sony honami

[Cod3rror]

Just a quick note: your example shots are inherently flawed and, consequently, can't really show the quality difference between the two cameras.

In them, all of the 808 shots are underexposed compared to those of the 1020.

1, underexposing will always mean less highlight clipping - exactly the one thing you're mentioning as clearly worse with the 1020 than with the 808

2, you can dial in a constant, say, -2/3 under-exposing (exposure compensation) with the 1020 too. (After all, they aren't iPhones - my entire article dedicated to iOS exposure compensation is HERE.) Then, assuming similar exposure, the dynamic range of the two cameras will be approximately the same - as is easy to conclude based on other tests.

What about aliasing, grain and noise with 1020 though? Drag the image into a new tab and have a look at it at 100% zoom, especially on window frames, 808 is much smoother and shows more detail.

That's an excellent tutorial you posted, thanks! I'll read it.

 

[Menneisyys2]

What about aliasing, grain and noise with 1020 though?

Yup, noise-wise, the 808 is definitely better. The 5 Mpixel downsampling mode of the 1020 also sucks.

I really hope the latter will be fixed, along with adding settable sharpness / color saturation (those can be fixed, as opposed to noise). Otherwise, I'll stick with the 808.

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That's an excellent tutorial you posted, thanks! I'll read it.

Thanks A lot more iOS camera material (HDR, pano etc.) will follow.

 

[Menneisyys2]

BTW, according to the latest rumors, the Honami will indeed have 4k video recording at 30 fps, thanks to the Snapdragon 800. And it’s also rumored to have OIS.

http://www.android.gs/sony-xperia-honami-4k/

Decisions, decisions… too bad the LG G2, albeit based on the same chipset, doesn’t (seem to) support 4k. It’d be a better overall device (and cheaper too).

 

[Cod3rror]

BTW, according to the latest rumors, the Honami will indeed have 4k video recording at 30 fps, thanks to the Snapdragon 800. And it’s also rumored to have OIS.

http://www.android.gs/sony-xperia-honami-4k/

Decisions, decisions… too bad the LG G2, albeit based on the same chipset, doesn’t (seem to) support 4k. It’d be a better overall device (and cheaper too).

The only reason Sony is doing 4K is because of their TVs. There is no real reason for 4K at all and it is useless without H.265 encoding, without USB 3.0 to quickly transfer videos and with only 16GB of onboard storage. Any old 720p camera will beat a 1080p capable smartphone camera, a smartphone video footage is always so easy to spot, dropped frames, jittery, shaky, etc.. They should not increase the resolution, they should work on making videos better.

I also doubt the presence of OIS, it hasn't been mentioned anywhere.

 

[danakin]

For what it's worth it looks like the phone will be called Xperia Z1

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_honami_press_shot_leaks_to_be_called_xperia_z1-news-6614.php

 

[Menneisyys2]

The only reason Sony is doing 4K is because of their TVs. There is no real reason for 4K at all and it is useless without H.265 encoding, without USB 3.0 to quickly transfer videos and with only 16GB of onboard storage. Any old 720p camera will beat a 1080p capable smartphone camera, a smartphone video footage is always so easy to spot, dropped frames, jittery, shaky, etc..

Let me disagree. I've made tons of very thorough camera tests, mostly with iDevices, and have found their cameras, starting with the iPhone 4, to be excellent, framedrop-, lack of moire/aliasing- and resolution-wise when it comes to video. (Of course, DR, noise etc. are a diffeerent question.)

I'd state even the opposite is true, that is, recent smartphones deliver much better-detailed footage than most P&S / DSLR cameras out there.

They should not increase the resolution, they should work on making videos better.

I also doubt the presence of OIS, it hasn't been mentioned anywhere.

If that thing indeed has both OIS and decent (!!!!) 4k recording (one that indeed records effectively 4k worth of detail - not just a blown-up mess) and in other terms also comparable to the LG G2, I may go for it and not the G2.

 

[Wrathwitch]

I am most interested in the possibility of the Honami mini!!!