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Chundles

macrumors G5
Jul 4, 2005
12,037
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Fender said:
What's a realistic update going to look like though? I don't expect much at all. In terms of the the Powerbook, I think it will be similar to the last revision, just small bumps here and there.

FSB will still be sad @ 167
Maybe 1.7-1.8 GHz on the CPU (Don't think it will get to 2.0)
512 MB RAM on all units, No DDR2
Maybe 128 MB video card standard on high-end 15.2"
Maybe 100 GB standard on high-end 15.2"
Better SuperDrive, still Combo drives in lower 12" & 15"
I'm pretty damn sure there will be no rumoured resolution increase. Apple isn't going to fly in the face of their philosophy on Resolution:Screen Size

I think that's the most realistic. The only improvement I think people can really hope for is a little price decrease; but even that I'd be surprised by.

Yup, this looks pretty much right. Get the specs to the point where Apple knows exactly what's going to happen to them and that will be it. It'll be the least problematic G4 PowerBook rev ever and that's all Apple wants going into the Intel PB's sometime late next year or 2007.
 

wdlove

macrumors P6
Oct 20, 2002
16,568
0
Sounds as though we are in for a very exciting Fall. Especially with the coming holiday shopping season.
 

devilot

Moderator emeritus
May 1, 2005
15,584
1
unregbaron said:
Is this normal? Lots of product all discounted...
They always have a good amount of items at the discounted refurbished price. What is really indicative is the 'Sale' tab because in the past, when newer models came out, the older ones would be put on sale in that tab (they're not used so they're not refurbished).
 

ipacmm

macrumors 65816
Jun 17, 2003
1,304
0
Cincinnati, OH
I hope that they lower the price on the 30" display and come out with some new Power Mac's...if they do that, I will order both.
 

Flyinace2000

macrumors 6502a
Sep 28, 2004
666
0
If they want to make the next bumb 1.7 or 1.8 they will need to change the FSB. As i understand it FSB x Multiplier = Clock Speed. So 167 x 10 = 1.67 ghz. So if they bumb the multiplier to 11 we will see 1.83t ghz. If they change the FSB to 1.8 and keep the mulitplier we will have a 1.8ghz. I think a faster FSB would be better than the extra .37ghz of speed.

Correct me if I am wrong.

BTW - so glad i am not working at Apple anymore. Feels good tobe able to post thoughts and opions with the board again!
 

swedishchef

macrumors newbie
Sep 27, 2005
4
0
The CompUSA by me has pulled their floor models for the low end 15" PB and the low end 12" PB, don't know if that really means anything but it could be a good sign....
 

shadowmoses

macrumors 68000
Mar 6, 2005
1,821
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MacSA said:
That's what people said when they first heard about the new Mac minis.

I agree the iBooks could definatly be in for an update not so far spec wise more in the form of a re-design possibly to match the nano....Black iBook SWEET!!!

ShadoW
 

djkny

macrumors 6502
Sep 30, 2003
460
0
No New Updates. Period

Again, since we all harbor fanatical delusions about updates, I'm no one to say "no," but back to reality --- no new powerbooks, ibooks or powermacs in Oct (maybe, if we're lucky, in Nov).

Sorry for the Europeans, here, but who cares if John Lewis shows no stock, or whatever Joe Schmo store in the EU shows limited stock.

The US Stores are the first indications of anything in the pipeline, period. The US Apple Store shows no delayed shipping, no indication of anything new, etc. OOOO..... Mac Mini updates. Big deal.

Please do not go by anything a reseller tells you in the UK, the Australian Outback, Mozambique, Peru, Japan, Greenland, etc. they have delays in stock, because, simply put, they get things later than we here in the States do. A pure and simple fact.
 

maddav

macrumors 6502
Jul 3, 2004
390
0
Manchester, UK
djkny said:
Again, since we all harbor fanatical delusions about updates, I'm no one to say "no," but back to reality

Awww not reality :D

Seriously though, I like hearing about the rumours and stuff, and the 'buzz' around updated products is always interesting. I wouldn't be so harsh on people's general musings about updates and trying to predict patterns in Apple's updates (eg. low stock) it's part of the fun :cool:
 

MacSA

macrumors 68000
Original poster
Jun 4, 2003
1,803
5
UK
djkny said:
Again, since we all harbor fanatical delusions about updates, I'm no one to say "no," but back to reality --- no new powerbooks, ibooks or powermacs in Oct (maybe, if we're lucky, in Nov).

Sorry for the Europeans, here, but who cares if John Lewis shows no stock, or whatever Joe Schmo store in the EU shows limited stock.

The US Stores are the first indications of anything in the pipeline, period. The US Apple Store shows no delayed shipping, no indication of anything new, etc. OOOO..... Mac Mini updates. Big deal.

Please do not go by anything a reseller tells you in the UK, the Australian Outback, Mozambique, Peru, Japan, Greenland, etc. they have delays in stock, because, simply put, they get things later than we here in the States do. A pure and simple fact.


