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Blind tests show there is no difference and if anything, the competitors come out ahead. One example:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/head-head-apple-homepod-really-sound-best-160346138.html



HomePod's mission was never to outperform Alexa. It is a music-centric speaker through and through. It is much more handicapped when it comes to voice assistance and smart features, but it's sound can't be beat by most competitors.
I (and a lot of other owners) am perfectly happy with my HomePods and use them daily - I knew what I was getting myself into and I never expected it to do things I wouldn't need it for. I also have Alexa devices and they come with their drawbacks. Bottom line is I use both and expectations are met.
HomePod can only improve and it's as simple as software updates. That is not a priority for Apple at the moment and they got bigger fish to fry.
 
That’s a feature, not a bug.

What people are failing to see in this deal is that both Apple and Amazon are coming out winners. The loser here is Spotify and that’s a deliberately calculated move by Apple.

This is a complex strategy so it won’t make sense if you’re looking at it two dimensionally. You need to look (far) ahead, not just at the current situation.

Here are the points that will help understand that strategy:

1. Amazon will never win in the smartphone market. Apple and Google are too entrenched. Amazon is not a threat to Apple’s revenue generation.

2. Amazon Echo is a product whose only purpose is Alexa. Meanwhile, Apple will continue to sell iPhones regardless of how far behind Siri is from Alexa. They’re not competing with each other.

3. HomePod isn’t trying to be an Amazon Echo competitor. It’s playing for an audience who appreciates excellent audio quality and who subscribes to Apple Music. Those people will not buy an Amazon Echo for the purpose of listening to music.

4. By putting Apple Music on Amazon Echo, Spotify is no longer the default music streaming service with a de facto exclusive on Alexa devices. Echo users can now subscribe to or retain their Apple Music subscriptions while using it on the established home assistant. Apple builds a subscriber base, further eating into Spotify, Apple’s real competitor.

5. Now, which speaker do Apple Music subscribers buy if they want excellent sound? I’ll refer you back to point 3. Amazon Echo and HomePod aren’t competitors: they’re complementary to one another. People who buy an Echo for Alexa can also purchase a HomePod for Apple Music sound quality.

6. Siri plays no role here — for now. Apple is clearly investing heavily in AI and in Siri itself given its high profile hires and how it’s reorganized its executive structure. Apple doesn’t have to beat Alexa in a sprint. Voice assistant tech is going to be a long marathon. They’de still years away from being the natural language assistants we envision in sci-fi.

7. iPhones will continue to sell with or without Siri matching Alexa’s popularity. People don’t buy them for Siri. Elsewhere, Apple is working on conquering the next generation of personal computers: wearables. AppleWatch is so ahead of the competition that it’s pretty much the only player, very much how iPod lead the field for its entire existence.

8. With iPhone, Apple Watch and HomePod selling for reasons unrelated to Siri’s ability to outsmart Alexa, what they all share is that they do have Siri and once the advanced Siri that Apple is so clearly developing is ready for prime time, all of those devices will instantly become Siri devices with a much bigger installed base than Alexa.

Check mate.

2. Not entirely. If it was solely a speaker it would be as big of flop as the Fire Phone. But it’s also marketed as a [miserable] home hub, and a [horrible] assistant.

3. Nope. Apple is marketing it as an entire home kit package. Saying consumers don’t buy Amazon Echo or Echo Dot to listen to music is wrong too. The Echo is a more reasonably priced alternative to the ridiculously priced Home Pod. The market is for a reliable home Assistant in addition to music. How many people will buy multiple versions of the Home Pod to create stereo sound or to sprinkle them around the house to control home devices?

4. Apple Music availability on Echo and Echo Dots is probably Apple’s damage control to slow customers from migrating to Amazon Music. That’s my gut feeling but haven’t looked at the Apple Music statistics. The default music stream on Echo and the Dot is configurable but for me it’s Amazon Music (free to Amazon customers) and Amazon Music Unlimited ($7/mo subscription). As far as I can tell they are equal or superior products to Apple Music.

