After few months with windows and Linux…You’ll be back screaming
After few months with windows and Linux…You’ll be back screaming
The OS that sent all of your displays into grey linen mode if one of them was full screen?In terms of a carefully planned UI appearance, Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion was the pinnacle of personal computer operating systems.
I run it on my intel iMac. It’s fantastic!not liking rounded corners, and abandoning the platform because of that? hmmm. i use an OS because of how it works, how it supports the apps i need (and personally, i look at the content in windows, not the corners of windows)...
I’m in the minority o on this forum, but I think Liquid Glass hasn’t gone far enough! It looked amazing in the reveal, and promised the end of a flat and lifeless interface. While it has brought a bit of life and depth, there’s still a lot of flatness.
Yeah, un-updated apps are a bit jarring, but it always took a bit of time for most software to transition to new looks. If I recall, I think it was a couple of years before all my apps had the life flattened out of them when Apple went to the flat look, so I expect that over the next 18 months most apps will have adjusted.i was of that opinion initially, as well (regarding the Liquid Glass effect not going far enough), however one thing that is so incredibly jarring to me is 3rd party apps--and thus, I am now of the opinion that if there won't be widespread adoption of this glass look by major 3rd party iOS/MacOS apps (Spotify, Google Suite, banking apps, e.g.), then it should be minimally implemented. A lack of cohesion, is in my opinion, a worse offence than a few transparency issues in original iteration.
There was a level between Liquid Glass and the flat interfaces that Apple could've achieved (and achieved quite well, imo, with Big Sur--although I would've preferred that design language on iOS rather than MacOS), that wouldn't make switching from a native app to a 3rd party app completely jarring and un-uniform.
Yeah, un-updated apps are a bit jarring, but it always took a bit of time for most software to transition to new looks. If I recall, I think it was a couple of years before all my apps had the life flattened out of them when Apple went to the flat look, so I expect that over the next 18 months most apps will have adjusted.
That's a loaded question, I'm dissatisfied at how spotlight presents itself, and how some of the UI decisions - too monochrome for instance. So from that perspective, I'd say inferior, but those are very specific and targeted examples.
My overall opinion is nearly the same as Sequoia . I know that doesn't make sense, but overall my workflow, and interaction hasn't suffered even if I dislike how something work and look.
At least on Windows there exists tooling to revert the rounded corners back to square ones.But as bad as it's getting, Windows is getting worse even more rapidly
That’s not borderline crazy. That’s just regular crazy.I have still not "updated" to Tahoe since I get downright aggressive when thinking about those rounded corners. That might sound like a borderline crazy thing, but to me it indicates that Apples totally lost their collective sense of design and general thinking.
For phones I do not care much and iPads are only useful for media consumption and drawing anyway so if they want to waste that overpowered chip on drawing wobbly simulated water/glass I guess it is ok. But on the Mac I actually do stuff and need performance and the OS to stay in the background. So for the first time in 20+ years I have not "updated" and still sit on Sequoia which works good enough. I mean, it was of course fun when OS X with Aqua was a new thing , it was also slow as hell and wasted space, but this thing is not even consistent it its implementation.
I really hope that Mac OS 27 brings back sanity. I would be ok with the default looking like children's toys so that the brain-rot crowd can make their AI-slop, but please let at least allow for a "pro" look with normalized, more square corners that let the content be front and center.
Is there hope? anything in 26.3 or 26.4 that point in any way towards fixes?
I guess only time will tell, but I think the majority of apps will adapt.Perhaps I am cynical, but I don't see the same "speed" for 3rd parties to adopt the new Liquid Glass look as they did for iOS 7's flat redesign (even 18mos). Namely because there's no meaningful usability benefit in doing so. The iOS 7 redesign was to bring more clarity to one's content by removing unnecessary ornamentation (that was once required to help people adopt to the mobile experience).
If VR/AR adoption was rising exponentially, then perhaps app developers could be moved to integrate Liquid Glass into their design languages, as it would almost be their "testing ground" for developing future VisionOS apps; but not even Meta's much cheaper AR/VR devices are a lucrative enough market for companies to put the R&D towards adopting a virtual-ready design language (which I believe Liquid Glass is).
Should Apple's rumoured cheaper AR device begin to have a promising level of early adoption, I could see developers begin to take Liquid Glass seriously. But as I see it now, 3rd party Liquid Glass adoption will be limited; a few rounded menu bars, some more blur and translucency, and that's it--and I believe Apple themselves realized that, and it's why we're seeing a much less intense Liquid Glass in iOS 26.2 than we did in the WWDC presentation.
Very well said, thank you!++ I've avoided Tahoe on my Macs because they are 100 percent work machines only. That's all I use them for, to get work done for my business. I'm not going to launch into some kind of TED Talk about how Liquid Glass is empirically counter to the needs of my work, but personally I find it beat-it-with-a-stick ugly, and the rounded corners in particular a ridiculous affectation. I don't want to look at it all day, and prefer the relative blandness of what came before it. So I'm avoiding Tahoe until either Apple fixes it, or something better arrives, or I need to upgrade due to the requirements of my workflow.
That would make sense if it was supposed to "fit" into the corners, but it's not. The menu bar fits into the rounded corners. The rest of the desktop area is strictly rectangular.Don’t get the hate on the rounded corners. The corners match the border radius of the physical border radius of the display, so what’s the issue?
I said, "In terms of a carefully planned UI appearance," not in terms of stability and reliability. (In terms of stability and reliability, Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard was the pinnacle.)The OS that sent all of your displays into grey linen mode if one of them was full screen?
That was the peak?
Okay…
When they don’t change things, people complain they are boring and never change anything 🤷♂️Apple love making change for changes sake and the rounded corners seem to be another example of that seeing as they don’t improve anything in any way.