Yawn... Typical "American centric" viewpoint -

The store I referred to is a MAJOR supplier of Apple products in the UK, I was told by them that the current Mac mini had been DISCONTINUED only a couple of days before the confirmation of new mac minis appeared.
 

solvs

macrumors 603
Jun 25, 2002
5,684
1
LaLaLand, CA
I don't know about the iBooks. I think they just didn't anticipate sales to be as good as they are. Maybe a new model coming out based on the black nano's success, as said above. New PowerBook eventually. Probably just a spec bump. Hopefully new PowerMacs (I want one), but I don't know about the iMac. Small bump maybe. Same with eMacs. I just hope people aren't getting their hopes up.

Little early for the Intels too, but who knows.
 

IllTakeAnApple

macrumors member
Jul 13, 2005
44
0
San Antonio, Tx
funny thing the other night i couldnt sleep i was rolling around in bed trying to figure out what i was going to be doing about getting a new computer. preferable a laptop, then i actually thought wow wouldnt it be neat if apple revised all its product lines. I could be possible I thought to myself. Hell they hadnt really boosted anything lately and with speculations on new powerbooks, powermacs and even news of new mac minis why not a ibook too since they were both updated on the same day. i think it would be an awesome way of say goodbye to the ppc. just spectacular!!!
 

djkny

macrumors 6502
Sep 30, 2003
460
0
MacSA said:
Yawn... Typical "American centric" viewpoint -

The store I referred to is a MAJOR supplier of Apple products in the UK, I was told by them that the current Mac mini had been DISCONTINUED only a couple of days before the confirmation of new mac minis appeared.


you're right, 'tis so, but so is Apple, as in "cupertino, california, usa" so this isn't american-centrism I'm espousing, here, just practical reality.

We've got more access stateside here in terms of available stock, shipping, etc. and more than likely, get new releases quicker domestically than anywhere else. again, just an obvious fact. of course, I'd like to believe that there are updates in the pipeline and that the UK indication confirms as such, but I'd rather not get my hopes up!
 

stevep

macrumors 6502a
Oct 13, 2004
876
4
UK
djkny said:
you're right, 'tis so, but so is Apple, as in "cupertino, california, usa" so this isn't american-centrism I'm espousing, here, just practical reality.

We've got more access stateside here in terms of available stock, shipping, etc. and more than likely, get new releases quicker domestically than anywhere else. again, just an obvious fact. of course, I'd like to believe that there are updates in the pipeline and that the UK indication confirms as such, but I'd rather not get my hopes up!
London is actually closer to Shanghai (where my iBook shipped from) than Cupertino.........
 

nomad01

macrumors 68000
Aug 1, 2005
1,734
73
Birmingham, England
djkny said:
you're right, 'tis so, but so is Apple, as in "cupertino, california, usa" so this isn't american-centrism I'm espousing, here, just practical reality.

We've got more access stateside here in terms of available stock, shipping, etc. and more than likely, get new releases quicker domestically than anywhere else. again, just an obvious fact. of course, I'd like to believe that there are updates in the pipeline and that the UK indication confirms as such, but I'd rather not get my hopes up!

Maybe using phrases like "Sorry for the Europeans, here, but who cares if John Lewis shows no stock, or whatever Joe Schmo store in the EU shows limited stock" doesn't help? It comes across like jingoism which I'm sure wasn't your intent.

Truth of the matter is that Apple seems to be supplying it's UK stores as quickly as most of it's US ones. In fact, I'd say faster than some of the US stores in some cases. Apple has a very small number of stores to supply in the UK so it seems to be making sure they're taken care of. Certainly the last couple of releases have appeared in my local Apple Store within a couple of days at most and I think the flagship Regent Street store seems to get them even quicker.

When we're looking at stock levels, it would be foolish to base opinions on the US or EU alone. Even Apple Insider is quoting Europe's distribution channels as an indication of possible product refreshes.
 

TaKashMoney

macrumors 6502
Jul 15, 2005
298
0
This all just seems so bizarre to me. Updating their entire stock (even ones just updated) to what purpose? Boost holiday sales? Go out of PPC with a bang? It just doesnt seem to make much financial sense. I am no expert, but it seems like a very difficult and expensive process to me to re-engineer all of your products at once. Let alone manufacture and ship all of these products to retail stores, warehouses etc, only to do it all again in 6 months. I can understand the mindset with quietly updating the mini (Its a lowend test run for more gradual frequent updates like all pc manufacturers, or because its the low-end, it makes sense to continually make it more appealing to penny-pinching consumers) but clearly, updated ibooks are selling like hotcakes. This being said, I hope the rumors are right and everyone gets what they have always wanted. Except ibooks. I just bought one for the damn student union and I might cry if they get updated again. Someone please explain to me why apple would think this intelligent.

PS didnt Jobs say something like theres a real lull of exciting new products until Intel?
 
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