macOS Soul searching

[zippyfly]

Agree with both of you. I wonder if we should move this to a new thread (e.g., "Why !java") but in any event:

I agree on the crappy GUI and crazy acronym creep.

But what about the middleware "business logic" stuff? Isn't there a huge (?) economy based around that? I think that might take a while to go away (if ever) but the logic can probably be ported to ObjC efficiently.

I agree ObjC has a far more elegant syntax than Java but the latter has a pretty clear syntax (compare versus the somewhat confusing pointers v. objects hurdle that took me a while to cross).

But having said that, I am happy to see the world move forward to ObjC and end of life both C++ and Java. I am grateful to Java for helping me understand OOP (with single inheritance) but I also feel strongly that the end is near for the other two languages and ObjC is the wave of the future.

Surprisingly it sort of parallels the Mac/NS and Apple/NeXT, coming back from the past to take the world by storm.

 

[timmyv]

Unfortunately thats just not the way things work.
Most of the things you just mentioned only happen in the movies.
7 years is not "paying your dues" for my department.
there are officers that have been on 15 years and still work nights still work patrol and still deal with street level crimes.
To get out of patrol it takes seniority, to get into the detective bureau( which might I add is not a promotion) takes seniority, to get into the crime scene unit takes seniority. Our crime scene unit takes polaroid photos still and uses audio tapes to record interviews. Most departments are not that high tech. yet and really are still 20 years behind. I appreciate the suggestions, I really do.

 

[RedTomato]

Unfortunately thats just not the way things work.
Most of the things you just mentioned only happen in the movies.
7 years is not "paying your dues" for my department.
there are officers that have been on 15 years and still work nights still work patrol and still deal with street level crimes.
To get out of patrol it takes seniority, to get into the detective bureau( which might I add is not a promotion) takes seniority, to get into the crime scene unit takes seniority. Our crime scene unit takes polaroid photos still and uses audio tapes to record interviews. Most departments are not that high tech. yet and really are still 20 years behind. I appreciate the suggestions, I really do.

What about the units that need specialist outside training? Data forensics, which I just mentioned, surely the police won't hire someone with a computer science degree, and put them on the street for 15 years before letting them into the forensics dept? What I'm suggesting is that you look at the units that *don't* usually take officers from the street, the units that are open to direct entry from graduates and other outside people.

Sidepoint:

You mentioned polaroids and audio tapes - from a technology viewpoint, these are pretty good for the job and don't need updating. The most important thing here is that they're hard to falsify and hard to change after creation, and that it's easy for a judge and jury to see so. (and they last a long time so they can be reviewed after 10 years)

Digital photos and digital audio recordings, while easier to store short term, are also easier to change after creation, it's harder to prove they are unamended, and harder to explain that to a judge, and after 10-20 years, the format/playback software may no longer be in common use.