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Good grief. How do you people expect a MacBook Air to compete with a Z when it is half the thickness? You do realize that severely limits what GPU and CPU you can use due to heat issues in thinner cases, not to mention reduced component sizes, right? I'm guessing not otherwise there wouldn't be so many ridiculous comments about it. If you're going to compare the Z to something it should be the 13" MacBook Pro not the MacBook Air. :rolleyes:
 

colourfastt

macrumors 65816
Apr 7, 2009
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Good grief. How do you people expect a MacBook Air to compete with a Z when it is half the thickness? You do realize that severely limits what GPU and CPU you can use due to heat issues in thinner cases, not to mention reduced component sizes, right? I'm guessing not otherwise there wouldn't be so many ridiculous comments about it. If you're going to compare the Z to something it should be the 13" MacBook Pro not the MacBook Air. :rolleyes:

Spec whores from the PC side of the world chasing specifications rather than analysing whether or not the computer can perform the tasks needed.
 

Maven1975

macrumors 65816
Aug 24, 2008
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...why isn't the Sony Z coupled with a PS3?...

The deal is at the Microsoft store. They sell xBox's. If you buy a computer $1000 or more, you get a free xBox. $1000 or less, you get a free Zune.

Also, Sony has a trade up program that allows you to send in an old laptop and receive $300 for it.

So.. it looks like this.

1499 - 10% = 1350
1350 - $200 for the xBox = 1150
1150 - $300 for the Sony rebate = $850

Say what you want about spec whores and PC users. Good luck finding specs like this for $850.

I would like to see an awesome MBA revision. I fully intend on buying it. But ignoring the other 90% of the computer world and acting like their OS/Hardware cant get the job done is just silly.

Just get the Vaio, then sell it for a profit. This way you will be able to buy the Air that much easier.

Peace and hair grease!
 

gwsat

macrumors 68000
Apr 12, 2008
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Good grief. How do you people expect a MacBook Air to compete with a Z when it is half the thickness? You do realize that severely limits what GPU and CPU you can use due to heat issues in thinner cases, not to mention reduced component sizes, right? I'm guessing not otherwise there wouldn't be so many ridiculous comments about it. If you're going to compare the Z to something it should be the 13" MacBook Pro not the MacBook Air. :rolleyes:
"Ridiculous?" Get a grip partner. It seems to me that no one said anything that should offend you. Is there some immutable law of nature that would require a redesigned MBA to be as thin as the current version is? If so, I must have overlooked it. As long as a redesigned MBA would still weigh only 3 pounds and provide the same small footprint it does now I, for one would happily accept a thicker version that would accommodate slots for RAM modules and a discrete GPU. The current MBA is obsolescent at best and fast becoming obsolete. Apple is going to have to rethink the MBA concept or allow it to die, at least it seems so to me and a number of others who post here.
 

gwsat

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Apr 12, 2008
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Excellent post!

I'm with you, I really like my macs, especially the cornerstone of my work life my 15" mid 2010 Core i7 MacBook Pro... :)
That's a good point. Despite my having given up on the MBA in its current iteration, I am not ready to shift to a Windows machine, either. For the moment at least, my old Santa Rosa MBP with 6Gb of RAM handles Windows apps under VMware Fusion in Unity mode just fine. No Windows machine, regardless of its gee whiz features can do that. If the MBA is discontinued or is given another halfhearted update, I'll probably get a 13 inch MBP, up its RAM to 8Gb, and add a 256 or 512Gb SSD.
 

Mike225

macrumors 6502a
Jul 15, 2010
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SF BAY
That's a good point. Despite my having given up on the MBA in its current iteration, I am not ready to shift to a Windows machine, either. For the moment at least, my old Santa Rosa MBP with 6Gb of RAM handles Windows apps under VMware Fusion in Unity mode just fine. No Windows machine, regardless of its gee whiz features can do that. If the MBA is discontinued or is given another halfhearted update, I'll probably get a 13 inch MBP, up its RAM to 8Gb, and add a 256 or 512Gb SSD.

I can set up a Windows virtual machine on my Windows machine with gee whiz features....
 

ditosou

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Jan 27, 2010
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Macbook Touch!

The MacObserver site has an interesting Editorial article (8 Oct.) "Expect iPad Technologies in Next MacBook Air" (2h00 PM) about the possibility of a MacBook Touch in the next MBA refresh... more than the "possible" name it includes very interesting points/discussion about possible add ons on the new model...
 

gwsat

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Apr 12, 2008
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I can set up a Windows virtual machine on my Windows machine with gee whiz features....
I want computers and software that work right out of the box. A dual boot setup, such as Bootcamp, is of no interest to me. No Windows machine or commercial software for it that I know about will let me run Windows and OS X apps in tandem. So far VMware Fusion or Parallels running on Macs seem to be the only game in town for that sort of thing.
 

