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Fishrrman

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With a price like bestbuy's $1,599 (for the base model), I'd have to say that the base model (16gb RAM, 512gb SSD) starts lookin pretty "sweet"...
 

wilberforce

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Guys, for M1 macbook pro 14 inch how much is the difference between 8 core cpu and 10 core cpu would make in terms of performance? I
Well, it depends what you are doing. For normal day-to-day use, none. For CPU intensive tasks (when all CPU cores are maxed out), in the order of 20% less time to execute. There are lots of comparisons on youtube.
You need to think about how often and long you put maximum demand on the CPU, and decide if the time saved is worth it to you.
This does not apply for things that depend mainly on the GPU and video encoders, for which there will be no difference.
I got the 8-core and have no regrets, for what I do (photo and graphics editing and creation).
 
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mdhaus72

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LOL there you go again, assuming my workflow.

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really, this screams i'm not running out of ram? 😂 😂 😂
I'm not sure how many times this needs to be explained to you...but we'll try again: MacOS is designed to utilize the full RAM pool it has and take advantage of it. So no, you're not "running out of RAM." The OS expands as much as it needs to...and then starts moving things around as needed in order to handle tasks as they come up. If you had an 8 GB machine, it would be doing the same thing. And it's the same with 32 GB of RAM. Yes, your 64 GB machine will obviously take longer to get to that point...but the OS will indeed take advantage of what it has.
 

mdhaus72

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you could also get a nicely spec newly designed air with m2.
The base model Pro that he is referencing is a better computer. The M1 Pro and M1 Max chips are better than the M2 chips. Plus, you get a better screen.
 

ilikewhey

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I'm not sure how many times this needs to be explained to you...but we'll try again: MacOS is designed to utilize the full RAM pool it has and take advantage of it. So no, you're not "running out of RAM." The OS expands as much as it needs to...and then starts moving things around as needed in order to handle tasks as they come up. If you had an 8 GB machine, it would be doing the same thing. And it's the same with 32 GB of RAM. Yes, your 64 GB machine will obviously take longer to get to that point...but the OS will indeed take advantage of what it has.

my mba usage usually floats around yellow and occasionally red, so what you imposing is you are right and apple is wrong about their own software? ok.
 

mdhaus72

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my mba usage usually floats around yellow and occasionally red, so what you imposing is you are right and apple is wrong about their own software? ok.
How am I saying that Apple is wrong about their own software? What I'm saying is that MacOS is programmed to take advantage of the RAM pool that it is given. Because of this, it is NOT uncommon to run into yellow and red in memory pressure. When it does, MacOS will adjust accordingly.
 

ilikewhey

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How am I saying that Apple is wrong about their own software? What I'm saying is that MacOS is programmed to take advantage of the RAM pool that it is given. Because of this, it is NOT uncommon to run into yellow and red in memory pressure. When it does, MacOS will adjust accordingly.
yeah by mem swapping, theres only so much osx can compress. during heavy swap above 6gb you do feel the system slowing down very noticeably.
 
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rmadsen3

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yeah by mem swapping, theres only so much osx can compress. during heavy swap above 6gb you do feel the system slowing down very noticeably.
The 11-in MBA that I've been using all these years swaps all the time. Last month I bought MBP with 32GB RAM. Zero swap. It's great. I returned it and I have MBA (24GB) on the way. Curious to see how the RAM numbers stack up. On the MBP I saw, usually, 19GB in use--kinda high compared to the 24GB limit of MBA--but I wonder how much of that 19GB is from macOS 'spreading out' to utilize available resources? I don't understand RAM very much but I sure do like when the device has got headroom!
 

ilikewhey

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The 11-in MBA that I've been using all these years swaps all the time. Last month I bought MBP with 32GB RAM. Zero swap. It's great. I returned it and I have MBA (24GB) on the way. Curious to see how the RAM numbers stack up. On the MBP I saw, usually, 19GB in use--kinda high compared to the 24GB limit of MBA--but I wonder how much of that 19GB is from macOS 'spreading out' to utilize available resources? I don't understand RAM very much but I sure do like when the device has got headroom!
i know my workflow require somewhere from 30-40gb since i have a 64gb ram pc desktop i have on the side, but yet same workflow is around 53gb on avg on osx. so i would say give or take 10gb.
 
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mdhaus72

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yeah by mem swapping, theres only so much osx can compress. during heavy swap above 6gb you do feel the system slowing down very noticeably.
No, not really. If you're noticing that big of a difference, then something else is going on. That hasn't been our experience at all. A lot of systems disc swap quite a bit and it's usually seamless with little to no impact.
 

mdhaus72

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The 11-in MBA that I've been using all these years swaps all the time. Last month I bought MBP with 32GB RAM. Zero swap. It's great. I returned it and I have MBA (24GB) on the way. Curious to see how the RAM numbers stack up. On the MBP I saw, usually, 19GB in use--kinda high compared to the 24GB limit of MBA--but I wonder how much of that 19GB is from macOS 'spreading out' to utilize available resources? I don't understand RAM very much but I sure do like when the device has got headroom!
A lot of it is indeed due to MacOS spreading out and using what it has. No matter what configuration you get, your system will spread out and utilize it eventually.
 
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ilikewhey

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No, not really. If you're noticing that big of a difference, then something else is going on. That hasn't been our experience at all. A lot of systems disc swap quite a bit and it's usually seamless with little to no impact.
yeah, really, unless you have the same exact workflow, stop comparing your experience with mine, and please, dont go down the road of "we push our machine just hard, if not harder" again, that just makes you look ignorant.
 

mdhaus72

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yeah, really, unless you have the same exact workflow, stop comparing your experience with mine, and please, dont go down the road of "we push our machine just hard, if not harder" again, that just makes you look ignorant.
How so? It's almost certainly true. The point is that these machines are designed to utilize the full amount of RAM. And if they end up having to disc swap, it's not a big deal - which has been proven in tests and real-world situations.
 

ilikewhey

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How so? It's almost certainly true. The point is that these machines are designed to utilize the full amount of RAM. And if they end up having to disc swap, it's not a big deal - which has been proven in tests and real-world situations.
i already explained it previously, both the usage and consequence. so according to your logic red memory pressure and over 8gb of swap is ok too right? 🤣
 

mdhaus72

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It depends a bit...but generally, most users are not going to be significantly impacted by their machine having to disc swap. It's just not that big of a deal, thanks to the speed of the RAM and hard drives that Apple is using.
 
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