5. I already have sonos all over the house which I can control effortlessly with a Dot. I have eight Dots (2x$50j now so no matter where I am Alexa is available as a flawless assist to control timers , start times, control all my lights everywhere or individually, music on Sonos everywhere in the house or in individual rooms, control my house thermostat, give weather and news briefings. I don’t need a Apple’s “speaker” at $350 a pop and whose home assistant functionality is unreliable and awful.

7. Once Siri is ready for prime time? Lol. Siri today has a reputation as a barely functional illiterate. It’s going to take a lot to overcome it. And other assistants like Alexa will be improving at the same time Apple struggles getting Siri ready for “prime time.”

Lastly... when I wake up I say “Alexa, good morning.” I can say it in ANY room I’m in. (Not in the one room where I shelled out $350 for one HomePod.)
With those words, Alexa replies and automatically...
1. Meets with a greeting
2. Turns on the lights in the rooms in the color and strength I set up
3. A short fact for the day
4. Reads the weather
5. Reads my Apple calendar for events that day
6. Gives a traffic report with a driving eta to my office

When I get home...
“Alexa, I’m home”
She automatically....
1. Greets me
2. Turns on the lights in the rooms in the strength and scenes I set up
3. Pipes “Alternative” music on all the Sonos speakers in the house at the volume I set up.

“Alexa, I’m going to bed.
1. She turns off Sonos
2. Turns off the lights in the rooms I’ve set up.
3. Turns on night lights in the main entry way and kitchen.

I’ll continue buying IPhone and iPads because I like them. As an assistant Siri is on par as a barely functional illiterate. As a home assist HomePod is not an answer.

I’m dropping Apple Music because Amazon Music is just as good and it’s available as a streaming source on Sonos just as Apple Music is.

A neighbor dropped Apple Music for the same reason. However he uses Bose speakers rather and Sonos or the overpriced HomePod.

I will admit the HomePod is a better speaker than the Echo when the Echo is only used as a speaker. But since HomePod and Echo are not only speakers HomePod fails in every other category.
 
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2. Not entirely. If it was solely a speaker it would be as big of flop as the Fire Phone. But it’s also marketed as a [miserable] home hub, and a [horrible] assistant.

3. Nope. Apple is marketing it as an entire home kit package. Saying consumers don’t buy Amazon Echo or Echo Dot to listen to music is wrong too. The Echo is a more reasonably priced alternative to the ridiculously priced Home Pod. The market is for a reliable home Assistant in addition to music. How many people will buy multiple versions of the Home Pod to create stereo sound or to sprinkle them around the house to control home devices?

4. Apple Music availability on Echo and Echo Dots is probably Apple’s damage control to slow customers from migrating to Amazon Music. That’s my gut feeling but haven’t looked at the Apple Music statistics. The default music stream on Echo and the Dot is configurable but for me it’s Amazon Music (free to Amazon customers) and Amazon Music Unlimited ($7/mo subscription). As far as I can tell they are equal or superior products to Apple Music.

5. I already have sonos all over the house which I can control effortlessly with a Dot. I have eight Dots (2x$50j now so no matter where I am Alexa is available as a flawless assist to control timers , start times, control all my lights everywhere or individually, music on Sonos everywhere in the house or in individual rooms, control my house thermostat, give weather and news briefings. I don’t need a Apple’s “speaker” at $350 a pop and whose home assistant functionality is unreliable and awful.

7. Once Siri is ready for prime time? Lol. Siri today has a reputation as a barely functional illiterate. It’s going to take a lot to overcome it. And other assistants like Alexa will be improving at the same time Apple struggles getting Siri ready for “prime time.”

