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The reason for the delay is a complete internal restructuring and inclusion of SSD that allows even smaller form factors.
 
The reason for the delay is a complete internal restructuring and inclusion of SSD that allows even smaller form factors.

I like to think the mac mini and the mac pro are going to merge.

5 models to pick from a 600 usd 800 usd 1200 usd 1800 usd 2700 usd price point.

If I had a hope/and or wish that would be it.

Of course this is not going to happen but I can dream.
 
The reason for the delay is a complete internal restructuring and inclusion of SSD that allows even smaller form factors.

I think you could be right. No reason not to release only a spec bump so SSD looks very likely.
 
The reason for the delay is a complete internal restructuring and inclusion of SSD that allows even smaller form factors.

That would be absolutely awesome! Especially since the internal design is really bad since they pulled the optical drive out - it's simply not very space efficient.

However, I'm afraid they simply want to release it together with the iMac, and only the latter gets a redesign of some kind ...
 
Been waiting since May, sold my mini before I went on holiday expecting a refresh.

Been using a sony vaio in the interim, but I miss the productivity I get from OSX and my ACD27 is sitting there gathering dust.

Might bite the bullet and buy a MBA ultimate this weekend, and get the refreshed mini down the line. Part of me wanted a MPBr, but I think the mac mini + MBA combo runs nearly the same price for 1.
 
I really love the optical drive in the early Mac minis. It's perfect for watching DVDs. Just lets hope the new design will fit to the optical drive sold separately design-wise and size-wise. All the waiting certainly makes sense. It took a while before the redesigned unibody Mac mini came out. Everybody rumored the Mac mini will be discontinued at that time... Reading the threads here I think we see the same situation arise. Just lets hope we see the update this year and it will be a great one.
 
I like to think the mac mini and the mac pro are going to merge.

5 models to pick from a 600 usd 800 usd 1200 usd 1800 usd 2700 usd price point.

If I had a hope/and or wish that would be it.

Of course this is not going to happen but I can dream.

I dunno if its that far fetched. As it stands now people are starting to buy server mini units as pro upgrades. Based on apples minimal footprint approach I would venture to guess they would much rather have the size of the mini. Its getting pretty close to a reality in my opinion.
 
I like to think the mac mini and the mac pro are going to merge.
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Of course this is not going to happen but I can dream.

I dunno if its that far fetched.

It's not far fetched at all. I believe there will be a kind of Super-mini and I don't like it at all(speaking as a professional, otherwise I would appreciate it). There is going to be more glue than screws inside..it's sad but clearly where apple is directing towards..and it makes sense businesswise for them. I don't think the 'classic' MBP is going to stay for much longer than a year as well.
 
It's not far fetched at all. I believe there will be a kind of Super-mini and I don't like it at all(speaking as a professional, otherwise I would appreciate it). There is going to be more glue than screws inside..it's sad but clearly where apple is directing towards..and it makes sense businesswise for them. I don't think the 'classic' MBP is going to stay for much longer than a year as well.

It's rather ironic that Jonny Ive said that innovation is what drives the company and not money.
 
It's rather ironic that Jonny Ive said that innovation is what drives the company and not money.

Yes, but actually it both seems to fit together perfectly. Smaller and slimmer and it generates more revenues (ppl will outmax the system to make it 'futureproof') in a shorter amount of time, because people can't upgrade themselves. And the vast majority even appreciate that. Pure genius!
 
The reason for the delay is a complete internal restructuring and inclusion of SSD that allows even smaller form factors.

VERY VERY VERY sadly (3 verys) I think you may be right.

We really don't need the Mini to be any smaller do we. How many people on here do you find saying "I love my Mac Mini, but I wish it was a bit smaller". To make it even smaller, and even less upgradeable in the process, would be utter madness. Yet this ridiculous delay points to that being what's happening.

A new logic board with Ivybridge CPU & chipset - and keeping all other components (Case, connectors, fan, PSU) the same - could have been brought to market months ago. It would have taken weeks to design and build. Not months and years. It would have brought much needed USB3 and better graphics to a market keen to buy these features.

