I can't think of a state more economically or politically backwards than WV, but certainly many countries are.
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I can't think of a state more economically or politically backwards than WV, but certainly many countries are.
What makes you think WV is economically and politically backwards? I am curious since most of my time in WV is driving through the state going to Pittsburgh or working
It's pretty self-evident. However, there are parts that are starting to turn around, at least economically.
It wasn't self-evident to me which is why I asked. Since I will be there for 2 weeks I plan on getting out when I am not working
Let's see. The state is horribly impoverished, they barely have an economy, they're still fixated on coal mining and blowing up mountains to get coal, heroin usage is high, and the state went for Trump against their own interests and needs. It's still a gorgeous state, especially in the mountains in the East.
From someone who just switched myself. Do not use your AT&T iPhone with Verizon. You will regret it. Like someone said, it isn't recommended to use as it doesn't work properly. You are stuck on LTE, which with Verizon, didn't work in most buildings. And when you lost it, you were SOL. When you are on the phone, you don't get emails either because there is nothing the phone can fall back on.
You have it backwards. With CDMA, you can't have talk and data at the same time unless you have SVDO, which I don't believe any iPhone ever supported. With VoLTE, you will have both, as VoLTE runs on top of LTE. The ideal would be a Qualcomm iPhone if it had the option to disable CDMA. The Intel iPhones will perform worse, because the Intel radios just aren't as good, but keep in mind that ALL Verizon phones will be relying 100% on LTE on January 1, 2020, as the CDMA network is going to be shut down for phones on December 31, 2019, with a small sliver of 1x remaining for 2 more years for M2M/IoT. The other issue is that once a Verizon phones decides LTE is too weak, CDMA is so weak that it's useless anyway except for maybe texting.
Well, I am not going by what you may read or assume. I have personal experience and this is the way it works on my phone. I own it, you don't.
You're just wrong. I can't find any evidence that any iPhone ever supported SVDO or SVLTE, and VoLTE absolutely will get you simultaneous voice and data, as that's fundamentally how it works.
How am I wrong when I am the one who actually lived it and owned the devices and not you? Stop arguing with people about stuff you don't have experience on. I HAVE THE PHONE IN MY HANDS.
Edit: Here is what I am talking about. https://www.lifewire.com/use-data-and-voice-on-verizon-iphone-1999571
Verizon iPhones support it, AT&T ones do not (on Verizons network).
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1) I can talk and use data on Verizon
2) I took a Colorado band tour from Chicago and the Verizon customer was the only one in the car with reception.
2) I took a Colorado band tour from Chicago and the Verizon customer was the only one in the car with reception.
Seriously? You link to an article that specifically talks about VoLTE, yet you're claiming that the Verizon iPhone can do SVDO or SVLTE? Guess what? I see ZERO evidence that any iPhone has ever supported SVDO or SVLTE. They are all doing it through VoLTE, so it's irrelevant if the phone has CDMA radios or not.
It's possible that there is a bug in the way your phone was provisioned by Verizon that's preventing VoLTE from working, but that has NOTHING to do with whether the phone has CDMA or not, as I see zero evidence that Verizon iPhones have ever supported SVDO or SVLTE. They did not get simultaneous voice and data until Verizon and Apple both supported VoLTE.
If something is wrong with the way Verizon provisioned your phone, then you need to contact Verizon to get it worked out, as it has nothing to do with the technical capabilities of the phone.
FWIW, I've noticed more issues with VZW iPhone X and weak reception than any iPhone in recent memory. Just some of the common issues: falling back to 3G and refusing to re-initiate LTE coverage (unless I toggle airplane mode), 1x coverage showing up and persisting regardless of changing location, 1 or 2 bars of LTE signal jumping to 3 or 4 after toggling airplane mode. And don't even get me started with WiFi hanging on to 1 or 2 bars of signal to the point that apps indicate no internet access (typical situation: walk out of a hotel, get into car, open Waze to enter address, phone stays locked to faint hotel wifi signal for minutes until Waze gives up and tells me I have no data access - I have to manually enter Control Center and click off the Wifi, then give the phone a minute to figure out the cellular situation).
It's like I'm constantly fighting this damned phone to hold/maintain cellular and/or WiFi signal and I'm pretty tired of it, to the point I've considered giving AT&T (and an AT&T iPhone model) a shot. I've tried resetting network settings, restoring the phone as new, and tried different combinations of roaming settings and nothing appears to work. Most of my time is spent in NC, SC, GA, FL, VA, PA, and AZ, so this hasn't been a specific location-based set of issues.
