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Good God.
Are you all really so dumb?
You all think steve jobs himself actually sat down and did quality control on iPhones and decided which prototype would be developed?
There's thousands of man hours from actual experts that go into stuff like that. He's not someone who they brought a prototype and he said yes or no. It didn't work like that. That's beyond a myth.
Are you all really so dumb?
You all think steve jobs himself actually sat down and did quality control on iPhones and decided which prototype would be developed?
There's thousands of man hours from actual experts that go into stuff like that. He's not someone who they brought a prototype and he said yes or no. It didn't work like that. That's beyond a myth.
Read some of the stories of working with Jobs. That's exactly what it was like for many people.
It DID work that way, though. The original iPhone had been in development for nine months when Steve told Ivy and the rest of the team that he didn't like the design and that they needed to start over. Everything had to be re-designed all because of the bezel taking up too much of the front.
You know chances are that this Iphone was worked on by Steve. They dont just make it over a couple months, they spend years. They are probably already looking to make designs for the next one.
the next one is more than likely already finished...
Only an idiot would believe that. It's really quite simple, it did not end with him. There are boardrooms for that and engineers who know what they're doing rather than a grumpy old man who either puts his thumb up or down.
My buddy got his yesterday and I'm tracking mine every five seconds it's due tomorrow so I can say:
1. The leaked photos are real.
2. The back plate is actually kinda sexy, gives it a little more character than the solid plain one.
So whether its Steve Jobs or Tim Cook, I say congrats on another nice phone.
You have zero credibility with anything you're saying. You have no clue what happened in the apple upper management before steve died. You are ignorant to think that steve didn't have any say in the design of this phone. I know you think you're sounding cool but it's actually pretty sad.
Calm down, I haven't insulted you (yet), so I don't know what gives you the right to call me "sad" or "ignorant", since you don't know me. Maybe YOU are the ignorant, because it seems you can't read properly, or maybe you read too fast. So read slowly now:
I AGREE WITH YOU! I DON'T THINK THAT STEVE DIDN'T HAVE ANY SAY!
I THINK THAT STEVE JOBS HAVE WORKED ON THE DESIGN OF THIS IPHONE AND I ACTUALLY LIKE WHAT I HAVE SEEN SO FAR!
It seems to me that we are saying the same thing, so what's your problem with me?
By the way, I don't want to sound cool and I don't think to sound cool. I simply don't care. I just hate to be attacked by somebody who doesn't even bother to read properly what I write.
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I'm perfectly calm and stand by my statement. What I said is 100% fact, sorry if you don't like it.
Ignorant is not an insult, it's an acknowledgement of lack of knowledge. I'm ignorant on astrophysics and thousands of other subjects.
Where in any of your previous post other than the one directly above mine did you say you think SJ worked on the i5? I saw no such statement. I will however retract my statement r/t SJ and the i5 as you did not suggest he didn't.
I also didn't call you sad, I said "it's" actually sad. I would not refer to a person as it's. "It's" refers to your thread. So no personal insult was ever leveled towards you.
I understand your point... you felt the need to make a thread basically complaining about those complaining. I again say you have no clue about the inner workings of Apple, or it's management decisions or SJ's thoughts on any given subject. That doesn't change the fact you are working from a position of ignorance unless you have some first hand knowledge about the inner workings of Apple's corporate decisions.
I also stand behind my statement that threads like this are sad. What exactly did you hope to accomplish with this thread? What exchange did you hope to have? Those that feel TC isn't doing a good job are allowed to have that opinion. Those that feel SJ would not of wanted TC to run apple are allowed to have that opinion. You are allowed to have your opinion disagreeing with their opinion... as I am allowed my opinion about your thread. Of course opinion are like A holes, every one has one and they all stink.
I guess my OP does seem a bit heavy handed but I still stand by my position.
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Sweet Jeebus ...
Did people not pay attention to the patent trial? There was an early prototype of the iPhone 4, almost identical to the device which launched in mid 2010, which was dated sometime in early 2009 if I remember.
So if the design which would eventually become the iPhone 4 was floating around Apple HQ in mid 2009, you can be damn sure than the iPhone we see unveiled on Wednesday will have been floating around Cupertino in prototype form whilst Steve was alive and well.
