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Onimusha370

macrumors 65816
Aug 25, 2010
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I really don't care for the current macbook pro offerings from Apple. 13in is way to small of a screen, 16in is better but its waaaayyyy overpriced. I like my current 15in 2016 with the task bar, but the chip architecture can't support a browser with 80 tabs open on chrome. The battery last about 2 hours or less using chrome. I wish the 16in had a taskbar or at least a touchscreen. I think a more reasonable price for it would be $999. Apple is always disappointing but what other choice do we have?? They need to lower prices or step up their game.
I think a more reasonable price would actually be $299
 
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maflynn

macrumors Haswell
May 3, 2009
73,682
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Here's what 80 tabs looks like in chrome with the memory pressure being display (I just screen shot and pasted the activity monitor below the chrome screen shot)

I'm just putting it out there that its down right impossible to actually consider this useful, but with that said, I'm not seeing any issues with my 14" MBP though admittedly the tabs are empty. I wasn't about to open 80 sites and I'm sure that would have increased the resource usage
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Nicole1980

Suspended
Mar 19, 2010
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Here's what 80 tabs looks like in chrome with the memory pressure being display (I just screen shot and pasted the activity monitor below the chrome screen shot)

I'm just putting it out there that its down right impossible to actually consider this useful, but with that said, I'm not seeing any issues with my 14" MBP though admittedly the tabs are empty. I wasn't about to open 80 sites and I'm sure that would have increased the resource usage
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With all due respect, if you're going to do the 'experiment' ... then you should take the time to actually load real websites so we can see the real-life memory pressure. Just seeing that 80 tabs on the menu bar is crowded - well, that was something that was obvious to anyone even without seeing your little 'test'.
 

maflynn

macrumors Haswell
May 3, 2009
73,682
43,740
With all due respect, if you're going to do the 'experiment' ... then you should take the time to actually load real websites so we can see the real-life memory pressure
The goal for me was just seeing how useful Chrome is with 80 tabs open, that's all. I thought adding the memory pressure with 80 tabs would be helpful. If you don't think it is, then I invite you to open 80 sites :)
 

acblue94

macrumors 6502a
Jul 26, 2011
554
982
New York, NY.
I really don't care for the current macbook pro offerings from Apple. 13in is way to small of a screen, 16in is better but its waaaayyyy overpriced. I like my current 15in 2016 with the task bar, but the chip architecture can't support a browser with 80 tabs open on chrome. The battery last about 2 hours or less using chrome. I wish the 16in had a taskbar or at least a touchscreen. I think a more reasonable price for it would be $999. Apple is always disappointing but what other choice do we have?? They need to lower prices or step up their game.
You just can’t afford them. Rant over.
 

MauiPa

macrumors 68040
Apr 18, 2018
3,438
5,084
Overpriced? LOL. Another poster who has done no price comparison and arrives at an erroneous conclusion. The proper way to determine price competitiveness is to find a competing product with the same specs you know things like processor speeds, SSD speed, thermal characteristics (some Intel based laptops throttle almost immediately), screen specs(color accuracy, pixel depth, contrast, brightness), build quality, etc. every time I do, the competitors prices get really high cause you have to upgrade everything to meet the same specs, and then you are still stuck with bad thermals and low battery life

Maybe what you are saying is you would like an M2 MBA 16 - lower specked screen, smaller battery, less ports

Go ahead and feel free to prove me wrong though. Send a link to a competitive PC with a fast processor, fast SSD, good screen, good thermals. I’d love to see it

Btw: chrome sucks it uses too much memory, and other resources and is slow. I know people like the UI, but it needs some serious re-engineering
 

Zest28

macrumors 68030
Jul 11, 2022
2,583
3,935
I really don't care for the current macbook pro offerings from Apple. 13in is way to small of a screen, 16in is better but its waaaayyyy overpriced. I like my current 15in 2016 with the task bar, but the chip architecture can't support a browser with 80 tabs open on chrome. The battery last about 2 hours or less using chrome. I wish the 16in had a taskbar or at least a touchscreen. I think a more reasonable price for it would be $999. Apple is always disappointing but what other choice do we have?? They need to lower prices or step up their game.

I have been saying for a while Apple should make a 15” MBA with a M1 or M2 chip in it (not a Pro or Max model) without mini-LED to make it as cheap as possible.

But it won’t be $999, more like $1500 for the base model I predict.
 

MauiPa

macrumors 68040
Apr 18, 2018
3,438
5,084
The goal for me was just seeing how useful Chrome is with 80 tabs open, that's all. I thought adding the memory pressure with 80 tabs would be helpful. If you don't think it is, then I invite you to open 80 sites :)
80 tabs in a memory hog like chrome sounds meaningless to anything
 

Spaceboi Scaphandre

macrumors 68040
Jun 8, 2022
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8,107
I love how he's got an oscilloscope in the background but the poor thing is in X-Y mode and burning a hole in the phosphor on the screen.

But it looks impressive... hmmm....

Never watched GamersNexus huh? They're fantastic independent testers of components and prebuilts. They even made a Sleeper PC out of a dead Powermac G5 found in the woods


They've found so many different faults in components, most notably the exploding Gigabyte PSUs from last year, an incident Gigabyte tried to sweep under the rug that Gamersnexus got with regulators to force Gigabyte to issue a recall


Hell last year in general was just the Year of Fire as so many parts were fire hazards.


(I love their annual Disappointment Builds.)
 
