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nick_elt

macrumors 68000
Oct 28, 2011
1,578
0
im always pushing an imaginary back button on my iPad after using my phone all day.
 

fredaroony

macrumors 6502a
Aug 1, 2011
670
0
iOS is so simple it's actually more difficult to use. The competition has figured out how to do most of the same things faster and easier.

I can't tell you how many times I think the back button is upper left where it usually is only to discover its upper right this time.

Or navigating through the iOS settings menu. What a chore. What a mess.

Lack of dedicated menu button in apps.

Inability to queue. Having to scroll ceaselessly to get to a bottom of a page (boy I hate hitting the link for the previous page in forum threads then having to scroll all the way down just to see what the last post was on that given page). Turning on and off private browsing. Etc.

There are so many examples. So many...

iOS is an operating system that reeks of limitations. Everything is so manual. Requiring jumping through hoops to accomplish.

People keep calling these different ways of doing things "preferences". You can make that argument all you want. One way is slower and harder while the competition is offering easier ways to do most things.

Indeed, why cant they just make shortcuts or configurable icons for wifi or personal hotspot??
 

tjl3

macrumors 6502a
Mar 8, 2012
595
4
Your comparing windows on a PC & Mac desktop to apps that are full screen on a phone? Bad example.

Yup, bad example, classic failure b/c exiting the web browser to go back to the email application is so unheard of and uncivilized that it is a classic failure. No, Android has its own simple implementation where iOS has chosen to go the typical route.
 

Dave.UK

macrumors 65816
Sep 24, 2012
1,290
482
Kent, UK
Yup, bad example, classic failure b/c exiting the web browser to go back to the email application is so unheard of and uncivilized that it is a classic failure. No, Android has its own simple implementation where iOS has chosen to go the typical route.

So your saying ios has gone the typical route of a PC, rather then adapting and adjusting the process and making it simpler for a mobile device like Android has?

So much for the so called smartest mobile operating system :rolleyes:
 

maxosx

macrumors 68020
Dec 13, 2012
2,385
1
Southern California
It sure does. But there are only so many ways iOS allows you to do certain tasks. In some cases there's only one way. In some cases there are no ways (I'm looking at you personal dictionary). I find this is the case far more times with iOS than with android.

Very true. Android has always been ahead of Apple when it comes to many things.

Look how long Apple kept iPhone users locked in to iTunes via a wire. Sync requiring a cable was pathetic.

Finally years later they decide to join the modern era and allow wireless updates.
 

iCole

macrumors regular
Jun 10, 2010
190
21
Using iOS in general is much simpeler than Android. Wanting to do something that is considered to be obvious is generally harder on iOS. ;)
 

thehustleman

macrumors 65816
Jan 3, 2013
1,123
1
iOS is so simple it's actually more difficult to use. The competition has figured out how to do most of the same things faster and easier.

I can't tell you how many times I think the back button is upper left where it usually is only to discover its upper right this time.

Or navigating through the iOS settings menu. What a chore. What a mess.

Lack of dedicated menu button in apps.

Inability to queue. Having to scroll ceaselessly to get to a bottom of a page (boy I hate hitting the link for the previous page in forum threads then having to scroll all the way down just to see what the last post was on that given page). Turning on and off private browsing. Etc.

There are so many examples. So many...

iOS is an operating system that reeks of limitations. Everything is so manual. Requiring jumping through hoops to accomplish.

People keep calling these different ways of doing things "preferences". You can make that argument all you want. One way is slower and harder while the competition is offering easier ways to do most things.

You are speaking the truth, things like that (you know, FACTS) don't go over well around these parts!

Also another fun fact, when trying to turn on the mobile hotspot is waaaaaaay easier on Android.

It's the truth, Android is easier that ios to learn
 

tjl3

macrumors 6502a
Mar 8, 2012
595
4
You are speaking the truth, things like that (you know, FACTS) don't go over well around these parts!

Also another fun fact, when trying to turn on the mobile hotspot is waaaaaaay easier on Android.

It's the truth, Android is easier that ios to learn

Not sure if serious...

iOS: Settings>Personal Hotspot>On

Android: Settings>More>Tethering & portable hotspot>Portable Wi-Fi hotspot

If you're talking about having a toggle switch, can't argue with you there.
 

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
11,959
2,156
Not sure if serious...

iOS: Settings>Personal Hotspot>On

Android: Settings>More>Tethering & portable hotspot>Portable Wi-Fi hotspot

If you're talking about having a toggle switch, can't argue with you there.

In iOS isn't it.

Settings > General > Cellular > Personal Hotspot ?

I don't have it activated so maybe it changes if you do? Or varies per carrier?

Side note, every time I goto "cellular" on my 4S I start getting an error message that my phone doesn't have cellular data plan. I need to reboot to fix it, very annoying.
 

thehustleman

macrumors 65816
Jan 3, 2013
1,123
1
Not sure if serious...

iOS: Settings>Personal Hotspot>On

Android: Settings>More>Tethering & portable hotspot>Portable Wi-Fi hotspot

If you're talking about having a toggle switch, can't argue with you there.

You're wrong. It's settings, general, cellular data, personal hot spot.

With android you pull down and tap the toggle.

Simple.
 

MsvSpaz

macrumors newbie
Feb 15, 2011
26
1
You're wrong. It's settings, general, cellular data, personal hot spot.

With android you pull down and tap the toggle.

Simple.
He is actually right. They moved it to the main settings in, I think, the ios5 update or somewhere around there.
No denying it is easier with a toggle in Android though.
 

