Is this a UK Bank?
Would you mind mentioning the name?
EDIT: by the way, even if you could enter my banking apps with Face ID you would still need the Debit card details to make a payment to a NEW payee.
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Stolen iPhone - Criminals have full control and Apple cannot help!
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Would you mind mentioning the name?
EDIT: by the way, even if you could enter my banking apps with Face ID you would still need the Debit card details to make a payment to a NEW payee.
This is perfectly reasonable. The unlock code on my Apple Watch is different from my phone's passcode.
Kidding aside, using different secrets ("passcodes" / "passwords") for different things is simply good security practice.
For some things you should of course use complex secrets (10, 20, 30 characters), but if for example the 4-digit Screen Time passcode could only be bypassed with the owner's Apple ID password or through a time-delayed recovery method that requires online connectivity it would give the owner time to lock a stolen device down through another Apple device or the iCloud website.
Didn’t look like anyone answered you on this. You can find the alphanumeric option in “change password” then “passcode options”. I think it gives you three different options one of which is alphanumeric.
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Does that ensure you don't have to type in the passcode if Apple Pay suddenly decides it doesn't recognize your face? 🤔
After reading this marathon thread and accepting that it's impossible to be 100% secure if they take your phone and know your passcode, I figure the only things you can really do are 1) have a strong alphanumeric passcode and never type it in public, 2) have your watch unlock your phone for those few times when FaceID doesn't do it, 3) turn on screentime and don't allow account or passcode changes, which might stop some unknowledgeable thieves.
But that's about it. Stronger security measures will have to wait for Apple to come up with something
But that's about it. Stronger security measures will have to wait for Apple to come up with something
Yep, i have simple scan with no head gear or something I wear outside. I have another face scan with a baseball hat/cap. Never had issue of faceid in public except those card readers behind the bar counters. I just use Apple Watch for Apple Pay.
Sorry for your loss.
I'm not sure why Apple is to blame for this problem.
If the owner is oblivious to his surroundings while using the device, or entering the access codes, why is the company to blame.'
People need to be more mindful of their surroundings, and that includes walking across a busy street with their face in their phone screen.
The target is usually observed for some time before the phone is selected for theft.
Lax behaviour by the user is the "go button".
Awareness of cctv devices is also critical.
In the UK, people are accustomed to smaller personal spaces, than in the USA.
This dulls the situational awareness of most city dwellers.
Imo, the same applies to the new security keey system...those will be misplaced/stolen.
To the OP:
I think This was probably an inside job by one of your co-workers.
You were profiled by a familiar by sight/ security camera.
Cancel your cards and contesting any purchases made after the theft is probably all you can do.
It reminds me to re-read all the fine print pertaining to credit card data used on electronic devices.
I'm not sure why Apple is to blame for this problem.
If the owner is oblivious to his surroundings while using the device, or entering the access codes, why is the company to blame.'
People need to be more mindful of their surroundings, and that includes walking across a busy street with their face in their phone screen.
The target is usually observed for some time before the phone is selected for theft.
Lax behaviour by the user is the "go button".
Awareness of cctv devices is also critical.
In the UK, people are accustomed to smaller personal spaces, than in the USA.
This dulls the situational awareness of most city dwellers.
Imo, the same applies to the new security keey system...those will be misplaced/stolen.
To the OP:
I think This was probably an inside job by one of your co-workers.
You were profiled by a familiar by sight/ security camera.
Cancel your cards and contesting any purchases made after the theft is probably all you can do.
It reminds me to re-read all the fine print pertaining to credit card data used on electronic devices.
Yes, iPhone 14 Pro. No it is a feature of MDM. Command overview:
WiFiManagedSettings | Apple Developer Documentation
The payload you use to configure managed Wi-Fi settings.
There are several other MDM settings as well that work with the above to ensure device security; such as force Bluetooth control. This allows for iPhone tracking even when the device is turned off.
A new YouTube series idea? Netflix or even the Comedy channel may pick it up.
Just be careful, there are some crazy people out there.
How about we pay cops and teachers more and congress less?
Is it not just Settings > FaceID & Passcode > Change Passcode > Passcode Option (below where it asks you to enter new passcode )?
Security questions are horrible. When I am required to answer them, bank for example, I put in the incorrect answers.
Q: What is your best friend's name when growing up?
A: Onomatopoeia
I use my Apple Watch for contactless payments. Very convenient!
But if like many the only Apple device you have is an iPhone … and how many of these actually use the iCloud website?
We need a simple, effective solution any device owner can easily use. If Apple requires users to jump through hoops it is a fail right out of the gate.
1 code to unlock, 2nd code to change items, 3rd code to access bank app, 4th code for advanced data protection, 5th, password to iCloud, 6 for Screen time, 7 for hidden apps, 8, 9, 10? You have good memory guys
The option to user a different password for accessing different things should be AVAILABLE. (I'll leave it to other folks to decide whether to use that option.). The problem is, right now, it is not even an option.
Apple has basically said "one key to rule them all" even if you know and can handle and want to have more than one key. At least the option to separate the keychain from the same password used to unlock the phone screen.
Agreed. Came to same conclusion except remove banking pwrds from keychain and store in encrypted pword manager
Yeah basically the Keychain is a bad idea as long as the screen unlock passcode can also open it. Its like having the key for your front door ALSO unlock the safe in your bedroom closet where you keep your money and guns.
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What happens if you drop your phone on the way into grocery store. You can't pay for anything anyway. I carry around 1 credit card for an eventually like that.
I'm pretty sure Apple will come up with something, what it is, is anyones guess. Whatever Apple comes up with, someone will be caught in it because they will lose a passcode or pin.