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Starcraft 2 split

I just wish we could squeeze a few things out of Blizzard, like the price of these extra packs, release date windows, anything.

I'm a SC addict. I'd love to know when a beta will be coming out, etc.
 
ksb43 said:
QUOTE=evilgEEk;6429858]couldn't care less.

If you want to be technical, I could in fact care less, so I'll stick with what I said. Thanks, everyone loves to be corrected.
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Then it's not as bad as it could be. I'm glad I could help you come to this milestone of a realization.

/sarcastic curtsy
 
Yeah i've heard about this! This sucks so much, they just want to make more and more money off the same game! People are concerned on how SC2 is going to be so different from SC1. i say that if S.Koreans don't like it and don't make the switch then SC2 isn't going to get very far.
 
Wow...

Ok, I'm going to try to clarify some things here, though I know with many persistent angry forum-goers, they can never be persuaded. First of all I'm typing this on my iPhone, so I apologize for the lack of links.

Also, I am an avid Starcraft follower and I am a forum moderator at a Starcraft 2 Forum, so most of my information is accurate.

First of all, Starcraft is, as you know, being released into three parts. Second, Bnet is NOT charging. At least, currently, they don't have plans to charge. This may change in the future, but it makes no sense to flame Blizzard over a rumor and a possibility.

Also, currently it would seem as if the first installment will be the main one, with the second and third to be Expansion packs. The Terran -> Zerg -> Protoss. The multiplayer will be included in the first with all three races and WILL BE UPDATED every expansion pack - for free - it would seem. The expansion pack will include a spanking new campaign with all the new features integrated in. As a side note, while the campaigns will be primarily focused on one race, there will be other races thrown in.

Finally, for the price issue, the first pack seems to be the one costing the most, with the other three acting more like an expansion, but costing more than a real expansion pack. This is due to the new single-player gameplay being added to each race. The new Terran single-player system that we have seen will NOT be the samw for the Zerg and the Protoss. I don't know what, but it seems that they will not incorporate buying units like the Terran Campaign and choosing your missions. They definitely might offer the same capabilities, but Blizzard will present it from a different fasion. For example, SC1 had three liner campaigns that were the same with the debriefing room skin changed and different voices/words. SC2 won't have a Zerg themed Terran briefing room. It will be completely different. One last nte is that each campaign has complete endings that will satisfy you.

As such, I believe, as many attenders of Blizzcon believe, that this radical change is extremely wise and Blizzard has made a fantastic decision.
 
maplestar said:
Also, currently it would seem as if the first installment will be the main one, with the second and third to be Expansion packs. The Terran -> Zerg -> Protoss. The multiplayer will be included in the first with all three races and WILL BE UPDATED every expansion pack - for free - it would seem. The expansion pack will include a spanking new campaign with all the new features integrated in. As a side note, while the campaigns will be primarily focused on one race, there will be other races thrown in.

Finally, for the price issue, the first pack seems to be the one costing the most, with the other three acting more like an expansion, but costing more than a real expansion pack. This is due to the new single-player gameplay being added to each race. The new Terran single-player system that we have seen will NOT be the samw for the Zerg and the Protoss. I don't know what, but it seems that they will not incorporate buying units like the Terran Campaign and choosing your missions. They definitely might offer the same capabilities, but Blizzard will present it from a different fasion. For example, SC1 had three liner campaigns that were the same with the debriefing room skin changed and different voices/words. SC2 won't have a Zerg themed Terran briefing room. It will be completely different. One last nte is that each campaign has complete endings that will satisfy you.
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If the later 2 "expansion" cost less than the first one, I would think some features would be missing, most critically I think it will be the multi-player (B-net?) feature. If this were true, a player wanting to play protoss with multi-player will definitely be paying more than a player wanting to play terran with multi-player.

However, if all were to contain multiplaying feature with all 3 races, they would open another can of worms where players coming in late will be paying less than the early birds (this pt is impt because specifically SC has always been popular due to it's online play)

This made me believe that all 3 should cost the same. However, it's all speculation, we will know more when Blizzard release more information.
 
After thinking about it more, I don't mind that it's split. But I do have a problem with the time. A year minimum!? Yikes.

I hope they offer a digital download.
 
Blizzard is one of the best game developers on the planet and strong supporters of the Mac platform. People who don't really know Blizzard may whine. Yes, it sucks to have a game spread out like that. But the company is quite skilled with what they do. They have never given anyone any reason to worry about the decisions they make. We can trust that splitting the game up like this is a good move.

