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eric/

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See my post quoting numbers. I like Apple stuff but there is no denying it is more expensive than the competition.

Initially the thread was about phones, so that's what I thought your comment was about.

Even with that being said, I don't really think Apple mobile devices are marked up. Are they more expensive? Sure. Does that mean they are marked up? Not necessarily.

The price you quoted, $329, was for what Android tablet? If we're going to compare, then let's compare.
 

likemyorbs

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This phone should be delivered tomorrow. I'll definitely be posting updates.
 

PhoenixMac

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I tried the android challenge for six months while waiting for the iPhone 5 to come out and while I loved my gnex I just missed the integration with the rest of my apple products.

For someone new to smart phones and doesn't have an ecosystem already built up its easier to pick between iOS vs android but for someone already deep in paid apps and work flow its hard to make a switch and not want to go back.

I compare it to Halo vs C.O.D. People usually tend to stick to whichever one they started playing first. But both are equally great in their own rights.
 

KaraH

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Initially the thread was about phones, so that's what I thought your comment was about.

Even with that being said, I don't really think Apple mobile devices are marked up. Are they more expensive? Sure. Does that mean they are marked up? Not necessarily.

The price you quoted, $329, was for what Android tablet? If we're going to compare, then let's compare.

Strange I thought the topic name was "Taking the Android challenge". Yes, the 329 was for an android pad and I have seen some androids with similar specs in the high 200s.

As to phones. I got my android phone with the standard 2 year contract so the usual no handset charge. I also have a MUCH less expensive plan that the iPhone because I was able to get data+pay as you go calling.
 

likemyorbs

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The phone came early and I have already started using it. First impression: GIVE ME MY IPHONE BACK!!

But that's only because it's going to take a lot of getting used to. What do you guys think is a good length of time for this experiment?
 

torana355

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The phone came early and I have already started using it. First impression: GIVE ME MY IPHONE BACK!!

But that's only because it's going to take a lot of getting used to. What do you guys think is a good length of time for this experiment?

At least a few weeks. Like i said earlier in this thread, if you don't enjoy tinkering just send the N4 back now. You get out what you put in with an Android phone, if you put some time in it can become an excellent device.
 

eric/

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Strange I thought the topic name was "Taking the Android challenge". Yes, the 329 was for an android pad and I have seen some androids with similar specs in the high 200s.

Yeah it's called taking the android challenge, then if you bothered to read the OP, you'd see it was about phones.

As to phones. I got my android phone with the standard 2 year contract so the usual no handset charge. I also have a MUCH less expensive plan that the iPhone because I was able to get data+pay as you go calling.

So you got a contract phone or a pay as you go phone?
 

raw8725

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The phone came early and I have already started using it. First impression: GIVE ME MY IPHONE BACK!!

But that's only because it's going to take a lot of getting used to. What do you guys think is a good length of time for this experiment?

Thats rubbish, Android jelly bean wipes the floor with iOS. I've had the S3, and the N4 and I use the iPhone5 at the moment. I'm in the process of getting the N7 tab with 3G and I'm going to ditch the iPhone5. The camera is the only decent thing on it.

How the heck do you know if you have messages or missed calls? There is NO flashing light on the iPhone. Typing is frickin terrible. Once you use a swipe application on Android you don't want to use anything else.

Everything on iOS is tightly controlled. I can't even change my message tones with custom tones, wtf? I download apps and get spammed up with adverts. Apple don't even allow an ad blocker.

I just heard Apple posted worst results in 10 years, I'm not surprised at all. Yes the iPhone5 is built so amazingly blah de blah, but thats it.

By the way the rubber on the edge of the N4 is a nice touch, its very grippy unlike the metal around the iPhone5. Oh and my phone is smudged up with finger prints like there is no tomorrow. :eek::confused::apple:
 

droidbook

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I have been android for about 5-6 years now and never going back...I've been very happy with my S2 (rooted with jellybean). Being rooted means clean OS no bloatware...... i have expandable memory and I can use it how I please and install what I want. No more Apple telling me what to do. Also with iTunes I can just drag and drop my music which I like better then automatically syncing everytime I connect my phone to my mac. There is an app you can purchase and install on your mac to sync your droid to your mac, I just prefer dragging and dropping. Also plenty of great apps no complaints here at all.
 

MacNut

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I have been android for about 5-6 years now and never going back...I've been very happy with my S2 (rooted with jellybean). Being rooted means clean OS no bloatware...... i have expandable memory and I can use it how I please and install what I want. No more Apple telling me what to do. Also with iTunes I can just drag and drop my music which I like better then automatically syncing everytime I connect my phone to my mac. There is an app you can purchase and install on your mac to sync your droid to your mac, I just prefer dragging and dropping. Also plenty of great apps no complaints here at all.
I am very tempted by Android now, once the S4 comes out I will compare that with the HTC One.
 

raw8725

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I have been android for about 5-6 years now and never going back...I've been very happy with my S2 (rooted with jellybean). Being rooted means clean OS no bloatware...... i have expandable memory and I can use it how I please and install what I want. No more Apple telling me what to do. Also with iTunes I can just drag and drop my music which I like better then automatically syncing everytime I connect my phone to my mac. There is an app you can purchase and install on your mac to sync your droid to your mac, I just prefer dragging and dropping. Also plenty of great apps no complaints here at all.

