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Bumping thread again that, disappointingly, after drastically improving the smoothness of the 13 Pro with 15.4, the smoothness was immediately dialed back with 15.4.1. Not all the way back, but enough that I'm once again annoyed.
Sorry to hear that. This is an issue I haven't experienced with Eye Phone - either that or I'm just not watching very carefully.
 
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I don't see why Apple would want to limit their new flagship products at launch. iPhone is their main bread and butter.

I think there needs to be more elaboration on the performance "issues." What kind of activities did you see problem with? It's hard to understand the issue when you were simply said it's not "smooth." Smoothness it relative. Are you experiencing the slowdowns after every restore when you set up a new iPhone? That could simply mean due to the iPhone downloading and installing all the apps/data from the backup. Also, is your iPhone storage almost full? The SSD on iPhones perform worse when they are near full.

As for iOS15, it's so buggy on its GM. Any improvements afterwards would be due to bug fixes.
 
I don't see why Apple would want to limit their new flagship products at launch. iPhone is their main bread and butter.
Well, and I know this is all just guesswork, but I would attribute it to two things:

1. Releasing a new iOS iteration at the same time as new phone models means those models will be spending months on what is essentially beta testing. It takes a while to get the kinks out and these days it seems to take longer and longer.

2. There would be some incentive for them to implement more aggressive battery-saving algorithms for the first stretch of a new phone model's life. Battery life is the first thing everyone obsess over and complains about on any new device or any update, without fail. It still happens even with every single iOS update even though we should all know by now that the phone will use more battery immediately following an update.

I think there needs to be more elaboration on the performance "issues."

The main issues I always seem to notice that eventually go away are smoothness as in, smooth scrolling vs. choppy scrolling, smooth transitions vs. choppy ones, general jitteriness and frame skips on scrolling, animations, and videos. To a lesser extent, sometimes some minor lag in response time after screen taps.

I have even tried to attribute it to just my perception and OCD, but with each model there's like a defining point with one specific iOS update where it suddenly all clears up. In this case, it seemed to be 15.4, but seemed dialed back slightly with 15.4.1. Only slightly I guess.
 
iPhone 13 pro max is the first iPhone that does not lag ever for me. iPhone 11 lagged when quickly switching into WhatsApp, all others I used had weird slow downs occasionally, but 13 pro max is the first phone that never lags or slows down
 
iOS 15.5 has made the phone ultra smooth again, even smoother than 15.4.

I think this was the last time I will buy a new iPhone at launch, as the first 6-8 months have consistently shown to have choppy, buggy performance.
 
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iOS 15.5 has made the phone ultra smooth again, even smoother than 15.4.

I think this was the last time I will buy a new iPhone at launch, as the first 6-8 months have consistently shown to have choppy, buggy performance.
This is first time I’ve had newest iPhone (13mini) and it’s been a buggy mess. Though, maybe it’s just iOS 15 ?

I’m maybe with you. I never had the widespread issues people have before on iOS releases (except ios8) and always figured it was because I had at least year old phones.
 
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Good... now, are you upgrading to the next iteration or staying?

Now that the 13 Pro seems to be very smooth and stable, and the fact that this was the 4th iPhone in a row I bought at or near launch (13 Pro, 12 Pro, 8, and original SE) and each one was choppy and buggy for much of it's first year, no. From now on I will upgrade to whatever models are a year old.

This is first time I’ve had newest iPhone (13mini) and it’s been a buggy mess. Though, maybe it’s just iOS 15 ?

I’m maybe with you. I never had the widespread issues people have before on iOS releases (except ios8) and always figured it was because I had at least year old phones.

Nah, I don't think it's iOS 15.
 
Now that the 13 Pro seems to be very smooth and stable, and the fact that this was the 4th iPhone in a row I bought at or near launch (13 Pro, 12 Pro, 8, and original SE) and each one was choppy and buggy for much of it's first year, no. From now on I will upgrade to whatever models are a year old.
Well, usually launches can be choppy due to the fact that the OS is just released on the new hardware.
 
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Well, usually launches can be choppy due to the fact that the OS is just released on the new hardware.

Understandable, but my consistent experience across four phones has had that choppiness last for a better part of the first year of the phone's life. It's just not worth it to buy the brand new phones if so much of their first year they feel like they're still in beta testing.
 
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Understandable, but my consistent experience across four phones has had that choppiness last for a better part of the first year of the phone's life. It's just not worth it to buy the brand new phones if so much of their first year they feel like they're still in beta testing.
I think I may pick up a year old phone next time… problem is that I have no interest in a baseline phone anymore, and the Pros always stop being sold by Apple when the new one comes out. (Totally not worth it dealing with beta software on newest iPhones).

I kind of wish I could pick up an 11pro, but the chip is too old now to spend $$ for a new phone that has three year old tech.
 
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I've never really noticed this on the front end with phones, only the back end of life with random performance issues and some screen lag. The 6s was the only phone I remember with distinct screen blanking issues that was fixed with software, and was ultimately covered with battery warranty coverage for some early models.
 
I think I may pick up a year old phone next time… problem is that I have no interest in a baseline phone anymore, and the Pros always stop being sold by Apple when the new one comes out. (Totally not worth it dealing with beta software on newest iPhones).

I kind of wish I could pick up an 11pro, but the chip is too old now to spend $$ for a new phone that has three year old tech.

Yeah, that is definitely an issue. The Pro's are what I want, but hate that they discontinue them. Perhaps I will buy the previous year's Pro right before the new ones release next time.
 
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