But it's not here. You have to ask why is it not here. And one very strong contender for the answer is that Apple are not doing a quick-and-dirty upgrade, they are planning a complete re-design. One, that in my view will make the Mini less desirable, not more so.
 
I doubt that Apple is redesigning the Mac Mini. I think that the Mini is a low-priority product compared to portable Macs, which are the mega-sellers in the Mac lineup.

We will just have to be patient. I expect the Mini to be upgraded after the iMac but prior to new Mac Pros being introduced.
 
I sure hope it doesn't end up being something that has all kinds of glued and soddered components in it. I can see that happening as they did some of that with the MBA, but were that to happen, you'd see a huge surge back to the 2011 model with people decking them out as much as possible.

Here's my hope: they do away with the "mini" and "pro" and now there is just some kind of "Mac Desktop". You'd have your basic models, but the entire theory is using TB to expand functionality from video to massive amounts of memory to storage, etc.

It's probably a pipe dream, but they've hinted at something unorthodox being released and that's a total change from how we approach computing now and frankly it would be pretty awesome :p
 
I sure hope it doesn't end up being something that has all kinds of glued and soddered components in it. I can see that happening as they did some of that with the MBA, but were that to happen, you'd see a huge surge back to the 2011 model with people decking them out as much as possible.

Here's my hope: they do away with the "mini" and "pro" and now there is just some kind of "Mac Desktop". You'd have your basic models, but the entire theory is using TB to expand functionality from video to massive amounts of memory to storage, etc.

It's probably a pipe dream, but they've hinted at something unorthodox being released and that's a total change from how we approach computing now and frankly it would be pretty awesome :p

No, that would never work. People love mini for a reason. Its size is good for tight spaces and office type areas with little space like cubicles.

And Pro is good for designers and heavy graphic people. People who need more power and flexibility to upgrade.

So combining it would not be a good idea.
 
People who need more power and flexibility to upgrade.

Pro users don't upgrade more than Mini users. Most pro's are sold second hand just like they were bought. Only upgrades done are adding a HD or adding some RAM.
If Apple would come with a ivy bridge quad core Mini, with SSD+3,5 inch HDD bay, with a decent 1Gb GPU from the best iMac, in a double-height form factor, the pro sales will go down 99% and all will buy Mini's. The last 1% is that apenut that did not went PC yet to render his Cinema 4D files.
 
No, that would never work. People love mini for a reason. Its size is good for tight spaces and office type areas with little space like cubicles.

And Pro is good for designers and heavy graphic people. People who need more power and flexibility to upgrade.

So combining it would not be a good idea.

I respectfully disagree for 2 reasons.

The first is that everyone I know who has a mini (and doesn't use it as a HTPC) has the room but likes the quiet small footprint. I have tons of room but I hate loud fans and large towers full of heat, fans and light.

The second is wouldn't making expandable components match and even exceed the flexiblity of a Mac pro box? I mean, you could potentially even add processor cores.

Again it's just my hope :)
 
I respectfully disagree for 2 reasons.

The first is that everyone I know who has a mini (and doesn't use it as a HTPC) has the room but likes the quiet small footprint. I have tons of room but I hate loud fans and large towers full of heat, fans and light.

The second is wouldn't making expandable components match and even exceed the flexiblity of a Mac pro box? I mean, you could potentially even add processor cores.

Again it's just my hope :)

Not that I know any better than you do, but I don't see Apple offering a modular system at all. And even if that would be technically possible and 3rd parties provide..that would end up just like a mess. The MacPro is by far the most modular system available and we see how Apple treats it.

And I am sure that a MacPro is much, much more quiet than any mini out there..under load of course.
 
Mac mini uses a chipset designed for mobile use and thus quietness, (minimal) size and low power consumption. It was so since the beginning. The Mac mini server uses the same mobile chipset, but is designed for low idle power and fast response under loads - ideal for a small office server. The Mac mini sees better sales than an iMac but has lower profit margin.

The Mac Pro uses a server chipset and is designed for maximum speed and throughput. It isn't a big seller. It's naturally expensive because it uses very specific components. I'm pretty sure that we see an update next year. Design-wise it will take another direction.
 
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