Lastly... when I wake up I say “Alexa, good morning.” I can say it in ANY room I’m in. (Not in the one room where I shelled out $350 for one HomePod.)
With those words, Alexa replies and automatically...
1. Meets with a greeting
2. Turns on the lights in the rooms in the color and strength I set up
3. A short fact for the day
4. Reads the weather
5. Reads my Apple calendar for events that day
6. Gives a traffic report with a driving eta to my office

When I get home...
“Alexa, I’m home”
She automatically....
1. Greets me
2. Turns on the lights in the rooms in the strength and scenes I set up
3. Pipes “Alternative” music on all the Sonos speakers in the house at the volume I set up.

“Alexa, I’m going to bed.
1. She turns off Sonos
2. Turns off the lights in the rooms I’ve set up.
3. Turns on night lights in the main entry way and kitchen.

I’ll continue buying IPhone and iPads because I like them. As an assistant Siri is on par as a barely functional illiterate. As a home assist HomePod is not an answer.

I’m dropping Apple Music because Amazon Music is just as good and it’s available as a streaming source on Sonos just as Apple Music is.

A neighbor dropped Apple Music for the same reason. However he uses Bose speakers rather and Sonos or the overpriced HomePod.

I will admit the HomePod is a better speaker than the Echo when the Echo is only used as a speaker. But since HomePod and Echo are not only speakers HomePod fails in every other category.
Siri can do every single one of the things you mentioned. It doesn't sound like you have spent much time with Siri on the HomePod. What makes HomePod a miserable home hub?
 
2. Not entirely. If it was solely a speaker it would be as big of flop as the Fire Phone. But it’s also marketed as a [miserable] home hub, and a [horrible] assistant.

3. Nope. Apple is marketing it as an entire home kit package. Saying consumers don’t buy Amazon Echo or Echo Dot to listen to music is wrong too. The Echo is a more reasonably priced alternative to the ridiculously priced Home Pod. The market is for a reliable home Assistant in addition to music. How many people will buy multiple versions of the Home Pod to create stereo sound or to sprinkle them around the house to control home devices?

4. Apple Music availability on Echo and Echo Dots is probably Apple’s damage control to slow customers from migrating to Amazon Music. That’s my gut feeling but haven’t looked at the Apple Music statistics. The default music stream on Echo and the Dot is configurable but for me it’s Amazon Music (free to Amazon customers) and Amazon Music Unlimited ($7/mo subscription). As far as I can tell they are equal or superior products to Apple Music.

5. I already have sonos all over the house which I can control effortlessly with a Dot. I have eight Dots (2x$50j now so no matter where I am Alexa is available as a flawless assist to control timers , start times, control all my lights everywhere or individually, music on Sonos everywhere in the house or in individual rooms, control my house thermostat, give weather and news briefings. I don’t need a Apple’s “speaker” at $350 a pop and whose home assistant functionality is unreliable and awful.

7. Once Siri is ready for prime time? Lol. Siri today has a reputation as a barely functional illiterate. It’s going to take a lot to overcome it. And other assistants like Alexa will be improving at the same time Apple struggles getting Siri ready for “prime time.”

Lastly... when I wake up I say “Alexa, good morning.” I can say it in ANY room I’m in. (Not in the one room where I shelled out $350 for one HomePod.)
With those words, Alexa replies and automatically...
1. Meets with a greeting
2. Turns on the lights in the rooms in the color and strength I set up
3. A short fact for the day
4. Reads the weather
5. Reads my Apple calendar for events that day
6. Gives a traffic report with a driving eta to my office

When I get home...
“Alexa, I’m home”
She automatically....
1. Greets me
2. Turns on the lights in the rooms in the strength and scenes I set up
3. Pipes “Alternative” music on all the Sonos speakers in the house at the volume I set up.

“Alexa, I’m going to bed.
1. She turns off Sonos
2. Turns off the lights in the rooms I’ve set up.
3. Turns on night lights in the main entry way and kitchen.

I’ll continue buying IPhone and iPads because I like them. As an assistant Siri is on par as a barely functional illiterate. As a home assist HomePod is not an answer.

