Having the same issue with the actual Beta. Siri is popping up in the Battery Stats and consumes Battery, even when the Phone is untouched and unused.
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iPhone Substantial battery drain when using Siri
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can you explain the rapid battery level decline then? Yours shows a fairly consistent curve whereas my battery usage and other people’s shows a sharp decline and the only “app” responsible for that decline is Siri. If I click every part of that decline throughout the night Siri is the only app that shows up for the usage.
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I apologize if I came off brash, that wasn't my intent. However we are still looking at the 24 hour and specifically highlighting times with little to no activity for some reason. The is flawed because there is not only no sample size for a measurement but its cherry picking low energy consumption activities specifically.
There is a lot that goes on in the background with Siri. Voice recognition via machine learning through encrypted Apple servers is only scratching the surface. Siri is tracking your location for up to date search info and suggestions, scans thru your email to suggest contact information, when you type into maps and the address pops up with "Found in Messages"...etc etc
I too can cherry pick an hour where Siri was one of the few things or only thing that ran and therefore was the highest.
While Siri had the highest energy consumption during that hour the amount isn't even visible if you look at the battery life percentage during that time.
Those post you pointed out are excellent examples of exactly what I'm trying to convey.
#5 has 1 active process/app in the time span they selected. Exactly what I just did above. Since 1 process out of 1 processes is 100% its not surprising that 1 process is at the top of a list of 1 thing. Battery consumption during that hour is linear which indicates system resources (network connections, iCloud syncing, push notification, NAND garbage collection, etc etc etc).
#9 is the battery usage of someone that started at ~75% 24 hours ago. A side from 3 specific points there has been no measurable activity over that 24 hours. 75% of 24 hours is 18, 24 + 18 = 42 hours its been off the charger approximately. A battery killer/rogue app tends to kill the battery a bit quicker than near 2 days...
Pointing at activity percentages during the times we have little to no user contributed activity will only show you the activity that normally at the bottom. Serious the number two and three battery killer culprits here are Home and Lock Screen and the Settings menu. Lol.
Apple specifically made the battery menu so you can find the culprits that use average of a reasonably sized sample. Click on the 10 day tab if Siri is using battery day and night at unreasonably high levels then Siri will be right at the really near the top of the list under 10 day. However if Siri is <10% of your 10 day battery usage you are certainly looking in the wrong place.
Now I'm not saying there isn't room for optimizations or there isn't an exception and someone is experiencing a bug but I really don't think
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Hard to say exactly because of the amount of variables.
The iPhone uses about 60 to 100+ mAh per hour just maintaining its core functions. It could be less than that if you keep your phone in AirPlane mode face down and with minimal apps. It could be a lot higher if you have everything on and have poor network reception.
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It's all good 😀
But as can be seen in the picture the poster's phone battery got significantly drained overnight. That battery curve is not a normal standby battery curve when the phone is left idle overnight. And according to the poster the Siri process was responsible for that (so I assume that Siri is listed with 100% during all of the hours of the night).
But the battery level went from around 75% to almost 0% in less than 24 hours as can be seen in the picture especially overnight and the Siri going rogue issue is perhaps quite spontaneous.
@Sillybill It's back (or still there) in the current beta. At this time i've been out for dinner, leaving my phone in the hotel room behind. Still having the Siri usage. And also some other problems on this beta.
It’s 18% of the battery that was and is still at 100% after that hour. What are you expecting to see?
Siri is a personal assistant and it’s going to show up in the battery. But if you’d completely disabled everything related to Siri including “Learn from this app” for every app individually too then that’s a different thing.
My expectation is quite simple: I don't want that Siri is working in the background if i disabled Siri. Right now Siri is disabled.
And even if I have Siri enabled and restricted to a manual use and do not allow to learn from apps i don't see a reason to pop up and consuming energy.
And even if I have Siri enabled and restricted to a manual use and do not allow to learn from apps i don't see a reason to pop up and consuming energy.
Siri is hard-coded into iOS and the integration is only getting deeper. There’s no one switch to turn it off completely and it’s expected behavior unless you’re experiencing “actual” battery drain like @Sillybill. But in your case the energy usage for Siri is negligible.
Can you accept that i've followed this thread and postet into it, because i figured the same behavior in another iOS Version as @Sillybill and I just answered him regarding his questions because he mentioned me?
I'm experiencing still a drain (a lot more today than the days before) and Siri is still showing up, weather you like it or try to convince me, that it is expected by Apple.
Would be much appreciated!
I'm experiencing still a drain (a lot more today than the days before) and Siri is still showing up, weather you like it or try to convince me, that it is expected by Apple.
Would be much appreciated!
This is interesting. This topic was quiet for the last two weeks and suddenly became active again. In my case, I did disable Siri completely on my phone and my battery life was great again. And suddenly, Siri started to consume battery again. Out of the blue, even if its disabled.
I'm wondering now, if this maybe some iCloud issue.
I'm wondering now, if this maybe some iCloud issue.
For me, it was the Apple Music app on both my iPad Pro 12.9 3rd gen and iPhone 11 Pro Max—completely draining the battery when the devices were asleep, both on iOS/iPad OS 13.3.1
Here's the thing, I had background refresh, cellular data, and everything shut off for the Music app—and I don't even have Apple Music nor have I ever used it!
Deleted the app on both devices and have been fine so far since.