I hear you brother. Do you have any idea how many ridiculous patents Apple tries to take out to stop others developing good GUI experiences? iOS is a turkey compared to Jelly Bean. Its old and out of date. I feel like I'm in jail when I use the iPhone5. I have to obey by their rules, can't do no customisation.

Nice photography too on your website!
 

droidbook

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I hear you brother. Do you have any idea how many ridiculous patents Apple tries to take out to stop others developing good GUI experiences? iOS is a turkey compared to Jelly Bean. Its old and out of date. I feel like I'm in jail when I use the iPhone5. I have to obey by their rules, can't do no customisation.

Nice photography too on your website!


Yes very ridiculous how they are grabbing patents for everything and sometimes they sit there doing nothing trying to stop others or technology from advancing. lol yes I dont miss my iphone 3 at all, my girlfriend has a iphone 5 and I hate touching it lol.

Thanks for the comment on my site

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I am very tempted by Android now, once the S4 comes out I will compare that with the HTC One.

Yes Im very tempted by the HTC One especially the unlocked developers model. I may jump and buy it but also wanting to see what the Nexus 5 will be. Having the S2 im not really interested in the S4, lol i actually like the S2 design better.
 

MacNut

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Yes very ridiculous how they are grabbing patents for everything and sometimes they sit there doing nothing trying to stop others or technology from advancing. lol yes I dont miss my iphone 3 at all, my girlfriend has a iphone 5 and I hate touching it lol.

Thanks for the comment on my site

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Yes Im very tempted by the HTC One especially the unlocked developers model. I may jump and buy it but also wanting to see what the Nexus 5 will be. Having the S2 im not really interested in the S4, lol i actually like the S2 design better.
I am hearing the battery is not so great on the one, that and it isn't removable. I want to see some real hands on S4 reviews.
 

mib1800

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I did the exact same thing a few months back. I decided to give Nexus 4 and Android a try, but I ended up giving up just 13 days later. It's just not for me, who's accustomed to Apple's aesthetics and UI designs.

Many apps that come with Android are strewn with icons that are not so descriptive, and there's no labels telling you what they are. It took me two minutes to figure out where the alarm clock function is.

What are you talking about icon has no labels? In the app drawer app icons have labels.


And then Android reeks of inconsistency. A lot of the apps I downloaded still use the Android 2.X user interface, despite Holo, the design theme for Android 4.0, having existed for over a year. Some built-in apps (yes, built-in) have their buttons on the top and some have them on the bottom. The Back button, an always-present onscreen button, frequently takes you to places you may not have been to.

darn, I better stay away from back button...dont want to be zapped into the delta quadrant. :D

There's no fine grained privacy control. When you download an app, you agree to give out all the information the app wants. You can't, for example, disallow an app from obtaining your location. You can't disallow an app from gaining access to your contacts. You have to root the phone for this to happen. Android proudly presents itself as an OS that gives you fine control over things, but apparently this aspect falls short when compared to iOS.

With permissions shown to you upfront, then you can decide whether you should trust the app or not. If an app ask too many permissions that it requires to do its job then you should be wary of that app.

This is way better than IOS where users are left in the dark about what kind of permissions the app has access to. Actually app in IOS is given ALL permissions by default. You install the app and hope the app doesnt do anything detrimental.

Worse is that you only get prompted for "contact" and "location" access but what about all the rest of the permissions? If you dont give the permissions when the popup box asks for it then the app is virtually useless which leads us to why you want to install the app in the first place. And if you trust the app, you get annoyed with the irritating popup permission box everytime you use the app.

Switching keyboards also seems to be a rigmarole. As someone who also speaks other languages, I frequently switch between keyboards. Funny enough, a lot of the keyboards have their own way of switching, some will require you to tap and hold the space bar, some have a dedicated button. While you can pull down the notifications and select a keyboard from the list, the sheer size of the screen, and the time required to perform this, just makes it impractical.

Why don't you just stick with one keyboard? Obviously different keyboard apps operates differently (just like different twitter clients dont operate the same way) . I think you are making a fuss out of nothing.

At least you get to replace keyboard in Android unlike Iphone where you are stuck the with one archaic keyboard.
 

onthecouchagain

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I can't tell you how happy I am to be back on Android. It's like waking up from a bad nightmare. Almost everything is so much better and easier on Android. It's such a liberating feeling.
 

johnjefferson

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I can't tell you how happy I am to be back on Android. It's like waking up from a bad nightmare. Almost everything is so much better and easier on Android. It's such a liberating feeling.

You must have no Apple products in the house then, or your above statement would not be true.
 

johnjefferson

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Well, depends - if you just have a Mac, it's not that big a deal

It was for me. I would plug my Note 2 into my iMac and...nothing. It wouldnt even come up as a USB device since Samsung wants to force you into using Kies, which is awful. I plug my iPhone 5 into my iMac and iTunes opens to back everything up, sync my music, apps etc...iPhoto will open up so I can download my photos and videos and I still have photo stream sending my iPhone pics to my Macs and iPad. Its worlds easier to use an iPhone with Apple products, have to jump thru a ton of hoops with an Android phone and a Mac.
 
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