I’m dropping Apple Music because Amazon Music is just as good and it’s available as a streaming source on Sonos just as Apple Music is.

A neighbor dropped Apple Music for the same reason. However he uses Bose speakers rather and Sonos or the overpriced HomePod.

I will admit the HomePod is a better speaker than the Echo when the Echo is only used as a speaker. But since HomePod and Echo are not only speakers HomePod fails in every other category.

HomePod does every single one of those things and it does it with significantly better sound that envelopes your home. The fact that you don't know that, demonstrates that you're not qualified to speak on the subject you attempted to speak on. You've discredited everything else you said given you've plainly demonstrated your ignorance on the subject.

Go Read up on Siri Shortcuts, how they work with HomePod, how Shortcuts brings the capabilities of hundreds of iOS apps (and growing daily) to HomePod, spend some time using one (you clearly have no experience with HomePod), then maybe people will take you seriously.
 
HomePod does every single one of those things and it does it with significantly better sound that envelopes your home. The fact that you don't know that, demonstrates that you're not qualified to speak on the subject you attempted to speak on. You've discredited everything else you said given you've plainly demonstrated your ignorance on the subject.

Go Read up on Siri Shortcuts, how they work with HomePod, how Shortcuts brings the capabilities of hundreds of iOS apps (and growing daily) to HomePod, spend some time using one (you clearly have no experience with HomePod), then maybe people will take you seriously.

Good grief. This isn’t even a discussion.

I’m okay with you feeling Siri’s function as a home assistant is better than Alexa. It’s both ridiculous and laughably untrue but I’m okay with it. Just as I’m also more than okay with you wanting to pay $400 a piece x 6-8+ devices to put them in all the locations in your house for convenient use. And put up with Siri not understanding and having to jump through hoops to get HomePod to function. Seriously, knock yourself out. Lol. Siri stinks and so does Apple’s home products. It’s just a fact.
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Siri can do every single one of the things you mentioned. It doesn't sound like you have spent much time with Siri on the HomePod. What makes HomePod a miserable home hub?

Please read the post you quoted and the one above.
 
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Good grief. This isn’t even a discussion.

I’m okay with you feeling Siri’s function as a home assistant is better than Alexa. It’s both ridiculous and laughably untrue but I’m okay with it. Just as I’m also more than okay with you wanting to pay $400 a piece x 6-8+ devices to put them in all the locations in your house for convenient use. And put up with Siri not understanding and having to jump through hoops to get HomePod to function. Seriously, knock yourself out. Lol. Siri stinks and so does Apple’s home products. It’s just a fact.
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Please read the post you quoted and the one above.
I have read the post I quoted and the one above. Nothing in there answers my question "What makes HomePod a miserable home hub?" I stand by my initial comment "It doesn't sound like you have spent much time with Siri on the HomePod."

Why do I need to put them everywhere in the house? I have a watch and phone that are with me just about 100% of the time. Also... HomePod hears incredibly well. I can be in another room and HomePod will have no issue hearing me.

As a home assistant, meaning controlling smart home products, IMO the HomePod is the best at it. HomeKit is incredibly easy to use and setup. It is faster and more reliable than Alexa (I have both). Does Alexa have some benefits? Sure. Theres a couple of things I wish HomePod did that Alexa does, none of them are Siri specific issues though.

It really seems to me like you have some kind of weird hatred for HomePod. You have offered no "facts". Just a lot of nonsense about how terrible Siri is, how HomePod is overpriced (at $350 I agree it is too expensive.), and how terrible Apple's home products are (which they dont actually make any home products).
 
I have read the post I quoted and the one above. Nothing in there answers my question "What makes HomePod a miserable home hub?" I stand by my initial comment "It doesn't sound like you have spent much time with Siri on the HomePod."

Why do I need to put them everywhere in the house? I have a watch and phone that are with me just about 100% of the time. Also... HomePod hears incredibly well. I can be in another room and HomePod will have no issue hearing me.

