Do you realize you are the only guy on here that claims it stays on all night? "MY" problem? It's the same problem everyone else on here is complaining about.
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Standby "Aways On" in iOS 17.1 forces Night Mode
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Actually some of the third party do dim automatically. I'm using one now, I just need to set a shortcut for it (which I wouldn't have to do if Apple would make their own app work like promised). You guys are ragging on me like I'm the only guy on here that's complaining about the problem. Ease up and read the whole forum and you'll see a lot of guys complaining about the same problems.
How can you be happy as it is? The AOD still isn't working for most people.
Plenty of folks report that it unfortunately does not actually stay on so it’s not just his problem.
It’s working for me. When I go to sleep it’s still on even though it’s in Sleep Focus. And when I wake up it’s on.
I didn’t try waking up every half hour to check it of course. I’m sure Apple will have algorithms to turn it off periodically to prevent burn-in. You wouldn’t want your expensive phone screen to go bad after a couple of years because you’re having a nice night stand clock, would you?
To be on for 12 hours straight is a recipe for disaster for OLED screen.
The crux of it is it’s on for me and didn’t go off on me. That’s why I’m quite happy.
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Just for clarity the AOD (Always On Display) and StandBy are two different things. This thread is about StandBy and the specific new setting for StandBy that was released as part of iOS 17.1 which is “Turn Display Off - NEVER“ which unfortunately still allows StandBy to turn off even though ensuring that it never turns off is the reason it was added.
AOD and its issues are documented and discussed in several other threads. AOD itself does also have issues and unfortunately even though it is called “Always On Display” Apple itself documents that there are several scenarios where it is in fact designed to turn off. But there is actually a setting for it that you can use to make sure it is always off. So at best it is an Always On Display that you can set to be never on but actually can’t set to be ALWAYS ON…as funny as that seems.
It’s the same thing when Stand By is on 12 hours straight because guess what.. your phone screen is still OLED.
Sorry it’s two different features. StandBy can only be enabled when your iPhone is charging and is horizontal. AOD has been around for some time (for completeness it was introduced with the iPhone 14). StandBy was just added as part of iOS 16.2.
It doesn’t matter at all if it’s 2 different features When they still using the same screen: OLED.
Well then I suppose any conversation about any app is also about AOD since they all use the OLED display…🤣
I’m confused. Are you saying that when Stand By is on a whole night it has no effect on OLED burn-in?
The discussion in this thread is about StandBy and the specific new setting for StandBy that was released as part of iOS 17.1 which is “Turn Display Off - NEVER“ which unfortunately still allows StandBy to turn off even though ensuring that it never turns off is the reason it was added. It was Apple that added that feature, called it what they did, and described what is was designed to do which is to allow the end user to set the StandBy screen to NEVER turn off. And it currently does not work as designed. And that is what we are reporting and talking about. Seems fairly clear to me.
I'm kind of "happy" that more people are annoyed with this, I hope you send this feedback to Apple. Why won't they let us decide for ourselves if I want to use nightmode or not.. I was very hyped when the iPhone14Pro was released with the AOD so I could replace my alarmclock-app but it's still not working as I thought with the 15pro.. In theory it can't be that many lines of code to fix to disable this "force nightmode" so I hope they change their minds soon.
Welp since the new StandBy setting “Turn Display Off - NEVER“ does not work and the StandBy display still turns off I’ll be going back to my nightstand clock app…which does stay on all night and lets you pick the colors you like. Maybe in some future release Apple will add a new StandBy setting - “Turn Display Off - NEVER, AND WE REALLY MEAN IT THIS TIME”, that actually works…🤣
I am confused as to what point you are trying to make. You express concern about OLED burn-in, yet you are happy your display stays on? I think you just like to argue.
If you are not experiencing the issue of the display turning off, good for you. Enjoy. Wish we could all say the same.
It has to be on when it matters, not OFF when I turned away like in 16.0 or when it's in Sleep Mode which is 3/4 of my night. THAT will be useless.
It also has to be off from time to time to prevent OLED burn-in.
These 2 don't contradict each others as long as it intelligently know when to turn off (don't turn off when I'm awake please), which in 16.0 it didn't know. I always advocate for Stand By to be always on. You can check my post history. That doesn't mean I think screen being on a whole night is a good idea. It can't be all or nothing like some people here want. We're not in microLED era yet.
And from my experience so far, it is perfect. (I even woke up in the middle of the night last night and it's still on)
Btw, the 2nd clock face is very big and should be great for anyone thinking red tint is hard to see.
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Problem is StandBy is currently not always on, even if you select “Turn Display Off - NEVER” which IMO is a bug. No matter how you rationalize it or what the reason is, if I turn that setting on the StandBy display should NEVER turn off.
Same issue here! "Never" doesn't mean never. I have pretty nice Belkin MagSafe nightstand charger. I have an iPhone 14 Pro. Most nights, it stays on all night. Seems that about 1 out of 3 nights it turns the display off. The interesting thing is, I can still give it "Siri" commands and it responds with the Siri animation appearing where it would be expected in the horizontal orientation. The only way to turn the screen back on while still in horizontal orientation on the charger stand is to gently touch the screen. Waving my hands like a crazy person and other motion does NOT turn it back on like the "Automatically" setting in 17.0 did. So frustrated that "Never" doesn't really mean "never" to Apple.
As far as I’m aware, there haven’t been a lot of studies on the topic. Personally, I have strong doubts red light is a benefit per se. Rather, there seems more logic and science the wavelengths perceived as red are less harmful during the night (i.e., period are bodies expect to be sleeping).
I haven’t been using Standby for long though it has worked as expected, always on and Night Mode when the room/area is dark. Additionally, I too am using a Belkin MagSafe charger.
P.S. In that light and closeness, my case/phone looks very dirty already. Sigh.
Where is a wire to the charger?
I’m on vacation for 4 nights and I have to bring my night stand clock with me. 😀 My phone stays like this a whole night now. (Turns red when light off of course)
Was this only in 17.1 as per the thread's title? Are you also seeing this in 17.2 ?
IP 15 pro, running 17.3.1. No focus modes selected at night. Standby settings selected as display never off.
I have tried x3 different stands : anker, spigen and Belkin …. Only the belkin chargeboost WIZ010ttWH has worked for me in giving consistent display staying on throughout the night…. belkin is the only device of the three to have a dedicated power cable and transformer (the anker and spigen had usbC inputs) . So I believe this issue to be charger related and more specifically something to do with how the chargers are supplying consistent current.
I have tried x3 different stands : anker, spigen and Belkin …. Only the belkin chargeboost WIZ010ttWH has worked for me in giving consistent display staying on throughout the night…. belkin is the only device of the three to have a dedicated power cable and transformer (the anker and spigen had usbC inputs) . So I believe this issue to be charger related and more specifically something to do with how the chargers are supplying consistent current.