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Soooo, Where's The Blu-ray?
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Via HDMI to the reciever. Exactly the same way both my DVR and
tv are hooked up.
Priceless.
Do you actually really believe this load of bollocks your're preaching here?
Blu-Ray hasn't even caught up with HD DVD when it comes to features, let alone the sales of the gazillion-dollar DVD market. You truly don't know anything about this whole story if you weren't joking.
Also apparently you don't even understand that AppleTV+iTMS is exactly the reason Apple is not in a hurry to include Blu-Ray drives in its machines - if you will buy your movies on iTunes, it'll make money for Jobs while Blu-Ray won't.
Via HDMI to the reciever. Exactly the same way both my DVR and
I have a similiar setup, and will say the PS3 upscales very well. But it still can't compete w/ a top tier BR movie
Priceless.
Do you actually really believe this load of bollocks your're preaching here?
You truly don't know anything about this whole story if you weren't joking.
Also apparently you don't even understand that AppleTV+iTMS is exactly the reason Apple is not in a hurry to include Blu-Ray drives in its machines - if you will buy your movies on iTunes, it'll make money for Jobs while Blu-Ray won't.
i'll make a bet that by the end of the year more and more new released apple products will have BR option
I bet they will as well. BR is not just a playback technology. Those of us who use our Macs professionally are waiting for Blu-Ray as a data back-up option, and, for those in the video production field, authoring of BR discs.
Any real professional I know use tape including myself (LTO3). Blu-Ray is completely unproven, unmmature and way too sensitive for backup.
Can't imagine anyone would trust it for critical backups or even archives except enthusiastic home users.
Priceless.
Do you actually really believe this load of bollocks your're preaching here?
You truly don't know anything about this whole story if you weren't joking.
Also apparently you don't even understand that AppleTV+iTMS is exactly the reason Apple is not in a hurry to include Blu-Ray drives in its machines - if you will buy your movies on iTunes, it'll make money for Jobs while Blu-Ray won't.
Yea, I put in "Casino Royale" and my PS3 asked again, "Some BD movies may REQUIRE an Internet connection for playback, do you want to enable?"
I did just to get the stupid warning to stop.
WOW - "Casino Royale" is absolutely stunning. I have a bunch of stunning HD DVD's too!
I just can't imagine paying again and again to watch these over and over.
At least, MGM listened to my request and they are releasing "Stargate: Continuum" on Blu-ray as well as DVD!
I dont like Apples economic model for HD video rentals, either. Theres something profoundly distasteful about having to pay Apple $4.99 to rent an HD movie and then get only 24 hours after I start to play it back to watch the thing.
I rented a few HD movies from Apple immediately after I got my Apple TV but have shifted to using Handbrake to rip conventional DVDs and copy the resulting MP4 files to iTunes and my Apple TV. They dont look quite as good as HD, of course, but they look very good and sound the same. In short, it seems to me that Apples HD movie rentals arent cost effective yet.
Your last sentence got me thinking. Previous to this I said I'd always prefer to own the media. But hmmm. If they got the price per view down to something so trivial I wouldn't even think about it, say $0.99. Then I actually think I'd prefer pay per view to having to deal with having the media on site. That might even outweigh the issues with not always having the title I want right away. Another option that might sway me is a subscription. Watch any movie I want any time I want as many times as I want for $50 a month. I'd pay that.
Not likely, but I can dream.
Just when I start to think I could live with a download solution I remember why I don't trust them. If I buy a disc they can't change the terms later. I know what I'm getting. If I have a download solution they can jack the price or yank the content at their whim. And their whims prove all to often to be ridiculous.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/471982/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/471982/
One thing to keep in mind: It's not Apple's model. The content owners have imposed these rental terms on Apple and Apple had to bend to get the content.
The rental terms that Apple has are pretty much standard across for the board for any video on demand type of rentals. It's the same for Cable, and DirecTV has just recently announced they are changing the terms of their pay-per-views as well because of the demands of the content providers.
I agree that I think a 24 hour viewing window is a little short for some people, but for now, the content providers are setting the rules for downloadable and recordable and VOD rentals. And until they get their heads out of their behinds and stop panicking over honest people watching their content we're going to have to deal with this kind of thing.
Regards,
Michael
What they don't seem to get, and the music industry is the same is that what they are doing is causing more piracy than it's preventing. By making it such a pain / expense to get legitimately people can pirate it with LESS effort. Charge me $0.99 a movie or $50 a month and make it easy to access the content, and you'll make a ton more off me than you do today.
