vast majority of the 10 initial shipping units are the ACX Dual fan version. Only 2 people got Reference cards. They both have separate advantages. Reference exhausts heat outside case, so you don't double handle the heat. On the other hand, the ACX cards do an amazing thing, for most desktop use THE FAN REMAINS OFF. In fact, I can start the Uningine Valley Extreme HD benchmark and the fans remain motionless for upwards of 60 seconds. The old Fermi cards (470/570/480/580) would have already shut the computer down due to overheating, the Maxwell card is that much more efficient.

So the ACX cards can be quiet at idle and standard web surfing. Keep in mind that this magic means that the MP PCIE fan is doing the work, so it may go slightly higher. But watching the ACX fans sitting still while rendering Valley is magical.

Very proud of our work, and thanks again to Nvidia for continuing to support us Mac users.
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This is great news MVC, I've got to clear out some Christmas debt. from my CC's first, but I'll be lining up for one of these. Excellent work!
 
apphotography said:
Regardless if I am against modding because I think companies should do this,
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We all know your position, and you're certainly in the minority here. I can count on one finger the members who agree with your feelings. For a person with a MODED 4,1 to 5,1 Mac Pro, your comments seem to fly in the face of your actions. You seem to be trolling. I, and I hope others, will ignore your future posts as I have not found merit in any of them.

Lou
 
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apphotography said:
You just said something that isn't true as I didn't need hacks for a perfectly functional graphics card. I had enough. There are people dying in the world of hunger and this forum gets aggressive and attack each other about 'firmware'. I'll finish off my benchmarks and then stick to the photography forum where the people are friendly and really like to bring the best out of each other.:cool:
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I'm pretty sure I used the word "Modern" and not "Functional".

Also, I'm pretty sure that, just about everywhere on the Internet, if you say something that is either wrong or preposterous, people are going to call you out on it.
 
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MacVidCards said:
With an unflashed 980 you have to remove the card with every OS and Web Driver update before it will work again.

As I just verified, our EFI card will allow basic screen function on one display, letting you install and choose web driver. This is currently impossible without EFI on 980.

So for the CP shills, there is a "functional improvement".

This is actually a pretty big benefit.

And for sake of clarity, vast majority of the 10 initial shipping units are the ACX Dual fan version. Only 2 people got Reference cards. They both have separate advantages. Reference exhausts heat outside case, so you don't double handle the heat. On the other hand, the ACX cards do an amazing thing, for most desktop use THE FAN REMAINS OFF. In fact, I can start the Uningine Valley Extreme HD benchmark and the fans remain motionless for upwards of 60 seconds. The old Fermi cards (470/570/480/580) would have already shut the computer down due to overheating, the Maxwell card is that much more efficient.

So the ACX cards can be quiet at idle and standard web surfing. Keep in mind that this magic means that the MP PCIE fan is doing the work, so it may go slightly higher. But watching the ACX fans sitting still while rendering Valley is magical.

Very proud of our work, and thanks again to Nvidia for continuing to support us Mac users.
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I am so glad MacVidcards continues to work hard. If it wasn't for him I already would've ditched My 5.1 Mac Pro. Thank you.
In any case, will clients be able to choose which cooler design they want once sales resume? I much prefer the reference design. Also any ideas when flashing services will be available? if it is going to be a while I may just buy a GTX 980 now and use it until the service is available. Thank you and keep up the good work.
 
MacVidCards said:
With an unflashed 980 you have to remove the card with every OS and Web Driver update before it will work again.

As I just verified, our EFI card will allow basic screen function on one display, letting you install and choose web driver. This is currently impossible without EFI on 980.

So for the CP shills, there is a "functional improvement".

This is actually a pretty big benefit.

And for sake of clarity, vast majority of the 10 initial shipping units are the ACX Dual fan version. Only 2 people got Reference cards. They both have separate advantages. Reference exhausts heat outside case, so you don't double handle the heat. On the other hand, the ACX cards do an amazing thing, for most desktop use THE FAN REMAINS OFF. In fact, I can start the Uningine Valley Extreme HD benchmark and the fans remain motionless for upwards of 60 seconds. The old Fermi cards (470/570/480/580) would have already shut the computer down due to overheating, the Maxwell card is that much more efficient.

So the ACX cards can be quiet at idle and standard web surfing. Keep in mind that this magic means that the MP PCIE fan is doing the work, so it may go slightly higher. But watching the ACX fans sitting still while rendering Valley is magical.

Very proud of our work, and thanks again to Nvidia for continuing to support us Mac users.
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This is great, thanks for clearing this up. Definitely makes me more interested! Any idea on what the cost will be for flashing service only? I have the EVGA ACX version, not super clocked.
 
Last night I have moved the card to slot 1 on my 5,1MP. Everything works just fine. Performance is great compare to the 680.

So far I've tested intensively on the Bootcamp side. Few benchmarks, games, this, that.

On the OS X side... well I am trying to get CUDA working. I'm stilling trying to perform the pointer netkas provided but I'm sure I'm confused about it. So any help would be great.

Oh yes, no nVidia driver with a fresh OS? No problem. It'll work just fine thanks to the EFI.
 
b0fh666 said:
new CUDA seems to be available (6.5.36) see if it helps you.
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I am on the latest one since it doesn't nag about "update required" anymore.

However it seems I can't use CUDA playback in Premiere CC... Not sure why. The 680 was able to with the previous version of CUDA.

netkas pointed me out how to but ... not sure how to do that.
 
stevedusa said:
I am on the latest one since it doesn't nag about "update required" anymore.

However it seems I can't use CUDA playback in Premiere CC... Not sure why. The 680 was able to with the previous version of CUDA.

netkas pointed me out how to but ... not sure how to do that.
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CONGRATS on your new GTX980 and thanks for sharing. :)

@MacVidcards. Awesome good work on the GTX980 and thanks for all the help. :)
 
MacVidCards said:
With an unflashed 980 you have to remove the card with every OS and Web Driver update before it will work again.

As I just verified, our EFI card will allow basic screen function on one display, letting you install and choose web driver. This is currently impossible without EFI on 980.

So for the CP shills, there is a "functional improvement".

This is actually a pretty big benefit.

And for sake of clarity, vast majority of the 10 initial shipping units are the ACX Dual fan version. Only 2 people got Reference cards. They both have separate advantages. Reference exhausts heat outside case, so you don't double handle the heat. On the other hand, the ACX cards do an amazing thing, for most desktop use THE FAN REMAINS OFF. In fact, I can start the Uningine Valley Extreme HD benchmark and the fans remain motionless for upwards of 60 seconds. The old Fermi cards (470/570/480/580) would have already shut the computer down due to overheating, the Maxwell card is that much more efficient.

So the ACX cards can be quiet at idle and standard web surfing. Keep in mind that this magic means that the MP PCIE fan is doing the work, so it may go slightly higher. But watching the ACX fans sitting still while rendering Valley is magical.

Very proud of our work, and thanks again to Nvidia for continuing to support us Mac users.
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Hey MVC, are you ever going to have 970's (again?), don't think I need a 980, but I would like the energy saving aspects of this series.
 
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