Tim Cook didn't just wake up one morning and say, "Hey ya'll, I think we gonna make the next iPhone a 4 inch screen".
Did people not pay attention to the patent trial? There was an early prototype of the iPhone 4, almost identical to the device which launched in mid 2010, which was dated sometime in early 2009 if I remember.
So if the design which would eventually become the iPhone 4 was floating around Apple HQ in mid 2009, you can be damn sure than the iPhone we see unveiled on Wednesday will have been floating around Cupertino in prototype form whilst Steve was alive and well.
Tim Cook didn't just wake up one morning and say, "Hey ya'll, I think we gonna make the next iPhone a 4 inch screen".
Then I'm glad I'm an idiot. It was in the biography and several of the team members cited that Steve did make them restart because of the bezel. Read a book sometimes.
The thing about Steve is that he had that edginess to him, he felt like a real leader and visionary. With Steve, you never knew, he may not have been this way, but he felt like a person that would go into the room, tell all the engineers to stop whatever they are doing and work on this new, revolutionary technology he envisioned will be great.
He also had an incredible charisma and a way to explain things, watch his interviews, they are all very interesting.
That's what made Apple the leader on the industry.
Tim Cook, he can run the company like a swiss clock, everything on time, everything perfect, however he lacks that crazyness, chrisma, vision and risk taking ability that Jobs had.
Maybe I'm wrong, time will tell, will Tim Cook have the vision to have a look at something that is now a prototype concept in some lab and see the potential in it? Will Apple stay a revolutionary company, willing to try things, on top of the tech industry? Or will they play it safe and not steer from the foundation that Steve left?
He also had an incredible charisma and a way to explain things, watch his interviews, they are all very interesting.
That's what made Apple the leader on the industry.
Tim Cook, he can run the company like a swiss clock, everything on time, everything perfect, however he lacks that crazyness, chrisma, vision and risk taking ability that Jobs had.
Maybe I'm wrong, time will tell, will Tim Cook have the vision to have a look at something that is now a prototype concept in some lab and see the potential in it? Will Apple stay a revolutionary company, willing to try things, on top of the tech industry? Or will they play it safe and not steer from the foundation that Steve left?
Is the really what you think about folks who invest in companies, how do you think most of the young startup companies get the capitol needed to create products or offer services.
While i agree that profits do need to be put back into a business to grow and develop new products, you also need to reward the folks who risked their money by investing in you.
Steve said once, he wanted investors for the long run. That was in response to a question regarding dividends and such. Obviously, only short term investors stick when dividends are involved. Steve had the right mindset. Cook is going to ruin Apple with his backwards thinking. He is doing everything Jobs fought not to do.
from whats been said Jobs has had a hand in the plans of this phone before he even passed. If you think apple didn't have a plan for where they were going a year after steve passed that'd be poor planning. I think steve knew there was going to be a 4" iPhone, possibly even the 7" iPad
Read it. With the size of his ego were they really going to put that he wasn't involved in major decisions?
SJ also went on and on saying making a tablet is a horrible idea. He also said Intel sucks PPC all the way and so on.
SJ was a marketing guy at his core and damn straight he will lie and say anything that makes his product sell better.
This 4in phone as already in the pipeline when he step down as CEO.
Apple had grown way to large for someone like Jobs to run it. It needs someone more like Tim running the company. Jobs would of been much better running the design side.
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Steve Jobs is dead he's not coming back. It's time some of you accept the fact and move on to worshipping someone else. I swear some of you people sound ridiculous bringing the guys name up every 5 minutes. Steve this Steve that and you didn't even know the guy yet you think you knew him and what he would of done in every situation. Some of you guys are plain obsessed with steve Jobs even though he had a very low opinion of all of you. You were just gerbils in a maze looking for a pellet to that guy yet you worship him. Adults shouldn't need a freaking hero/idol it's time for you to grow up and stop putting people on a mythical pedastel.
There is no proof YET that the new iPhone is 4" or has that new back plate. For all we know it is still 3.5" with the glass back!
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Even if Jobs said those things, Apple was still FIRST to market with a great design and implementation. There was NOTHING before the iPad that was well designed hardware, perfect touch experience and seamless app store. So Jobs came around and still beat everyone to market.