As a home assistant, meaning controlling smart home products, IMO the HomePod is the best at it. HomeKit is incredibly easy to use and setup. It is faster and more reliable than Alexa (I have both). Does Alexa have some benefits? Sure. Theres a couple of things I wish HomePod did that Alexa does, none of them are Siri specific issues though.

It really seems to me like you have some kind of weird hatred for HomePod. You have offered no "facts". Just a lot of nonsense about how terrible Siri is, how HomePod is overpriced (at $350 I agree it is too expensive.), and how terrible Apple's home products are (which they dont actually make any home products).

HomePod’s debut and it functionality at debut was murder. More of Apple’s reputation right down the drain. Sonos One and Echo were already prepared to deliver better functional at a fraction of the cost of Homepod. HomePod has improved their function as an assistant but where else could it go but up? Siri as an assistant lacks way behind it’s competition.

Why would you want more than one? Maybe because you want to hear music in stereo? Maybe your home is bigger than an efficiency apartment with multiple levels and rooms? Any google search comparing HomePod with competitors clearly lays out how behind the curve and trying to keep up Apple is.

It’s genuinely mind boggling why anyone who wants a home assistant would shell out money for the Homepod. I’ll likely drop Apple Music for Amazon Music soon.

And just for the record I have 7 Apple TVs, 2 iPhones, 1 Mac, 2 Airs, 1 Apple Watch, and 3 iPads. I’m not an Apple hater, but my disappointment is growing.
 
HomePod’s debut and it functionality at debut was murder. More of Apple’s reputation right down the drain. Sonos One and Echo were already prepared to deliver better functional at a fraction of the cost of Homepod. HomePod has improved their function as an assistant but where else could it go but up? Siri as an assistant lacks way behind it’s competition.

Why would you want more than one? Maybe because you want to hear music in stereo? Maybe your home is bigger than an efficiency apartment with multiple levels and rooms? Any google search comparing HomePod with competitors clearly lays out how behind the curve and trying to keep up Apple is.

It’s genuinely mind boggling why anyone who wants a home assistant would shell out money for the Homepod. I’ll likely drop Apple Music for Amazon Music soon.

And just for the record I have 7 Apple TVs, 2 iPhones, 1 Mac, 2 Airs, 1 Apple Watch, and 3 iPads. I’m not an Apple hater, but my disappointment is growing.
Will Siri order you a pizza? No.
Will you be able to shop through Siri? No.
Can Siri give you any fact under the sun? No.

However, as a smart home assistant it is absolutely fantastic. It hears very well, most times it will hear you even if you are not in the same room. HomeKit and Siri together make smart home tech much easier to understand and more functional. The Alexa app has gotten better from what it was, but still leaves a lot to be desired. Why is HomePod, in your opinion a bad home assistant. You just keep saying how bad it is without saying why you feel it is so bad.

It is beyond clear at this point that you have never used a HomePod. Can you cite some sources that say HomePod is so far behind the curve? Most articles about HomePod admit the sound is similar to 2 Sonos One speakers or a Sonos Play:3.

I never mentioned wanting more than 1. I said why would someone need them throughout the house. I have 4 myself and really enjoy using them. It doesn't mean you need one in every room of the house. If you are just looking for a smart home assistant and you have an iPhone/Watch you always have Siri with you to control your devices.
 
Couldn't disagree more. I am using my HomePod's more and more. I listen to more music and podcasts now because all I need to do is tell Siri to play it and suddenly its playing throughout the house
I wouldn't pay full price for it, but at the $250 level, it is a fantastic product.