This is some seriously crap OS software, Apple.
Here's the thing, I had background refresh, cellular data, and everything shut off for the Music app—and I don't even have Apple Music nor have I ever used it!
Deleted the app on both devices and have been fine so far since.
This is some seriously crap OS software, Apple.
Yesterday I did an experiment and I tried not to use my phone at all. I had two 10 minutes phone calls and received a few messages (not read though).
Interesting is, that even Siri is completely turned off, it uses 24% of the battery. To me, something is seriously wrong with iOS 13.
Interesting is, that even Siri is completely turned off, it uses 24% of the battery. To me, something is seriously wrong with iOS 13.
Is this something that you experience often? If so, try signing out of iCloud and signing back in. Most of the times it's the iCloud syncing issues that keeps the iPhone awake and it doesn't even show in the usage.
For me the issue started a week ago. What is really strange for me is the flashlight app eating battery while I didn’t use the flashlight at all. I see 4 hours of flashlight use in the statistics. Could it be a “hidden “ app that isn’t recognized by the system so crazy names appear in the usage list?
I had this issue with the flashlightin one of the earlier betas of iOS 13, right nowI haven't seen it again. Unfortunately i still havin the Siri Issue in the current Beta 4, so this hasn't been solved. Have openend a Ticket at Apple and we'll see what comes back.
My phone seems to be back to normal. No more background acivities. I have suspicion, that the issue was caused by large amount of photos uploaded to icloud, which then could keep the phone busy indexing. But Photos app was not on battery consumption list.
Hello.
I had no problem with my IPhone X, but when I recently upgraded to IPhone XR this problem started. I posted the pictures below. I factory reset my phone after 2 days of Siri draining my battery in half a day. It did not resolve the issue. I am desperate. What is there to do, because it frustrates me extremely.A phone is for you to resolve problems, make your life easier, but this is exactly the opposite. What can i do?
I had no problem with my IPhone X, but when I recently upgraded to IPhone XR this problem started. I posted the pictures below. I factory reset my phone after 2 days of Siri draining my battery in half a day. It did not resolve the issue. I am desperate. What is there to do, because it frustrates me extremely.A phone is for you to resolve problems, make your life easier, but this is exactly the opposite. What can i do?
Your battery usage indicates an issue and it looks like high Siri usage from back in the day due to captive portals being ignored.
A captive portal wifi network is a network that requires you to use Safari to log in. These are networks generally found at gyms, hotels, restaurants, etc. But they can be found even at your house with many ISP's allowing their customers to connect to free hotspots.
Captive portals can become a problem with Wifi Assist. Being connected to a wifi network and refreshing login data while using LTE/4G because the network doesn't have a internet access can wreak havoc on the battery.
Go to settings > wifi and look for captive networks. For example...
If you don't use it tap "Forget This Network". If you do use it toggle off "Auto-Join".
If you don't see any captive portals know that the usage could be from another task after a restore from spotlight database rebuilding (SPOTLIGHT IS NOW SIRI BTW) or other iCloud services like Faces in photos. However it still might not be a bad idea to goto Settings > General > Reset > Reset Network Settings. From there only use one or two wifi networks (home and work) for a couple days to see if the issue improves.
If you have a Mac using the same iCloud you can see Preferred Networks that aren't in range. Removing captive portals from there can prevent you from needing to do a network reset.
The above is just a shot in the dark but this issue (impossible Siri usage like using 1m of Siri more than 1 1/2 hours of Facebook) was a thing a few iOS's ago. Again this only applies to people that have high Siri usage with low time that are higher on the battery usage chart then obvious heavy battery using items like hours of Facebook or Phone.... It should be obvious since the battery can't discharge more in 1 minute then Facebook uses in 1 1/2 hours, the battery would literally over heat in a fraction of a second if that was accurate data.
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I have the same Problem as the Alex etc. Siri drains sometimes 97 percent...
This just suddenly occurred...
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This just suddenly occurred...
Siri drains 27 percent
Hey guys. The headline says it. Take the phone off the hook at 8:30 every day. Siri has been vacuuming my battery for two days and I don't know why. I never use Siri. What’s this
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Thank you so much my dear friend. This is by far the most comprehensive response i have ever received on any of my questions posted on any forum since like forever. So thank you. This morning took it off charger at 9 am. It is 18.00 pm and after using it at a normal rate i have about 50%. It is not perfect but still a substantial change in comparison to yesterday when following the aame pattern at 12 o’clock i had 20 something percent. So what i did was reset the network settings this morning. But last night i spoted that some of my apps had the small icloud icon with a small arrow pointing down in the bottom Left corner of the icon. So I figured that they did not download completely from the clod so Siri was trying to do what it does to index them, lern from them whatever and could not do because they were not installed yet. Sooooo i touched eeeevery one of them to download and go in app for a sec or two. Did that twice. Close all of of them. Restart the device. And this morning did the network reset. So not sure what worked. But something did. I will reply soon with updates.
Ok so I come with the update. It is still not resolved. Now Siri ussage is still there, not so high as before but still present even though i did not use it at all. I still have listen for Hey siri off. What else is there to do? Is it not done with indexing? Is it the new phone battery drainage simptom? It is driving me maaaad!!!! I am considering installing the public beta profile and see if this changes anithing. All though i will wait a few more days and see if something changes for the better and if not then i will go beta.