Yep. And some of us are just technology lovers and don't care who did something first.
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Yep. And some of us are just technology lovers and don't care who did something first.
I'm still trying to figure out why it matters.
If the device that you have meets your needs with it's various features...I can't imagine why anyone should care who "invented" it.
I love this line of thinking.
When Apple comes out with a similar feature, Android cultists never shut up about it on Google+ but when Google comes out with a feature similar to Apple, they're all like "oh, does it really matter? Who cares".
I love this line of thinking.
When Apple comes out with a similar feature, Android cultists never shut up about it on Google+ but when Google comes out with a feature similar to Apple, they're all like "oh, does it really matter? Who cares".
I love when this happens vice versa too
I'm indifferent about the look of 4.4. The Hangouts and Chrome icons look the same as on my existing phone.
The issue isn't so much about copying itself (at least not anymore). The issue is the double-standard.
It's true the double-standard has begun to happen on both sides, but it's largely and far more fervently practiced by one particular side. Not to mention, it really started with Apple in the first place. Wasn't Steve Jobs famous for saying everything about Android is stolen? It's the Apple-side that started the crazy litigations, too, or at least brought it to the forefront of both tech and general news. And then the fans follow suit.
Really, only recently (past year or so) has fans of Samsung and other competitors begun to accuse Apple of copying. And they'd be right.
I know what I'm saying amounts to basically a "he started it first" argument. But that's precisely what I mean to say.
Having said that, it'd be nice if everyone just gave up the whole copying thing. I've always said before, if anything, I wish they'd copy each other more! I'd love to see LG's knock to wake/sleep feature in other handsets. I'd love to see Apple take more inspiration from Android's flexibility, notifications, etc. And so forth.
It's true the double-standard has begun to happen on both sides, but it's largely and far more fervently practiced by one particular side. Not to mention, it really started with Apple in the first place. Wasn't Steve Jobs famous for saying everything about Android is stolen? It's the Apple-side that started the crazy litigations, too, or at least brought it to the forefront of both tech and general news. And then the fans follow suit.
Really, only recently (past year or so) has fans of Samsung and other competitors begun to accuse Apple of copying. And they'd be right.
I know what I'm saying amounts to basically a "he started it first" argument. But that's precisely what I mean to say.
Having said that, it'd be nice if everyone just gave up the whole copying thing. I've always said before, if anything, I wish they'd copy each other more! I'd love to see LG's knock to wake/sleep feature in other handsets. I'd love to see Apple take more inspiration from Android's flexibility, notifications, etc. And so forth.
at this point who really cares?
if you like what you are using then enjoying it. doesn't matter what people think.
if you like what you are using then enjoying it. doesn't matter what people think.
What was annoying was not so much whether or not it was "fine" for Android to copy Apple, but the people trying to insist that no such, shall we say, "inspiration" had taken place.
There certainly seem to be Google/Android influences in the new visual design - but there are also clear influences from the sparse design of Apple's packaging and advertising. It's also clearly a kickback against the whole green baize, woodgrain and faux leather fiasco.
The main bit of Android 'inspiration' is not the design so much as the functionality of the 'control center' which is pretty clearly inspired by the pull-down control panel on Android (or is it just Samsung?)
So, apparently, Steve Jobs holds a grudge for a really, REALLY long time! Going back to when he gave Microsoft the benefit of the doubt with regard to early versions of Windows, and Gates stabbed him in the back on that. Jobs learned that lesson SO well (protect your IP at all costs), that he went thermonuclear on Samsung and Google to protect every trivial trademark or copyright with regard to iPhone and iOS.
I can see this little fact had no effect on the hate-fest. Who cares if they were fake.... hate on!
Michael
You whine about double standards and the perpetuation of this argument... and then you say nonsense like the above. Stop acting like one side is guiltier than the other and MAYBE this foolishness will stop some day. I'm sure one side started it, but that's irrelevant now. It has become a tit-for-tat battle that is ruining the enjoyment of being into mobile tech. You act like you're not contributing, but anyone who reads this forum with any regularity knows how evangelically pro-Android (and anti-iOS) you are.
...And nobody cared about that quote until Android came into its own, by doing exactly what Steve was talking about. Thank you for proving my point, though. Android people hold that quote over Apple's head like a scarlet letter, and the war will rage on until they learn to let it go. Steve could be a real jerk. Steve sometimes said inflammatory things. Steve is gone. Get over it.
I don't know how anyone can pretend it's not horribly uneven. I'm not the one creating threads about it. I'm merely responding and appropriately by pointing out the double standard.
Regarding your second point, no one is holding what Jobs said over people's head more than the certain Apple fans that really believe it and continue to reiterate it. I'm merely bringing it up to say that it all started with Apple. This whole "copying" thing was really brought to the forefront cause of Apple. There's no shoo-ing this away.
I love this line of thinking.
When Apple comes out with a similar feature, Android cultists never shut up about it on Google+ but when Google comes out with a feature similar to Apple, they're all like "oh, does it really matter? Who cares".
The problem is - your line of thinking isn't the same as the spirit of the OP.
The point is - who cares. Not who does what and says what or thinks what. Use the OS and Phone that is best for you. End of story.
It's horribly uneven....on a Mac forum site.
In the rest of the world? Not so much.
In the rest of the internet, even? Nah.
Picking THAT, of all things, to peeve about? Just make sure you never go to an XBox, PS3, Android, Crackberry, etc, fan/forum site. Your brain will explode from the hypocrisy and lack of objectivity.
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It's definitely beginning to change. I notice people are less and less enamored by Apple.
Why is that important to you? To make sure that people are less enamored by Apple?
When people's irrational love for Apple is something you peeve over (but no other tech company), there's more there than just correcting irrational behavior.
Uneven on an Apple-based site? No way!
It's bizarre how obsessed you are over the 'double standards' here. It's a site dedicated to Apple products, people here are going to like and prefer Apple products, surprise!
It'd be like showing up at a PS3 forum and spending all your time in the 'Other consoles' section getting all stroppy over people there preferring Sony's products and not being enamoured by all the 'innovative, amazing' things Microsoft and Nintendo products have, or do.
I was hoping you'd had some time to think about your reply to my question.
The answer intrigues me.