17.4 has a new setting to do that:So that you have to use Face ID all the time to make any changes to your account.
o Away from familiar locations or
o Always
17.4 has a new setting to do that:So that you have to use Face ID all the time to make any changes to your account.
Hi there! Did you get to the bottom of this? As my partner is having the exact same issue... and as his work use a profile he has lost all access to his work emails etc!I had some issues with SDP where it wouldn’t deactivate despite waiting for 60 mins.
I turned it on Tuesday night, tested it by entering the wrong passcode on purpose. It activated the 60 minutes delay. But, after the countdown it just starts again, over and over.
I didn’t leave my location.
I managed to turn it off eventually. Very odd behaviour though.
Here are the details:
1. I was at home and it still made me wait 1 hour.
Does that mean it doesn’t see my home as a trusted location?
2. I turned the feature on Tuesday night and after 60 mins I still couldn’t turn it off. Went to sleep.
3. When I got up at around 8:45am. The 60 min countdown started again. When I checked again after 10:30am the delay kicked off again for another 60min.
4. At 11:45am I unlocked the phone and it kicked off another 60min delay.
5. This time I actually left the phone unlocked and monitored it. Leaving the countdown on screen. When the delay ended, I made sure I didn’t lock the phone and was able to turn the feature off.
Until I understand why this happened – I’m leaving the feature off!
I like the idea of the feature but after this experience, not really trusting it.
Same here, you cannot start the countdown then get back to it later in the day, in my beta testing experience you need to set a 1 hour timer and hit the settings within minutes of the countdown ending.Hi there! Did you get to the bottom of this? As my partner is having the exact same issue... and as his work use a profile he has lost all access to his work emails etc!
Thanks!
So my second iphone, which never leaves the house, is behaving the same way.Ah. That explains how I managed to deactivate it after the 4th or 5th try. Apple needs to perfect this feature. It seems like a hasty release, needed more testing and context around how it works
This is to be expected and a big worry for housebound people- except housebound people probably will not get mugged for their phone in a bar when drunk and may not want SDP.So my second iphone, which never leaves the house, is behaving the same way.
I turn on SDP and even if I authenticate via FaceID without error. I still get the 60 minute delay if I try to disable it again.
Sorry to resurrect a slightly dated thread (especially as my first post). I stumbled across this after having the same problem with my iPhone not recognizing my home, and I've had SDP employed since the first few days after it was rolled out. I've tried all of the steps I could find in other sites and am awaiting the hour countdown (at home).
I was going through some other steps to protect the info on my phone in the event that someone grabs it and has access to it (such as from shoulder surfing). My biggest concerns are (1) my password manager app on my phone, and (2) my son who frequents bars more than me - and the spate of druggings and robberies in which faceID can be used to unlock a phone.
As far as I know, the delay is for accessing the functions requiring higher level of security, eg. to change passcode.Quite often I have my iPhone at my desk and when I reach for it, the Face ID does not work, so I get the pass code prompt. That is not a real hassle but... if I enable Stolen Device Protection and select "Always" instead of "Away from Familiar locations"; will I have to wait an hour each time in these cases, just to use my iPhone?
If Apple trusts that faceid is more secure and entering passcode in passcode is not safe. I don’t know why for some reasons iPhone would prompt for passcode once a while.
So you don't forget it? I see people at work using Touch ID to unlock their Macs constantly and when they need to use their password, they draw a blank! There's no harm in being asked for your password once in a while.
Then what is the benefits of using: 'Away from Familiar locations'? Why not just use 'Always'?As far as I know, the delay is for accessing the functions requiring higher level of security, eg. to change passcode.
With either faceid or passcode, one could anyway unlock the phone to use it generally.
entering passcode in public is worrying.So you don't forget it? I see people at work using Touch ID to unlock their Macs constantly and when they need to use their password, they draw a blank! There's no harm in being asked for your password once in a while.
entering passcode in public is worrying.
actually, SDP was released to mitigate the situation that the passcode was exposed then the user was followed and his iphone was stolen.