I'm still on a grandfathered VZW unlimited plan (mainly because I'm being lazy) however I assume that has nothing to do with my issues, as they weren't nearly as prevalent with prior iPhones.
Open to suggestions over here.
It's like I'm constantly fighting this damned phone to hold/maintain cellular and/or WiFi signal and I'm pretty tired of it, to the point I've considered giving AT&T (and an AT&T iPhone model) a shot. I've tried resetting network settings, restoring the phone as new, and tried different combinations of roaming settings and nothing appears to work. Most of my time is spent in NC, SC, GA, FL, VA, PA, and AZ, so this hasn't been a specific location-based set of issues.
I'm still on a grandfathered VZW unlimited plan (mainly because I'm being lazy) however I assume that has nothing to do with my issues, as they weren't nearly as prevalent with prior iPhones.
Open to suggestions over here.
The AT&T (Intel) iPhone is worse than the Verizon (Qualcomm) iPhone. There is an ongoing debate about the X versus the 8 Plus, and the consensus is that the X is a bit weaker, but the difference isn't as much as the AT&T versus Verizon iPhone. A Verizon iPhone will work 100% on AT&T, and in fact work better than an AT&T iPhone, since it has a Qualcomm radio.
The Wi-Fi issue is something that all phones seem to have, I know exactly what you're talking about, as it happens on Android phones as well.
You're in more Verizon markets than AT&T markets, although both are probably good if you're mostly in metro areas, and some historically Verizon markets are now pretty competitive, especially in the 'burbs. Unfortunately, you can't just turn off CDMA, which would be the ideal way to make a Verizon phone work better and not hang on to useless 1x/3G signals.
I was showing you what it took to get combination of voice and data to work where the AT&T phone doesn't support on Verizon network. Stop wasting peoples time here on stuff you have no clue about.
The AT&T phone supports VoLTE and simultaneous voice and data via VoLTE. If it's not working on your Verizon line, call customer service, and good luck, because they are probably clueless about provisioning Intel iPhones, since they are so rare. However, they functionality is 100% absolutely there, so Verizon screwed something up with your line or SIM card if it's not actually working. Or they're purposely blocking it, which would make zero sense. It's probably a dumb goober, since they have so few LTE-only devices on the network right now.
[doublepost=1531317113][/doublepost]You shouldn't be misleading people suggesting that an AT&T iPhone *can't* do simultaneous voice and data on Verizon's network, as it *can* if someone can actually get Verizon to provision the service properly. Verizon iPhones ALSO require VoLTE, since they don't do, and never have done, SVDO or SVLTE.
No, you are misleading people. I am done here. From someone who actually owns the phone and experience it, don't use an AT&T phone on Verizon.
Verizon has always been a non-starter for me. The lack of simultaneous voice and data for many years was a key issue, as was the fact that every home I've lived in the better part of a decade wasn't/isn't covered by Verizon, but is covered by AT&T.
My understanding with the relatively recent introduction of simultaneous voice/data on Verizon is that it requires LTE, which means if you're in an area that doesn't have LTE and have to rely on the 3g/4g towers, you're back to non-simultaneity, which just plain sucks.
Maybe that's actually the case anymore, but the lack of Verizon coverage where I live still makes them a non-option for me.
My understanding with the relatively recent introduction of simultaneous voice/data on Verizon is that it requires LTE, which means if you're in an area that doesn't have LTE and have to rely on the 3g/4g towers, you're back to non-simultaneity, which just plain sucks.
Maybe that's actually the case anymore, but the lack of Verizon coverage where I live still makes them a non-option for me.
I am not misleading people. The fact of the matter is that AT&T iPhones support VoLTE on Verizon's network. If you are having a provisioning problem with Verizon, contact Verizon to get it straightened out. I see no reason why they would purposefully cripple an AT&T iPhone if they are letting them on the network in the first place.
Verizon's network is effectively 100% overlaid in LTE, so that's not an issue anymore. Verizon never deployed Faux G like AT&T, which did support simultaneous voice and data before LTE.
That would be a good reason not to have Verizon. AT&T actually covers more POPs, probably due to having service in PR, and Verizon having roaming partners for several LTE areas in the US. However, it depends highly by region, there are definitely areas where Verizon is the only real game in town, as there are other areas where that's the case for AT&T.
If you are on the phone, you are using LTE. To use Data, it falls back to 3G while on the phone. And that requires CDMA. Last post towards you since it's obvious you don't get it.
Then that's a provisioning issue which should be fixable. My phone definitely uses LTE for both simultaneously.