Wholeheartedly agree. As I have added additional HP's and other HomeKit devices, the seamless home environment that Apple envisioned is becoming more apparent. It is an amazing thing to walk from room to room and just make a request that is answered by the nearest HP e.g., emptying waste cans and shredder bin in office to take out, "Hey Siri, turn on lights in front hall and kitchen ceiling", "Hey Siri, unlock patio door" which lights my way and unlocks the door to the trash area. It's truly a relief to just be able to tell Siri to "..turn on all lights" (connected bulbs only, of course) or "...play everywhere" for playlist or music genre started in one room, and "....set temperature". It surely beats running from room to room turning things on, dimming, connecting BT speakers to the iPhone when getting ready for guests.

Likewise, have used sale prices and open box at BB to average probably, $275, for our HP's.
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Siri can do every single one of the things you mentioned. It doesn't sound like you have spent much time with Siri on the HomePod. What makes HomePod a miserable home hub?

lol.....I was going to say exactly the same thing. I think the main negative comparison people are making has to do with the shopping features of Alexa. Personally, I prefer using the computer to shop in order to see what I'm purchasing. It's probably faster, more efficient to visually identify a product and then use Amazon's "one-click" shopping rather than verbally specify product size, quantity, brand, color, scent......on a speaker.

There is no way in this lifetime that I'm going to have speakers throughout my home, connected to our bank and CC's, that do not have the privacy safeguards that Apple currently has in place. This should be doubly true for anyone who has children/teens in their home. Amazon and Google are both collecting voice recognition samples, household data, conversations, purchasing patterns etc., and selling them to others. I'm not comfortable at all with that and see it as a violation of privacy. HP is worth the price, given the privacy protection and sound quality, and should last for many years of use and software updates.

Anyone else wonder "WHY" Google and Amazon are underpricing and/or giving away their speakers with other products? Perhaps it is a way to get them into your home so that they can acquire and sell the most profitable product of all......you and your family's personal information.
 
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Will Siri order you a pizza? No.

Actually, yes. There are a number of food ordering apps that work with Shortcuts.

If it has a Shortcut, it works with Siri. If it works with Siri, it works on HomePod. The Shortcuts API instantly brought HomePod up to par with Alexa because it enables any app in the App Store to work with HomePod. Better yet, the developer doesn’t have to build a “Skill”, just flip a switch in Xcode to let Siri make Shortcut suggestions, or pick a few actions in the app that users can make Shortcuts for.
 
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I don't want or need my home life activities constantly monitored by Google or anyone else and I am not a conspiracist. I love the homepod sound and use 2 (heavily discounted) for music.
To the UK poster that said ' "The fact that I can't play my HUGE (paid for) iTuns library on a HomePod meant I didn't/won't buy one."
In the US, Siri will play and control ALL Purchased iTunes music with OR without Apple Music or Match paid services.
 
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Actually, yes. There are a number of food ordering apps that work with Shortcuts.

If it has a Shortcut, it works with Siri. If it works with Siri, it works on HomePod. The Shortcuts API instantly brought HomePod up to par with Alexa because it enables any app in the App Store to work with HomePod. Better yet, the developer doesn’t have to build a “Skill”, just flip a switch in Xcode to let Siri make Shortcut suggestions, or pick a few actions in the app that users can make Shortcuts for.
I stand corrected!
 
Good grief. This isn’t even a discussion.

I’m okay with you feeling Siri’s function as a home assistant is better than Alexa. It’s both ridiculous and laughably untrue but I’m okay with it. Just as I’m also more than okay with you wanting to pay $400 a piece x 6-8+ devices to put them in all the locations in your house for convenient use. And put up with Siri not understanding and having to jump through hoops to get HomePod to function. Seriously, knock yourself out. Lol. Siri stinks and so does Apple’s home products. It’s just a fact.
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Please read the post you quoted and the one above.
I agree that alexa and google assistant are better but that doesn't mean the homepod and siri are total trash. For someone like me who has a lot of apple devices the homepod can do a lot of things well. I have 2 homepods in a stereo pair but I'm not going to get homepods for every room. I have 1 regular echo, 2 echo dots and 2 google home minis.
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I don't want or need my home life activities constantly monitored by Google or anyone else and I am not a conspiracist. I love the homepod sound and use 2 (heavily discounted) for music.
To the UK poster that said ' "The fact that I can't play my HUGE (paid for) iTuns library on a HomePod meant I didn't/won't buy one."
In the US, Siri will play and control ALL Purchased iTunes music with OR without Apple Music or Match paid services.
You can also airplay anything you want to the homepod even if it wasn't purchased on iTunes.
 
