So the MBP C2D grainy LCD will be fixed with a BIOS update right?

[iW00t]

Has every 15 inch Macbook Pro got a grainy screen or is just luck of the draw?

Go for glossy, I think that's the magic.

 

[weckart]

It's seems the first poster mis-spoke and everyone is feeding off of that. One thing that is true is that the granniness issue doesn't seem to be due to the EFI/BIOS.

What has been proven by ASUS in co-operation with Intel and I assume ATI as well, is that the granniness issue is caused by the Video BIOS. While MBPs don't have a BIOS I'm pretty sure they do have a Video BIOS. ASUS has released new BIOSes for their X1600 models and they seemed to have fixed the issue.

I'm not sure whether the MBP granniness issue is the same as the above, but I'm pretty sure that they are at least related. I'm of the opinion that the inherent cause is the Video BIOS and different screens exaggerate the granniness to different extents combined with some people being more observant than others.

Anyways, here's to crossing my fingers that Steve Jobs is going to stand up on the stage in his keynote and open with "The granniness issue has been fixed!".

I am pretty sure that this was covered in one of the interminable threads relating to graininess here and on other forums. What ASUS et al were experiencing on their laptops was a different problem from that caused by the cheap screens on the MBPs. With ASUS the problem seemed to be pixel drop outs - displaying wrong colours when dragging windows - that sort of thing. I think there were even screenshots posted. A video bios fix seemed to do the trick.

Apple's computers use modified firmware, in any case (otherwise, you could just slot in a generic X1900 card in your MacPro), so you should not expect the same problems affecting other PCs to be replicated on Macs, unless it is a pure hardware problem not fixable by firmware updates.

FWIW, I have seen the same anti-glare excess on a Samsung ultraportable at PC World. It looked awful - even worse than the MBP. I did not check the video chip, but it was certain to be one of the integrated types and not the X1600.

 

[TheSpaz]

I believe everyone is looking for this thread:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/251352/

By the way, I was the one who started this whole thing about the graininess issue, although I didn't start the thread. (I started threads at MacNN and Apple Discussions and someone else decided to post here after).

It's not a software fix. The ATI issue was clearly not the same problem as I've seen photos of computers that suffer from the ATI dithering problem. Apple just chooses to use screens with a lot of anti-glare coating. If you look at the 24" iMac, it almost looks a bit shiny even though the screen is matte. I believe the 24" iMac has less anti-glare thus looking smoother. However, the 17" iMac and 20" iMac have the grain and so do all the Apple Cinema Displays.

Here are the computers that I've seen without grain:
MacBook (Black and White)
iMac 24" Only
MacBook Pro 17" Only

 

[theprizefight]

has anyone seen a very recent MBP (i'm talking about within the past week or two)? Any differences between the older ones? Has Apple begun doing anything to address the issue yet?

 

[iW00t]

has anyone seen a very recent MBP (i'm talking about within the past week or two)? Any differences between the older ones? Has Apple begun doing anything to address the issue yet?

There has been some talk about the 9C57 screens being very grain-free.

 

[RSXer]

I was this close ( || ) to buying a MBP 15" (glossy) today.

iWOOT you seem to be very knowledgeable regarding LCD displays .

Now I am reading all this stuff about a grainy screen etc. Has this already been fixed. I have read that they stopped production sometime in december to fix this issue. Are the 9C57 displays in the new MBP? Does this ONLY effect the matte displays and not the glossy because I am interested only in the glossy. Thanks in advance

I believe everyone is looking for this thread:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/251352/

By the way, I was the one who started this whole thing about the graininess issue, although I didn't start the thread. (I started threads at MacNN and Apple Discussions and someone else decided to post here after).

It's not a software fix. The ATI issue was clearly not the same problem as I've seen photos of computers that suffer from the ATI dithering problem. Apple just chooses to use screens with a lot of anti-glare coating. If you look at the 24" iMac, it almost looks a bit shiny even though the screen is matte. I believe the 24" iMac has less anti-glare thus looking smoother. However, the 17" iMac and 20" iMac have the grain and so do all the Apple Cinema Displays.

Here are the computers that I've seen without grain:
MacBook (Black and White)
iMac 24" Only
MacBook Pro 17" Only

what about the glossy 15" MBP?