Think about a movie analogy. The Lord of the Rings movies were spread out over three years, basically covering each book. Would Lord of the Rings have been as good if they tried to mash the three books into one, single movie? Maybe the Starcraft 2 storyline might be best served spread out along 3 volumes. Only, each volume would have a complete story instead of fragments. If it was fragmented, with cliffhangers, you would essentially be forced to buy all 3 volumes to get the full story. However, since each Starcraft 2 race will have a full story, you can choose to only buy one of them and not be left with fragments or cliffhangers. And each volume will have the full, multiplayer portion of the game.

Should they all be priced the same? Yes, why wouldn't they? You were expected to pay the full price with each Lord of the Rings movie...In fact, the price of tickets went up over those 3 years...so, you were technically paying more for the latter movies. The core Starcraft 2 engine is pretty much complete. All that's left is to write the story for the Zerg and Protoss campaigns, produce their cinematics, design their maps and some of the unique interfaces that those latter two will have (along with touching up, tweaking and finishing the Human campaign, which will be released first). Sure, Blizzard could have released all three at once when they finished all three stories. But then, you would be waiting years for them to finish it. Cranking out a well thought story and beautiful cinematics is not something that can be done quickly. Especially considering the quality and balance that Blizzard is known for.

Would you have seen the Lord of the Rings at the movies if it was a single movie, 7 and 1/2 hours long? Would people really have gone to see it they had to pay $30 for the entire thing, at once, instead of 3 installments at $10 each? I guarantee you that the answer would be "no" for the majority of people. Why, then, would that be different for Starcraft 2?

There are people who don't care about single-player campaigns/stories and only play multiplayer portions of games. You're set with how Blizzard is handling Starcraft 2...buy only one installment. You'll get the full multiplayer game with each. What if you only want to play one of the race's campaigns? Fine, buy only that specific race's installment. You get a full fledged and complete storyline of your chosen race without having to buy multiple installments to get the full story of that race (one of the benefits of the game not being fragmented, storywise). I think this is a bold and wise move for Blizzard. They are a great company and we should have faith in their decisions and abilities.

Now, there are people from Blizzard on this board. I wonder if they would ever chime in....
 
It sucks but not surpising that they are just after the money. You can expect the support to drop to Activisions standard one patch policy.

Please remember many of the people who made Blizzard a great company left them years ago and went and form ncsoft. That took a good part of the starcraft original team with them. Blizzard started going down hill when they went to WoW and that seemed to be all they focused on for years.
 
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News with very little information - check
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Cander said:
The internet checklist:

News with very little information - check
People make assumptions - check
People get panties in a wad over the assumptions - check
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Might like to point out some truths.

it already been announces that it would be 3 separate stand alone games.
Activion has a history of a one patch fix all policy.
All the main Blizzard personal left a long time ago and part of those people was the core of the original star craft team.
 
Rodimus Prime said:
Might like to point out some truths.

it already been announces that it would be 3 separate stand alone games.
Activion has a history of a one patch fix all policy.
All the main Blizzard personal left a long time ago and part of those people was the core of the original star craft team.
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Things that are not truths as no information has been given.

Pricing
Business model

That is what people are making assumptions about and flying off the handle.
 
Cander said:
Things that are not truths as no information has been given.

Pricing
Business model

That is what people are making assumptions about and flying off the handle.
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hate to break it to you but the first one of the slipt was announced by blizzard a long time ago.

Activision (current owners of Blizzard) have a long history of a one patch wonder policy. That is a fact.

The Blizzard personal leaving is a fact. They left and formed a company called ncsoft. The creators of Guild Wars.

All I post where things that are known facts and not working off hears say. Point 2 and 3 are from history and are known facts.
 
Rodimus Prime said:
hate to break it to you but the first one of the slipt was announced by blizzard a long time ago.

Activision (current owners of Blizzard) have a long history of a one patch wonder policy. That is a fact.

The Blizzard personal leaving is a fact. They left and formed a company called ncsoft. The creators of Guild Wars.

All I post where things that are known facts and not working off hears say. Point 2 and 3 are from history and are known facts.
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What do your facts have to do with pricing or business model? Activision's one patch policy and where old Blizzard employees are totally irrelevant to pricing and business model.
 
I for one in for the split

I understand why many are bitching about this, but I think for the long term franchise this will be good.

1. I can't wait for SC2. The game will get into my hands a year to 2 years earlier with the split.
2. This game is all about multiplayer for the majority of players. This is what most people are waiting for, not the campaigns.
3. As soon as this game is out, a thriving user made maps community will start, pushing the boundaries for the game. - blizzard will learn more about what players like or don't like much quicker.
4. Therefore the game will go through iterative design improvements. Every new installment will be based on what was learned and will therefore be perfected to a sheen when the final installment comes out.
5. We will then have a game that can be played for 10 plus years thats perfectly balanced - this is what's important.

Not just get the first one out please......
 
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