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Veeper

macrumors regular
Nov 20, 2020
112
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I really don't care for the current macbook pro offerings from Apple. 13in is way to small of a screen, 16in is better but its waaaayyyy overpriced. I like my current 15in 2016 with the task bar, but the chip architecture can't support a browser with 80 tabs open on chrome. The battery last about 2 hours or less using chrome. I wish the 16in had a taskbar or at least a touchscreen. I think a more reasonable price for it would be $999. Apple is always disappointing but what other choice do we have?? They need to lower prices or step up their game.
I would love to see a 16” M2 “air” with no active cooling, huge battery, 16g/512g. It’d be the screen people want, the huge battery and touchpad they like, and the horsepower appropriate for the fleet users.

We’d deploy hundreds on day 1 of launch.
 

Spaceboi Scaphandre

macrumors 68040
Jun 8, 2022
3,414
8,107
I feel like too many people confuse "expensive" with "overpriced".

Yeah. Like the Intel Macs were genuinely overpriced, especially the Mac Pros (or as I called them the Meme Pro) because of their specs compared to the price of the PC counterparts

The Apple Silicon Macs on the other hand are a completely different story. Their price to performance ratio is so damn good that it's blowing the competition out of the water. The Macbook Pros are worth their $2000+ price tag because of the hardware in them, and even then they're on sale a lot under that.
 
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kp98077

macrumors 601
Oct 26, 2010
4,312
2,764
Whistler, BC
I really don't care for the current macbook pro offerings from Apple. 13in is way to small of a screen, 16in is better but its waaaayyyy overpriced. I like my current 15in 2016 with the task bar, but the chip architecture can't support a browser with 80 tabs open on chrome. The battery last about 2 hours or less using chrome. I wish the 16in had a taskbar or at least a touchscreen. I think a more reasonable price for it would be $999. Apple is always disappointing but what other choice do we have?? They need to lower prices or step up their game.
Well, they are on sale for $2050
At Costco now. Which is not bad …
 

EdT

macrumors 68020
Mar 11, 2007
2,429
1,980
Omaha, NE
I really don't care for the current macbook pro offerings from Apple. 13in is way to small of a screen, 16in is better but its waaaayyyy overpriced. I like my current 15in 2016 with the task bar, but the chip architecture can't support a browser with 80 tabs open on chrome. The battery last about 2 hours or less using chrome. I wish the 16in had a taskbar or at least a touchscreen. I think a more reasonable price for it would be $999. Apple is always disappointing but what other choice do we have?? They need to lower prices or step up their game.
I’m usually not an Apple Cheerleader when it comes to what they charge but find a competing brand that can handle graphic intensive photo and video editing for a significant number of hours without needing to be plugged in and that won’t be howling from their fan noise and tell me what it costs and how fast you can finish a video edits or converting/correcting photos.

I can’t afford the M-Series I want but it is cheaper than what I would have to spend to get something close to what Apple offers now, and right now there aren’t any x86 laptops that can do that work running on battery for hours if you are really editing RAW images or processing 4K videos at a remote site. I want one, but I can’t justify what it costs, but if there is a non Apple laptop on the market that combines speed/screen resolution/battery I don’t know what it is.

But I’ll admit that I am far from knowing everything.
 

roland.g

macrumors 604
Apr 11, 2005
7,472
3,257
This was pretty funny. Thanks.

Lower the price. Up their game. $999. Why not $99. You've heard of for profit companies? Don't like it don't buy it.

I had the TouchBar (if you want the marketing name for it) and while I did like it, it was so largely unused and so unpopular that they did what most users wanted and got rid of it. So be it.

You want a Touchscreen, get a 12 inch iPad Pro or wait for the rumored 16 iPad Pro. Apple has repeatedly said people don't want to interact with a traditional laptop via touch. My work Surface Pro is a touch screen, AND I NEVER EVER TOUCH IT. I have a keyboard and a mouse or the Type Cover.

As to a browser with 80 tabs open. If you keep a browser open on a Mac Studio Max with 32GB RAM with 80 open tabs, that will run out of memory and be problematic. Open browser tabs of that order are problematic. Manage what you need to look at better. The issue at this point is workflow and not computing resources.
 

Chinch07

macrumors member
Nov 9, 2017
65
162
I have a full spec 16” and while it was expensive for most people, my productivity is off the charts compared to my previous MacBook and custom built PC. It was totally worth it and it’ll hopefully last me for many years just like my other Apple computers have.
 
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Analog Kid

macrumors G3
Mar 4, 2003
9,360
12,603
You don’t need to mark a thread here as a rant. Most are. If it makes it to the front page I can pretty much be sure of it.
 

usagora

macrumors 601
Nov 17, 2017
4,869
4,456
The goal for me was just seeing how useful Chrome is with 80 tabs open, that's all. I thought adding the memory pressure with 80 tabs would be helpful. If you don't think it is, then I invite you to open 80 sites :)

Dude, just get one of these so your tabs aren't so cramped 😉

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ndouglas

macrumors 6502a
Jun 1, 2022
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636
Definitely one of the shorter “rants” so props for that I guess. Still, I have to respectfully disagree with most of the post, lots of blanket statements and exaggerations etc. Never fails to amaze me how common it is for the most popular and “top of the list” threads can be so fatuous.
Anyway, on a serious note, not that OP really cares to look probably, but there are indeed plenty of PC options since you have such poor regard of Macbooks and Apple. With comments like “always disappointing” and ”what other choice do we have?” I can’t help assume OP is mostly trolling.
 
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