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The photos of Steve posted by Engadget shows that he is still rail-thin and gaunt. He doesn't look healthy at all, I hope his health improves soon and it's nothing too serious.
 

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I thought he looked better than before to be honest...

Why don't we wait and see until the keynote is watchable online, then, we don't have to rely on mr blurrycam for our opinions...
 

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I thought he looked better than before to be honest...

Why don't we wait and see until the keynote is watchable online, then, we don't have to rely on mr blurrycam for our opinions...

I didn't watch the feed here, I watched it on Engagdet which had nice big, clear photos. It's clear that something is eating away at Steve's body.
 

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I didn't watch the feed here, I watched it on Engagdet which had nice big, clear photos. It's clear that something is eating away at Steve's body.

Yes, me too, and what I'm saying, is rather than judge from a set of some blurred pictures, why not wait until you watch it in high resolution video...
 

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I didn't watch the feed here, I watched it on Engagdet which had nice big, clear photos. It's clear that something is eating away at Steve's body.

How is it clear that something is "eating away" at Steve's body? Yes, he looks gaunt - a bit better - IMO - from the last event.
 

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Yes, me too, and what I'm saying, is rather than judge from a set of some blurred pictures, why not wait until you watch it in high resolution video...

As I said, the photos weren't blurry. Does this look blurry to you?

apple-lets-rock-089.jpg
 

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As I said, the photos weren't blurry. Does this look blurry to you?

<snip>http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2008/09/apple-lets-rock-089.jpg<snip>

Ok I didn't see this photo, the only ones I saw were pretty blurred ones, even looking at that he doesn't look that skinny, he looks better than he did at MW08...
 

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hes looks skinny, yes, but not at all gaunt or like before.

Hes fine. lay off
 

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Just like the new ipods, he is getting thinner and more powerful every year.

Don't be surprised if the next MacBook Air commercial shows both the Air AND Steve Jobs coming out of the envelope at the SAME TIME!
 

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Here's a photo of Steve in June. To me, he looks just as thin and gaunt today as he did in June. I don't see the "improvement" others allude to.

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No but you did insinuate it, which is pretty much close enough...

Insinuating and "close enough" is you projecting your opinion onto my words. Not the same as me actually typing those words. Do you understand the difference?
 

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I have to agree with the OP, he does not look well to me.

It is not just the gaunt appearance, but the pallor as well, which is indicative to me of chronic, or long-term, ill-health. Like the OP, I am truly sorry to see it, as he is one of the world's great creative forces in his field.

The stories about his appearance and his health (and disclosure/non-disclosure of ill-health) have caused strong feelings on other threads, too.

Just like the new ipods, he is getting thinner and more powerful every year.

Don't be surprised if the next MacBook Air commercial shows both the Air AND Steve Jobs coming out of the envelope at the SAME TIME!

Clever, funny, sharp and biting - but true. Lol.

Cheers
 

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Insinuating and "close enough" is you projecting your opinion onto my words. Not the same as me actually typing those words. Do you understand the difference?

Ok, I don't usually stoop that low and I apologise, but I still think Steve looks better than before, I'm incredibly skinny myself (I have a BMI of 16.5, should be at least 18.5), and he doesn't look skinnier than I do...

I'll admit, he could look better, but he still looks better than before.
 

Trajectory

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I still think Steve looks better than before, I'm incredibly skinny myself (I have a BMI of 16.5, should be at least 18.5), and he doesn't look skinnier than I do.

I see your point, but there is a big difference between someone who is naturally skinny and someone who has lost a lot of weight due to an illness. You can be healthy and look thin, but, to me Steve does not look healthy, especially when you compare how he looks now to just a few years ago. He is clearly having serious health issues which I really hope he can overcome and get back to his healthy self again.
 

Butthead

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I see your point, but there is a big difference between someone who is naturally skinny and someone who has lost a lot of weight due to an illness. You can be healthy and look thin, but, to me Steve does not look healthy, especially when you compare how he looks now to just a few years ago. He is clearly having serious health issues which I really hope he can overcome and get back to his healthy self again.

Well that was the speculation of the previous thread I posted about Lyon's.

Lyons: Steve Jobs' health in serious question
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/555457/

However, if Steve says he feels fine, he could have suffered weight loss due to complications from the side-effects of the pancreatic cancer treatments he went through, but still be relatively healthy, just loss a fair amount of weight recently from those complications that need to be addressed.

Notice how super pudgy Clinton, over-weight to be sure; looked pretty damned thin too after his own illness. But isn't Clinton overall healthier now, losing some weight, even if it doesn't look all that 'healthy' from an outward view?

If Steve has been doing any kind of exercise since his bout with cancer, overall, in spite of the weight loss back in June...in theory he could actually be in better overall health. Don't think, even if he does some exercise at all, he's going to be exercising enough to put back on weight in a muscle building way, like former president Ronald Reagan did after the attempted assassination attempt on him (had to be fitted with larger suits because of the weightlifting he was doing post surgery, got him bigger upper body muscle mass). If he actually feels better now (currently, from words in article linked below), because he's exercising more, feels stronger now than he did at WWDC, then he might actually truly be in better health now, even if it doesn't look like it. As long as he's working with doctors and dietitians, if he doesn't lose anymore weight, he could be just fine...as he says he feels.

I don't recall a story bout him being vegan... but shirt and pants look very baggy. I'm with the the rest of the club, something is eating away at him. Wish him the best.

Just finished re-watching the 2008 Keynote from Mahallo... IMHO, the clothes fit much better then... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz1-cPx0cIk

Hmm, I think his new shaved, less scruffy looking face makes a big difference in his look from his pre-cancer, heavier weight days. Losing more hair as he ages, doesn't help any of us guys, lol (women too ;) ).

Then I notice in some of the more recent photos today, his baggy lower eyelids look a bit more pronounced, also could be from weight loss. Eck, the new blk turtlenecks look like Steve is purposely buying baggier size (too hide this new thinness? think it works opposite if that be the case...too baggy, for him now, IMHO going with less baggy turtlenecks would make him look skinny, but not so exaggerated as the super baggy look of now). Not sure if the old heavier Steve, wouldn't also look thinner wearing the current ones???

OP must be part of the hedge fund Steve alluded to.

hedge fund reference....for those who did not see the CNBC interview, linky:


Steve Jobs Talks New iPods, Health: My One On One
http://www.cnbc.com/id/26628547

though interviewer dismissed the comment, for context:
quoting SJ "hedge funds with a big short position in Apple."


I think it was an off-hand remark. Nothing more. Nothing less.

The bigger focus of course, is his health. And while he still looks thin, there was definitely a bounce in his step lacking in that June appearance. He reassured me he was doing fine, that he could stand to gain a little weight, but all in all, he didn't know "what else I can do" to for those still concerned about him.
 
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