That makes no sense to add a hop into your streaming. Both for latency sake and simplicity sake. Why have my Mac on to stream from a disk independent from my Mac? If this is the case I'll continue to use my AppleTV as I have. I stream directly from my AirDisk (via hacks).
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Streaming from Time Capsule/Airdisk
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That makes no sense to add a hop into your streaming. Both for latency sake and simplicity sake. Why have my Mac on to stream from a disk independent from my Mac? If this is the case I'll continue to use my AppleTV as I have. I stream directly from my AirDisk (via hacks).
Because that's how streaming from an iTunes library works. It has to go through an open iTunes library. I can verify this is how it works via my ReadyNAS NV+ and AppleTV. I guess if the Time Capsule had an iTunes client running on it, what you are proposing would work, but there has been nothing hinting at this feature.
The ReadyNAS NV+ does have an iTunes-compatible streaming server that will do what you are talking about, but currently only works for music and cannot be associated with an AppleTV (only computers).
No I dont think TC will have an iTunes client on it, I think the AppleTV software update will. (It had been suggested by a few others on the forum). It would make no sense for the Time Capsule to have it, since not everyone has an AppleTV to use that 'feature'. I guess I'll keep an eye out for how things work when the update hits. I wanted a Time Capsule, but now maybe not so much.
If all the AppleTV update does is use my desktop iTunes as a proxy then it's no good to me.
Well, after reading this thread, I agree that the ability to stream directly from Time Capsule would be an excellent feature since it will always be on and given its copious storage capacity. It is too bad it wasn't included this time but I'm still looking forward to Take Two nonetheless, and hopefully this feature will be included in the next update.
Kudos to Kevin and his colleagues.
Kudos to Kevin and his colleagues.
Perhaps I'm missing something, but isn't using the Time Capsule as a media storage device which can be accessed by AppleTV without a Mac/PC running iTunes inbetween kinda missing the point of the Time Capsule (from Apple's PoV)?
The Time Capsule is meant to be an enhancement of the Time Machine part of Leopard, making the process a little more seamless (i.e. no disconnecting/reconnecting external hard drives for us laptop users). Apple does not see this as simply extra storage with wireless capabilities. Hence I'm skeptical that Apple is gonna update software to allow for this sort of integration with AppleTV. If Apple allows it to be used in such a away, it makes it much more difficult to also use TC as a backup device (after all, what are you gonna back up the media on the TC onto?!?).
However, the idea is laudable. I think it'd make sense for some sort of media storage device to pair up with the AppleTV to be released. The concepts reliance on an always on machine seems rather messy to me - a bit unApple. Ideally, they'd release a Time Capsual Media Edition, or something, which actually had two drives inside - one 500GB one for your media, and one 1TB one to back up both that media and whatever is on your Macbook/iMac.
The Time Capsule is meant to be an enhancement of the Time Machine part of Leopard, making the process a little more seamless (i.e. no disconnecting/reconnecting external hard drives for us laptop users). Apple does not see this as simply extra storage with wireless capabilities. Hence I'm skeptical that Apple is gonna update software to allow for this sort of integration with AppleTV. If Apple allows it to be used in such a away, it makes it much more difficult to also use TC as a backup device (after all, what are you gonna back up the media on the TC onto?!?).
However, the idea is laudable. I think it'd make sense for some sort of media storage device to pair up with the AppleTV to be released. The concepts reliance on an always on machine seems rather messy to me - a bit unApple. Ideally, they'd release a Time Capsual Media Edition, or something, which actually had two drives inside - one 500GB one for your media, and one 1TB one to back up both that media and whatever is on your Macbook/iMac.
Um, yes they do. From the website:
Time Capsule is just network attached storage that can be used for backups. But that does not mean that it's ONLY meant for backups. You can use it for regular filestorage as well.
That said, streaming content to AppleTV would not work, since the streaming has to go through iTunes. Of course you could store your iTunes-library on Time Capsule, and then stream it, but even then it needs iTunes running on the computer. The content would basically go from Time Capsule, to the iTunes running on the computer to the AppleTV.
Amen.
TV is not a zen-like experience like the iPod is/was, and the lack of big storage is a big part of it. The Take 2 firmware helps a lot since it shows you all your media in the iTunes library without having to select a separate source.It would be SO much easier if either: the USB port was natively enabled and can be used to expand/replace your internal drive. ** Or, if they let you stream from Time Capsule, or some other 3.5" HDD based device.
** For example, the DirecTV HD-DVRs have an eSATA port on the back, when you connect an external to it, it replaces your internal drive instead of expanding it.
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Amen.
It would be SO much easier if either: the USB port was natively enabled and can be used to expand/replace your internal drive. ** Or, if they let you stream from Time Capsule, or some other 3.5" HDD based device.
** For example, the DirecTV HD-DVRs have an eSATA port on the back, when you connect an external to it, it replaces your internal drive instead of expanding it.
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Perhaps its an indication of Apples future strategy? I don't think they want people to store 100s of ripped movies on their AppleTV. They want you just to store your music and photos on it (for which 160GB - for most people - is enough), and then just rent your movies off the iTunes store. I reckon as HD movies come in, Apple is gonna phase out buying movies outright and make renting from the Store the norm.
It kind of annoys me I need to store my media on 3 devices. My MacBook, iPod and AppleTV.... not to mention my Time Machine backup. That's 4 places Apple wants me to store my media.
And yes, I understand I don't 'have to' store my media on an AppleTV, but I'd rather store it there than stream from my MacBook. What if I'm on the road with my laptop and my wife wants to watch or listen to something on the AppleTV?
I really hope they eventually come out with a Media edition time machine.
I sincerely hope it's not Apple, but the misguided content providers who also thought DRM was a good idea that are behind this.
EDIT: I think the way that Apple is being fairly lenient with modders/hackers is an indication of this...
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So when apple put on their website 'works with appletv' for the description what do they actually mean. I purchased the time capsule solely for putting on movies, music etc that I could access from my Apple TV.
What should/could I do? Can I use NitoTV or ATV files etc to access files on the Time Capsule?
Any help appreciated.
Grazzyman
What should/could I do? Can I use NitoTV or ATV files etc to access files on the Time Capsule?
Any help appreciated.
Grazzyman
On the page you cite, Apple is merely saying that
TV is compatible with the access point/router features of Time Capsule, i.e. it can talk to your PC/Mac and the internet though it.You can get it to "work" if you still keep a Mac or PC in the loop, just put the iTunes library on the Time Capsule and keep the Mac or PC on and running iTunes.
I have not (yet) hacked mine, but as I understand it ATVFiles is the plugin you need, nitoTV and Perian just add to the kind of movies you can watch. Unfortunately ATVFiles is still in beta for Take 2.
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iTunes tells the Apple TV what content is available to stream. If it is not running, there is no content. When I shut down iTunes I lose access to all my streaming media which means only my synced photos are available. This would be true regardless of whether I was using a TC base station, and AEBS with a Airdisk connected, a FW/USB HDD connected to my Mac or my internal drive as my library. iTunes must be running. For those who use laptops, sorry but that's the sitch. Get a desktop or leave your portable running with iTunes open. You can even keep it awake and close the lid.
Guess it's no good to you then huh?
What is it with Apple customers and their (sigh, I guess our) incessant whining?