I'm happy that apple was smart enough to get Apple Music onto Alexa devices.

Guess what, healthy competition is good for the consumer. Apple should feel stressed about Siri. It's a dumbed down assistance that I use for very rudimentary things. And even then it struggles. Alexa is far superior. I guess the Siri team has something to work towards.
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Couldn't disagree more. I am using my HomePod's more and more. I listen to more music and podcasts now because all I need to do is tell Siri to play it and suddenly its playing throughout the house.

I wouldn't pay full price for it, but at the $250 level, it is a fantastic product.


I couldn't disagree more on what a terrible product the HomePod is. I bought and returned mine. Why? It didn't function or sound as well as the Sonos one I was trying to replace with the HomePod (I love apple products because of their quality). The HomePod was a fail on so many fronts that you can read my other comments on this forum about my thoughts about the HomePod. If you like struggling with technology and having a dumbed down smart speaker that has the bass turned up too high on everything coming into (except the Siri voice) then you will love the HomePod.
 
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I'm happy that apple was smart enough to get Apple Music onto Alexa devices.

Guess what, healthy competition is good for the consumer. Apple should feel stressed about Siri. It's a dumbed down assistance that I use for very rudimentary things. And even then it struggles. Alexa is far superior. I guess the Siri team has something to work towards.
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I couldn't disagree more on what a terrible product the HomePod is. I bought and returned mine. Why? It didn't function or sound as well as the Sonos one I was trying to replace with the HomePod (I love apple products because of their quality). The HomePod was a fail on so many fronts that you can read my other comments on this forum about my thoughts about the HomePod. If you like struggling with technology and having a dumbed down smart speaker that has the bass turned up too high on everything coming into (except the Siri voice) then you will love the HomePod.
I don't need to read your other negative comments about a product that I happen to really like and use every single day. Incredibly easy setup, much better smart home assistant than the rest (I have used all of them), and good sound. Enjoy your Sonos, I have their Beam speaker and really enjoy it. The only fail with the HomePod is the starting price of $350. At $250 they would sell well imo. I have paid between 230-250 for each of the four that I have.
 
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I don't need to read your other negative comments about a product that I happen to really like and use every single day. Incredibly easy setup, much better smart home assistant than the rest (I have used all of them), and good sound. Enjoy your Sonos, I have their Beam speaker and really enjoy it. The only fail with the HomePod is the starting price of $350. At $250 they would sell well imo. I have paid between 230-250 for each of the four that I have.

We have rights to our opinions. Believe me, I scoff at my friends who minimize my investment of 10's of thousands that I have spent on Apple devices over the years (been using apple for 20 years +).

Apple isn't perfect and they will get better with Siri once they figure it out. For my needs I just like that the Alexa works (it's definitely ahead of Siri on the in production time spent improving it). I do not like that Amazon can possibly gather more information about me than I would like. So I'm rooting for Apple to fix Siri and the HomePod to what I need (better alarm interface, better sounding speakers - I'm not one for lots of bass).

I know Apple will get there and I'll definitely be buying 3 - 4 HomePods once they get it right. On this front there are better solutions for me that will work for now and I have the $$$ sitting aside for when HomePod 2 comes out and it is much better. It would be cool if they even integrated the HomePod more into iOS, Apple TV and Mac even more. There is lots of potential there for the HomePod. The main barrier to entry for me is just the no control over output quality (software change) and Siri (just working with the HomePod in general). I could definitely provide good examples if Apple ever wants to use me for just user testing!
 