That's gonna go down great when I am standing at the checkout Friday night in a packed store and attempting to pay is met with "your passcode is required to enable Face ID". Biometrics on iPhone is great except that when I am not at home I get asked more often to enter my passcode even though the 7 day period isn't up yet and it shouldn't force entering the passcode more than once a week which is what it does on my Macs and iPads. Even worse is when I am travelling, the passcode is forced about once per day, randomly. Standing at the checkout not being able to open the Wallet with Face ID has happened on multiple occasions.Go into a corner or put your back against the wall or put your coat over your head and iPhone or go into the toilet...
Be vigilant when entering your passcode in a public place.entering passcode in public is worrying.
actually, SDP was released to mitigate the situation that the passcode was exposed then the user was followed and his iphone was stolen.
That's gonna go down great when I am standing at the checkout Friday night in a packed store and attempting to pay is met with "your passcode is required to enable Face ID". Biometrics on iPhone is great except that when I am not at home I get asked more often to enter my passcode even though the 7 day period isn't up yet and it shouldn't force entering the passcode more than once a week which is what it does on my Macs and iPads. Even worse is when I am travelling, the passcode is forced about once per day, randomly. Standing at the checkout not being able to open the Wallet with Face ID has happened on multiple occasions.
The iPhone seems to be able to smell when it's going to be most inconvenient. My last very inconvenient situation although without security implications was getting lost riding a bicycle taking the iPhone out of my pocket with one hand and instead of quickly opening the map with Face ID of course I was met with the passcode being forced.
Not to mention that the people who get their passcodes stolen with their iPhones are usually targeted by multiple criminals of the same gang that pick an easy target they might end up following around for a while. They won't follow you if you watch your surroundings like a hawk, but if you ever let your guard down just once that's enough. I was robbed in my own street where 2 guys quietly stepped out of hiding from a quiet corner behind me, trailed me for mere seconds and whilst I was looking down at my bag for my keys they had robbed me and were already gone within seconds and all during daylight in public. I went into a fight response without thinking with one guy whilst the other had already taken off with my wallet but he was crazy strong and I couldn't stop him from taking off as well. Nobody else on the street even noticed, that's how quickly it happened.
Your "put your coat over your head" mindset will totally work because you are cautious 100% of the time, never let your guard down even 30 seconds away from your front door in a safe neighbourhood and turn around every couple seconds to make sure nobody is following you. Yeah that's gonna work really well.
Stolen device protection is nice as these things will keep happening no matter what, the only problem I have with it is that it's opt-in by default whereas it should be enabled by default and require opt-out if you as an experienced user determine you don't want this feature. Hopefully Apple enables it across the board in the future once they have collected enough data about how well it works.
I mean it's the same here except for when I am travelling and then it's daily. And I dislike that just when I am in a crowd of tourists often getting out my iPhone for photos the iPhone will prompt for the code, relatively often. Even if I just want to access the camera and don't need to unlock the iPhone the iPhone will immediately switch to the passcode prompt and I can't swipe to the camera from there, I first have to hit the cancel button.I am prompted for my PIN very rarely
I mean it's the same here except for when I am travelling and then it's daily. And I dislike that just when I am in a crowd of tourists often getting out my iPhone for photos the iPhone will prompt for the code, relatively often. Even if I just want to access the camera and don't need to unlock the iPhone the iPhone will immediately switch to the passcode prompt and I can't swipe to the camera from there, I first have to hit the cancel button.
I travel a lot and there is definitely a stricter passcode behaviour when the iPhone detects it hasn't been home in a while. At home it asks me once per week as usual or maybe once more in between but certainly not nearly every single day. I can occasionally get the the passcode prompt up to 3x on the same day too even though Face ID isn't failing or anything.
It seems to depend on the amounts of times it unlocks and every x unlocks it wants the code. But since it unlocks with Face ID everytime I take it out for a quick photo (it's so fast I can't prevent Face ID from unlocking) it can go through what's probably a hundred unlocks in a day just by taking photos.
(Equally annoying is that I would prefer to keep the phone locked when using the camera in case someone snatches it out of my hand but Face ID is too quick.)