Radiating

macrumors 65816
Dec 29, 2011
1,018
7
"Those responding to the survey liked the way that the Korean manufacturer's devices were compatible with other standards and brands, including accessories and devices. Those surveyed also liked the ease of transferring files on the Samsung devices...

It should be pointed out that Samsung is a client of Siegel+Gale while Apple is not."

What? The Galaxy S3 was the most bug riddled peice of junk I have ever used. It wasn't compatible with half the stuff I tried with it.

The iPhone has had virtually no compatability issues because all of it's accessories are specifically made for it instead of a billion other devices.

I also am not sure what is going on with the file transfer nonsense, that sounds like this company is a marketing front for Samsung and is trying to push their NFC nonsense.
 

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
11,959
2,156
He is actually right. They moved it to the main settings in, I think, the ios5 update or somewhere around there.
No denying it is easier with a toggle in Android though.

I'm on iOS 6.1.3 and its Settings > General > Cellular > Personal Hotspot. Verizon 4S. But like I mentioned I don't have that function so maybe it moves if you do.

I REALLY need to stop looking at that setting cellular page!! Requires a reboot every time.
 

Tinmania

macrumors 68040
Aug 8, 2011
3,528
1,016
Aridzona
Gotcha. So does that only work that way when jumped over from a linked email?
As already stated it works for just about anything that might take you from one app to another (in addition, of course, to going back within the app itself).

An example: I am in the app Pulse reading a story about a new app. Pulse doesn't show reader comments so I choose to open it in Chrome to read the comments. While reading it in Chrome there is a link to the Play store to download the app. I go there and download it.

When I tap the back button in the Play store it will take me back to Chrome, and when I tap it again in Chrome it takes me back to Pulse--right where I left off.




Michael
 

Tinmania

macrumors 68040
Aug 8, 2011
3,528
1,016
Aridzona
Not sure if serious...

iOS: Settings>Personal Hotspot>On

Android: Settings>More>Tethering & portable hotspot>Portable Wi-Fi hotspot

If you're talking about having a toggle switch, can't argue with you there.
Not sure if you are serious but it's a mere swipe down on Android. A perfect example where Apple is just being plain stubborn by forcing people into the settings app for every little thing--including to change things in apps. Well, usually. Sometimes settings are in the app itself. And sometimes settings are in the app itself and other settings are in the Settings app. Oh what joy!



Michael
 

MsvSpaz

macrumors newbie
Feb 15, 2011
26
1
Well on the iPhone 5 on ios 6.1.2, that I am holding in my hand, it is where he said, in the main settings.


This is where Personal Hotspot resides on an Australian delivered iPhone 5 on iOS 6.1.2. I am wondering if it is different for US delivered iPhones due to the restrictions on tethering there. Anyone know?

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xraydoc

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Oct 9, 2005
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This is where Personal Hotspot resides on an Australian delivered iPhone 5 on iOS 6.1.2. I am wondering if it is different for US delivered iPhones due to the restrictions on tethering there. Anyone know?

[ATTACH]408327[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]

Same place on the US phones.
 

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
11,959
2,156
As already stated it works for just about anything that might take you from one app to another (in addition, of course, to going back within the app itself).

An example: I am in the app Pulse reading a story about a new app. Pulse doesn't show reader comments so I choose to open it in Chrome to read the comments. While reading it in Chrome there is a link to the Play store to download the app. I go there and download it.

When I tap the back button in the Play store it will take me back to Chrome, and when I tap it again in Chrome it takes me back to Pulse--right where I left off.




Michael

Yep, this is annoying in iOS. Quite frequently I'll double tap the home button to go back to an app I was bumped out of by a link. I quickly touch the icon on the far left to late to realize I was bumped two apps away so I have to start the process again. If I'm really not paying attention I'll do it again which will put me back exactly where I started.

I probably due this because I started on Android that had a back button. I miss it but its not something I can't live without but it does streamline how the device works.

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This is where Personal Hotspot resides on an Australian delivered iPhone 5 on iOS 6.1.2. I am wondering if it is different for US delivered iPhones due to the restrictions on tethering there. Anyone know?

[ATTACH]408327[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]

It's not there on mine.

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It's here.

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US Verizon 4S on iOS 6.1.3

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OMGZ FRAGMENTATION!!! Lol

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Same place on the US phones.

See above.
 

Tinmania

macrumors 68040
Aug 8, 2011
3,528
1,016
Aridzona
Yep, this is annoying in iOS. Quite frequently I'll double tap the home button to go back to an app I was bumped out of by a link. I quickly touch the icon on the far left to late to realize I was bumped two apps away so I have to start the process again. If I'm really not paying attention I'll do it again which will put me back exactly where I started.
Where I find it particularly annoying is when I am yanked out of an app and into Safari without realizing it would happen (e.g., there is a "Tips" button that I assumed would simply display a page of text in the app that instead takes me to a web page). And then there is the real killa! Getting yanked into the browser only to be bounced to the app store. Grrrrr.

Now, granted, those same things can happen on Android too. But it is much nicer being able to just use the back button to go back.



Michael
 

tjl3

macrumors 6502a
Mar 8, 2012
595
4

I guess I need to jump in...

Since you clearly know what you are talking about, the setup screen is what cynics has shown. Once you allow it, it will create a shortcut under the settings menu so that it is indeed 3 clicks.

I know for certain that your GS3 doesn't come set up w/ tethering, so you'd need to configure it as well.

But in the end I guess you win, 3 clicks is easier than 2 =/ Yes Android is easier b/c it allows quick toggles.
 
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