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super chimp

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Finally getting decent software support with three Android versions and four years of updates. Also finally a more normal integrated camera app. Also class leading battery life, incredible audio & camera performance. The screen is a more normal aspect ratio & only HD. But overall I would say this is by far their best flagship in years. If you pre-order now you can claim a pair of fancy Sony headphones. Still has a headphone jack & memory card slot & weighs only 192g.

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super chimp

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The 10 VI is an affordable midranger which gets the same software support and headphone jack & decent speakers. Very compact & lightweight at just 164g. Screen is fixed at 60Hz & a snapdragon 6 gen1 but still 8GB RAM & it’s only £349.

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super chimp

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Sony has announced its pre-order offer for the freshly unveiled Xperia 1 VI for UK customers. Those who pre-order the Xperia 1 VI from Sony's UK website will get a free pair of Sony WH-1000XM5 headphones worth €329/£299 and 50% off on the Xperia I IV Case purchased from Sony Store Online.

 

webkit

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Unfortunately for those in the U.S., the Xperia 1 VI won't officially be sold here. I wonder if this is a sign that Sony will be exiting the U.S. smartphone market in the near future. Sony smartphone sales overall have really been struggling.
 
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super chimp

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Unfortunately for those in the U.S., the Xperia 1 VI won't officially be sold here. I wonder if this is a sign that Sony will be exiting the U.S. smartphone market in the near future. Sony smartphone sales overall have really been struggling.

Do you mean overall globally or just the US?
 

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dumastudetto

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Globally. For example, according to an IDC analyst, Sony's mobile sales dropped 40% in its home market (Japan) last year and may see a similar drop this year.


I'm surprised they are still making handsets at this point. I remember when they laid a load of Xperia people off, hired a new executive, and scaled back all their mobile plans and ambitions. Many years later, I would never have predicted they'd still be trying to crack this market in May 2024.
 

Aneres11

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As someone who has used pretty much all of the Xperia 1's and some of the 5's... Count me in for the 1 VI.
This looks to fix a lot of the niggles with the previous devices. I think it looks like one of the most complete devices for me. Very exciting they may finally have a home run!
 
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super chimp

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The 10 VI review here points out the screen has a colour shift issue which is unusual these days even in midrange handsets. Also though the main camera is the same as last years model it has worse performance.

 

Aneres11

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God I hate GSM Arena reviews. If I have to see a photo sample of that snail or the clock on that building one more time. Like get some creativity and start taking photos of something else!
You want a video sample? Hey, here's one of the same road we've done video samples of for the last 10 years!
Drives me insane.
 
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super chimp

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God I hate GSM Arena reviews. If I have to see a photo sample of that snail or the clock on that building one more time. Like get some creativity and start taking photos of something else!
You want a video sample? Hey, here's one of the same road we've done video samples of for the last 10 years!
Drives me insane.

Surely that makes it easier to compare things like camera performance between different phones.
 
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Aneres11

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Surely that makes it easier to compare things like camera performance between different phones.
No because it's a building in broad daylight (always sunny). So literally any phone is going to be able to deliver decent results in those conditions whether it's £1000 plus or £250. Also, they don't actually compare between devices. They just slap up the same photos of the same scenes for every single review. No comparisons, generally.

I mean, lots of people watch their videos so I am likely in the minority, but I find everything about their reviews an absolute snooze fest 😴.
 

JustAnExpat

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God I hate GSM Arena reviews. If I have to see a photo sample of that snail or the clock on that building one more time. Like get some creativity and start taking photos of something else!
You want a video sample? Hey, here's one of the same road we've done video samples of for the last 10 years!
Drives me insane.
I like it. It allows easy comparison between phones and cameras.
 

Aneres11

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I like it. It allows easy comparison between phones and cameras.
I wouldn't be going to the effort of loading multiple videos to see the same day time shots between cameras but if you like it, then that's good 😊 👍🏼
 

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Unfortunately for those in the U.S., the Xperia 1 VI won't officially be sold here. I wonder if this is a sign that Sony will be exiting the U.S. smartphone market in the near future. Sony smartphone sales overall have really been struggling.
Sony hasnt "officially" solf ANY of their phones in Noeth America since the Xperia 5 with carrier suport some 6 - 10yrs ago i believe.

Phones are too, and costly for this market and for some sumb reason Sony refuses to market theie phones globally. Almoat aa if their premium model is a feature of all the rest of theie tech spread out in various other products as a push for the entire smarthpone industry.

Camera's jyst about EVERY other phone manufacturer uses at least 1 iterarion of theie cameras since the by-gone era of fwature phones - we can thank the birth of CMOS and SonyEricsson partnership for that.

Battery life health and care - again. Fully absorbed by Google in Android OS some 12yrs ago. The industry has fully benefited with this knowledge yet the worls just doesnt know this.

Gaming on Android - with PlayStation Portable ans Go some 12yrs ago puahwd the industry to evolve games foe smartphones beyond laclluster angry birds garbage. Thank GOD!

Music! Playback controls, Hi-Fi quality and proper Over-The-Ear and True Wireless Earbuds. Aony was 1st woth wored headswts with Play, Pause, FWD/RWD, ans volume in Feature phones but late to Android with this (Apple's wired headphones bwat them by about a year), but BT wireless controls pushed the market further but somehow lacking full gesture controls with WF-1000XM5's.

Phone as hotspot. Some of us take this for granted but even before Wi-Fi was possible Sony's Bluetooth connection made data a lot faster than IrDA and very smooth kissing AT strings good-bye forever over 18yrs ago! Again partnership with Ericsson helped with this along with Ericsson creating Bluetooth.

Id like to see Sony co.e back with a serious Tablet whrre theie 4K screens can really shine ans be useful but not likely.
 

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Sony hasnt "officially" solf ANY of their phones in Noeth America since the Xperia 5 with carrier suport some 6 - 10yrs ago i believe.

Maybe not in Canada but Sony's U.S. site offers the Xperia I V which was introduced just last year. Sony authorized dealers in the U.S. also sell the phone.
 
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super chimp

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No because it's a building in broad daylight (always sunny). So literally any phone is going to be able to deliver decent results in those conditions whether it's £1000 plus or £250. Also, they don't actually compare between devices. They just slap up the same photos of the same scenes for every single review. No comparisons, generally.

I mean, lots of people watch their videos so I am likely in the minority, but I find everything about their reviews an absolute snooze fest .

They do actually do comparisons on their websites between certain devices, and you can tell the differences between shots as in spite of your claims they aren’t always that great in good light.
 

Aneres11

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They do actually do comparisons on their websites between certain devices, and you can tell the differences between shots as in spite of your claims they aren’t always that great in good light.
Must be fun to pixel peep!
 

Aneres11

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I picked up an Xperia 1 VI however I have just sent it off as a return this morning.

Nice phone. Camera is an issue.
When I had the 5 V earlier in the year I really liked the main sensor and felt like I captured sharper pictures with it. That phone is a chunk cheaper than a 1 VI and arguably, it's not worth it for a telephoto camera that is pretty bad.
All the images from it are hazy and soft and for this price point it's just not good enough.

The new design is very welcome, however, and the "downgrade" of the screen is not noticeable. If anything it's an upgrade from a brightness perspective as it is visible outdoors now. A first for Sony!

Ultimately, really difficult to justify this one. And I'm a Sony Xperia fan.

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robvalentine

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I actually like that they forgoed a notch/camera cutout, it's a shame that for a company priding themselves on professional cameras, this falls short in that department. Again. I had the xperia 1 small version (I forget which iteration it was) back in 2020 and camera was sub par sadly
 
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