Indeed. Although I'm not sure I agree 100% that the DRM causes more piracy than it prevents you are certainly correct that by making it a hassle to view their content how we want to view it the content providers are losing potential sales or rentals.
Regards,
Michael
Regards,
Michael
An even better model would be to charge both a subscription and a per-view fee. Charge me $30 a month for the service, then charge me per view based on some other basis. $0.50 for Deathrace 2000 that's 20 years old and nobody watches, and $4.00 for the movie that just came out of the theaters last month. Or scale it based on how often it's viewed. You know, supply and demand? Nobody watches Deathrace 2000, so it's cheap, everyone wants to see Pirates of the Carribean the second it's available so charge more.
Or another alternative would be to charge me less for each subsequent view. If my kids watch Charlotte's Web 50 times the last 40 only cost me a dime.
There is a million ways to make it work. But until they figure out a way I'll be keeping the media under my control as long as I can.
Or another alternative would be to charge me less for each subsequent view. If my kids watch Charlotte's Web 50 times the last 40 only cost me a dime.
There is a million ways to make it work. But until they figure out a way I'll be keeping the media under my control as long as I can.
I wasn't going to reply to this, but since the thread seems to be dead, why not?!
Here goes:
By tape I assume you are referring to DLT. DLT is an old and atiquated backup medium. Archiving on Blu-Ray data DVD is the future. I've been in the business for many years and have seen many technologies come and go. As an active member of the video production community, I can tell you that I am not alone in this. I've heard from other colleagues that are looking to Blu-Ray for data archiving.
To say that Blu-Ray is unproven is true, but a bit short-sighted. Blu-Ray needs to be explored as an archive medium before it can be dismissed as one. Optical media has been more reliable and convenient in the long run (in my opinion) than the various tape formats. I'm sure this is why many PC makers are including Blu-Ray as an option on their PC's. Come on Apple, it's your turn.
At the Sony store, they have split screen setups to compare regular DVDs and Blu-Ray for the exact same scene at the same time. Despite the large screen and the short viewing distance, the difference in quality was not huge. Yes, I could see the difference, but it was not worth shelling out $400 for a player that will be obsolete by the end of the year.Via HDMI to the reciever. Exactly the same way both my DVR and
Besides, a lot of movies seem to be captured by cameras that has too much noise (not enough sensitivity.) I remember Spiderman 3 or Queen for example (watched on my friend's PS3 on a Sony 11080P TV.) The darker indoor scenes had noticeable noise (over walls etc.), which is actually a lot more distracting than the general softness at DVD resolution. CGI scenes may look better, as the computers can define the color of every pixel, so there would not be any noise, but of course a lot of movies overuse CGI, so the scenes look like they are taken from a video game rather than the picture of something real.
I agree. Tape is the wave of the past for backups it seems to me. I bought a state-of-the-art clone PC in the late 80s or early 90s. Among the other cutting edge features it had was a tape backup. All went well until the hard drive failed and I discovered that the tapes I had used to backup my data had become defective. Thus, my data was lost. Never again!
You know, in the age of Wikipedia it's extremely embarrassing to 'assume' something instead of learning it then building up a whole reasoning on it and finally turning out to be completely wrong, thanks to being lazy and clueless.
Here's your daily link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_Tape-Open
Feel free to edit your original post after reading it...
Once again, nobody was talking about punny end-user backups by people who usually don't even know exisiting tape backup technology and revert to 'assuming' or decades-old recollections...
You know, in the age of Wikipedia it's extremely embarrassing to 'assume' something instead of learning it then building up a whole reasoning on it and finally turning out to be completely wrong, thanks to being lazy and clueless.
Here's your daily link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_Tape-Open
Feel free to edit your original post after reading it...
Nope, don't think I'll be revising anything. This media is as useless as DLT was for day to day backup of video production assets. It'll probably go the way of DLT as well. It's fatal flaw is even stated in it's name: "LINEAR Tape-Open". Blu-Ray as a data storage media (or even regular DVD) is more useful to me as it provides random access to my files, is a cheap and easily obtainable media and is (or will be in the case of Blu-Ray) built in, standard, to my production machine.
And no closed captioning/subtitles. This should be technically easy - they already have all the work done on DVD subtitles and closed captioning, why don't they just include it in digital downloads?