Adidas Addict

macrumors 65816
Sep 9, 2008
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England
The MacObserver site has an interesting Editorial article (8 Oct.) "Expect iPad Technologies in Next MacBook Air" (2h00 PM) about the possibility of a MacBook Touch in the next MBA refresh... more than the "possible" name it includes very interesting points/discussion about possible add ons on the new model...

Jesus, you've posted this in every single thread I've looked in:p
 

Mike225

macrumors 6502a
Jul 15, 2010
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SF BAY
I want computers and software that work right out of the box. A dual boot setup, such as Bootcamp, is of no interest to me. No Windows machine or commercial software for it that I know about will let me run Windows and OS X apps in tandem. So far VMware Fusion or Parallels running on Macs seem to be the only game in town for that sort of thing.

Why would a Windows user need to run OS X in tandem with Windows? I havent ever needed OS X/Mac OS in my 17 years of using a computer. Yet today the people in my Materials Engineering class were told they needed to run Windows to use the required software. (CES Selector)
 

gwsat

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Apr 12, 2008
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Why would a Windows user need to run OS X in tandem with Windows? I havent ever needed OS X/Mac OS in my 17 years of using a computer. Yet today the people in my Materials Engineering class were told they needed to run Windows to use the required software. (CES Selector)
That's a fair question. I came to Macs from the Windows world in 2003. Before that I had run Windows ever since there was a Windows. My bookkeeping program is Quicken for Windows, which I use several times a day. Unfortunately, the OS X version is a crippled imitation of the Windows version. Thus, I stuck with Quicken for Windows, even when I had to run it from my home Windows desktop. It was a major pain. Getting a MBP and its Intel CPU was like being let out of jail, especially after I upgraded its RAM to 6Gb. Now, I leave Quicken open on the OS X desktop all the time, just as I do OS X apps such as Mail, Contacts, and Calendar. On top of that, I have used WordPerfect for Windows as my word processing app for many years. I have thousands of documents and dozens of forms for it that would have required a huge amount of work to convert to Word format. With that explanation, I trust you will trust me when I say that I really do need to run Windows apps from the OS X desktop in tandem with OS X apps.
 

FuNGi

macrumors 65816
Feb 26, 2010
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That's a fair question. I came to Macs from the Windows world in 2003. Before that I had run Windows ever since there was a Windows. My bookkeeping program is Quicken for Windows, which I use several times a day. Unfortunately, the OS X version is a crippled imitation of the Windows version. Thus, I stuck with Quicken for Windows, even when I had to run it from my home Windows desktop. It was a major pain. Getting a MBP and its Intel CPU was like being let out of jail, especially after I upgraded its RAM to 6Gb. Now, I leave Quicken open on the OS X desktop all the time, just as I do OS X apps such as Mail, Contacts, and Calendar. On top of that, I have used WordPerfect for Windows as my word processing app for many years. I have thousands of documents and dozens of forms for it that would have required a huge amount of work to convert to Word format. With that explanation, I trust you will trust me when I say that I really do need to run Windows apps from the OS X desktop in tandem with OS X apps.

Hey GWSAT, i realize the virtues of wanting and using OSX and needing to run Windows programs. I think the previous poster was saying this is generally a one way street. Seldom do Windows users need to use an OSX application in particular so an OSX emulator is not only illegal but generally undesired.
ON a side note, how is running 6 GB? I've heard uneven pairing of RAM is undesirable but that is my only option on the first gen unibody I'm using. I never run Fusion or Parallels, which I know is your major reason for needing the extra, but I often have two browsers, itunes, Word, Excel, Powerpoint, Preview, Papers, a graphing program, and a statistical program open for days and days. Would 6 help over 4 for these?
 

gwsat

macrumors 68000
Apr 12, 2008
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Hey GWSAT, i realize the virtues of wanting and using OSX and needing to run Windows programs. I think the previous poster was saying this is generally a one way street. Seldom do Windows users need to use an OSX application in particular so an OSX emulator is not only illegal but generally undesired.
ON a side note, how is running 6 GB? I've heard uneven pairing of RAM is undesirable but that is my only option on the first gen unibody I'm using. I never run Fusion or Parallels, which I know is your major reason for needing the extra, but I often have two browsers, itunes, Word, Excel, Powerpoint, Preview, Papers, a graphing program, and a statistical program open for days and days. Would 6 help over 4 for these?
I hadn't even thought about the fact that using an OS X emulator in a non Apple machine is, indeed, illegal.

When I had only 2Gb of RAM in my MBP, Windows apps running under Fusion were slow at best and unstable at worst. Ever since I upgraded to 6Gb, though, I have had no trouble running Windows apps in tandem with OS X apps. I customarily leave Quicken for Windows, Contacts, Mail, Calendar, and Google Chrome open on my desktop. I frequently also use WordPerfect for Windows or Excel with the other apps that I leave running all the time. All run speedily and reliably.

Modern Macs have no problem running different amounts of RAM in one RAM slot than is installed in the other slot. Nevertheless, the only reason I upgraded to 6Gb of RAM instead of 8 is that Santa Rosa MBPs like mine can't reliably accommodate more than 6Gb of RAM.
 
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