I have to say the HomePod is a fantasic speaker for its price bracket, but I’ve found that it’s particularly great with live songs.
 
I can do way more with my Echo speakers than my HomePods. But i find Alexa to be more flaky. While Siri less flaky. So i guess there is a trade off. Homepods are more reliable, but does less overall. My echos do more. But they aren’t always as responsive.
 
I can do way more with my Echo speakers than my HomePods. But i find Alexa to be more flaky. While Siri less flaky. So i guess there is a trade off. Homepods are more reliable, but does less overall. My echos do more. But they aren’t always as responsive.

Would you mind giving some examples? It’s the question that I asked at the top of this thread that nobody has yet answered.

What is it that you do with Alexa on Echo speakers that can’t be done with Siri on HomePod?
 
Would you mind giving some examples? It’s the question that I asked at the top of this thread that nobody has yet answered.

What is it that you do with Alexa on Echo speakers that can’t be done with Siri on HomePod?
Check up on the status of my amazon orders.
Order from just eat
Play an audiobook from audible via voice
Play spotify natively
 
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Check up on the status of my amazon orders.
Order from just eat
Play an audiobook from audible via voice
Play spotify natively
You can still play Spotify on HomePod, just not via voice. Not a big deal to me. But I've now gone back to Apple Music for the 4th time and it's finally able to replace Spotify for me. I'm discovering so much music now! And playlists that for me are better than what I've found on Spotify. Took awhile to get there though.
While Spotify doesn't officially have shortcuts you can still make them. I've downloaded several over on the shortcuts sub-reddit.

You can airplay audible as well. Though it would be nice if they added shortcuts to do it by voice. Once you airplay you can then use your voice to pause, etc. I've done that with Spotify on CarPlay in my truck.

I've never used Alexa to check on my orders. Always an app on my phone. However the deliveries app I use has Siri shortcuts so I can use voice on the HomePod to check the status of not just amazon orders but all orders.
Shortcuts is quite powerful and greatly expands the use of siri.

I do also have an echo dot, 3 google home minis, 1 google home and 2 Sonos(I get a work discount on these). And the HomePod is $279 at best buy right now.
 
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You can still play Spotify on HomePod, just not via voice. Not a big deal to me. But I've now gone back to Apple Music for the 4th time and it's finally able to replace Spotify for me. I'm discovering so much music now! And playlists that for me are better than what I've found on Spotify. Took awhile to get there though.
While Spotify doesn't officially have shortcuts you can still make them. I've downloaded several over on the shortcuts sub-reddit.

You can airplay audible as well. Though it would be nice if they added shortcuts to do it by voice. Once you airplay you can then use your voice to pause, etc. I've done that with Spotify on CarPlay in my truck.

I've never used Alexa to check on my orders. Always an app on my phone. However the deliveries app I use has Siri shortcuts so I can use voice on the HomePod to check the status of not just amazon orders but all orders.
Shortcuts is quite powerful and greatly expands the use of siri.

I do also have an echo dot, 3 google home minis, 1 google home and 2 Sonos(I get a work discount on these). And the HomePod is $279 at best buy right now.
Most of the things Alexa/Google Assistant can do that the homepod can't aren't really deal breakers to me. I prefer the homepod because of it's superior sound quality and deep integration with ios. I can get my homepods to do simple things like sending text/whats'app messages, making calls, adding events to my calendar, make notes etc which integrate with the stock ios apps rather than third party apps/not being able to do it (Alexa/Google).

However it would be nice if siri could do some of these things. I do expect the homepod to continually get better with software updates. I've never really been successful with getting the shortcuts to work consistently on my homepods.
 
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Shortcuts aren’t consistent. But I also think it depends on the shortcut. I have a shortcut that triggers my Goodnight scene and turns on Do Not Disturb on my phone. It and it’s Good morning sibling work really well. My turn on tv shortcut works extremely well. But  really needs to work on the Shortcut integration. It’s not ready for prime time or Muggles.
 
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