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Blue Velvet

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At Microsoft's MIX08 conference in Las Vegas, an annual Microsoft conference for web developers and designers, many people were waiting in anticipation for Steve Ballmer to let loose. Ballmer's keynote was co-hosted by a surprising guest — early Apple employee and venture capitalist Guy Kawasaki.

On Apple Ballmer was less than praise-filled. At one point, when asked questions about Windows Vista, Ballmer distracted Kawasaki by grabbing his MacBook Air. He then held up the computer and pronounced, "You got Vista on that thing? This is heavier than my PC. It's true! That thing is heavier than the Toshiba that I carry. Where's your DVD drive? We'll get rid of this. We'll get you a real machine, and then you can e-mail me your feedback."

Kawasaki inquired about Ballmer's dislike for Apple, stating, "When you wake up in the morning, what do you think about Apple? Is it this little Chihuahua that you kick away every time?"

A very energetic Ballmer proceeded to bark and howl like a dog, before responding in a concilliatory tone, "Apple does a pretty good job, I'm not going to take away from anything that Apple does. We also do a pretty good job, and we're going to drive hard. Apple's taken away a little share."


http://www.dailytech.com/Steve+Ballmer+Gets+Candid+at+MIX08/article11003c.htm

I don't know about CEOs that bark like dogs during interviews.
 

72930

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Bill Gates must love Apple to have left that guy in charge. I mean seriously, how much less professional can you get?!
 

clevin

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well, he is a quite unique CEO, isn't him? At least he is honest about his distaste of apple.

the article itself said Steve has more "serious exchange", which apparently nobody really cares...
 

Blue Velvet

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Steve Ballmer said:
This is heavier than my PC. It's true! That thing is heavier than the Toshiba that I carry. Where's your DVD drive?


Anyone know what kind of Toshiba PC he's likely to be using, if it's supposedly lighter? Just curious.
 

mkrishnan

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There is no lighter Toshiba. The lightest Toshiba's and Sony's clock in at just over 4 lbs.

Actually, Toshiba has or at least had the R500, which weighs in at 1.7 lbs in smallest config.

http://www.geek.com/toshiba-r500-notebook/

So that might be it.

I have to say the interview was a lot less acerbic than that article makes it out to be, having so far watched the first ten minutes or so. It's actually quite congenial, and Ballmer has some guardedly positive things to say about Apple, which are very reasonable considering who he is.

His physical comedy just scares me though. I think particularly because he must weigh nearly twice as much as me. His presence is kind of disturbing....
 

mkrishnan

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Good find, interesting. VGA port? These days?

Yeah, I didn't look at it too carefully. My Eee actually has a VGA port, also, although I don't use it. Some people argue that a VGA port is a better call on a business notebook, because it'll be guaranteed to work without an adapter with any projectors you run into.... And of course, my HDTV has its own VGA port also.

Also btw this Sony's current lighter notebook, I think... around 2.7 lbs.

http://b2b.sony.com/Solutions/page.do?page=/TZShowcase/tzSpecs.html&name=TZ Specifications

And I let the video run in the background and finally got to the Macbook Air part (which was about 20 minutes after the chihuahua incident :p ) ... also pretty overblown. Fairly congenial.
 

Blue Velvet

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Some people argue that a VGA port is a better call on a business notebook, because it'll be guaranteed to work without an adapter with any projectors you run into...


Thanks. Good point. Can't see beyond my own limited needs. :eek:

I'm no 'road warrior'. :D
 

digitalnicotine

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Wow. I clicked to watch Steve Ballmer's "web developer" dance, and didn't realize turning down the volume first would be wise. Now I can't get my cat to come out from under the bed!

My opinion is that competition in the industry is good for consumers. I don't get paid to endorse, or slam any particular brand, so whoever makes the coolest, most functional, cost efficient machine wins my hard earned dollars. I happen to land on Apple, because right now, they are winning at creating what I want.

The little Toshiba was kind of cute, but it looks like an Asus EEE on 'roids. I prefer a keyboard I can comfortably type on, and attaching a USB keyboard sort of defeats the purpose of having a lightweight laptop. I have a MBP, and have never carried disk media (DVD's, CD's) with me when I'm out and about.

The article aroused a few cartoon images of Ballmer juggling his Toshiba and a few DVD's/CD's, while "dancing", barking, sweating, and loudly proclaiming how much lighter it is than the Air, repeatedly mashing his finger on the trackpad buttons, trying to find that sweet spot that actually allows them to work, and hitting the backspace key to correct all his typos made by big fingers on a tiny little keyboard. :)
 

IJ Reilly

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And some people complain about Steve Jobs' eccentricities. Ballmer seems to have derived his management style from Bobcat Goldthwait.
 

Sesshi

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I don't get it. The guy has been in management for how long? And he's always like a beginner when it comes to projecting his persona. Perhaps he's an awesome CEO in operational terms - but he sure doesn't do himself any favours with those mannerisms that that voice... straight out of nerd central. You can see how tense he is in speeches or in public situations, which drives up the pitch of the voice even more - hard to believe he's still nervous after all this time. Gates may come across as just as nerdy but he's a lot more relaxed in public.
 

clevin

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And some people complain about Steve Jobs' eccentricities. Ballmer seems to have derived his management style from Bobcat Goldthwait.
eccentricity is the least problem I have with Mr. Jobs. I can tolerate ppl with big ego, as long as they are honest.

Every CEO has problems. Perfect CEO hasn't been born yet.
 

digitalnicotine

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I don't get it. The guy has been in management for how long? And he's always like a beginner when it comes to projecting his persona. Perhaps he's an awesome CEO in operational terms - but he sure doesn't do himself any favours with those mannerisms that that voice... straight out of nerd central. You can see how tense he is in speeches or in public situations - hard to believe he's still nervous after all this time. Gates may come across as just as nerdy but he's a lot more relaxed in public.


I can't help but wonder if he's not geek entertainment at Microsoft to some degree. While I'm positive that nobody there is mocking him to his face, I am almost as certain there are a few Ballmer impersonators roaming the halls, who struggle to maintain their decorum during his addresses. I know I wouldn't be able to resist.
 

iDAG

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I watched the whole thing last night and it is hard to believe any words that come out of his mouth. What he did with that dudes MacBook Air was uncalled for I think. :(
 

Shadow

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Just watching it now and I agree - the guy's a nut. However, what he said about IE:mac (the reasons for not bringing it again) deserves respect: the guy knows when he should leave it along. Safari ftw.
 
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