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[Doq]

How good are you with KDE btw?

There are two practical issues which I would appreciate help with:

1. For Katana (available for Linux from their upstream and for MacOS via my PPCPorts):
Text input in Konsole does not work, nothing reacts to keyboard at all. Menus work, GUI otherwise is normal. Text input in Kate etc works normally. So something is broken specifically for terminal or just Konsole.

2. For standard KDE4: cursed nepomuk does not run correctly and a lot of apps crash on launch. Maybe I just fail to set up dbus or smth else correctly. But Kate and many useful apps are broken in result. (Some do work though.)
MacPorts do not have a usable KDE4 installation, and I don’t have a complete one in PPCPorts, but I can make one in a day: it will install, but it is half-broken. If you know how to debug that, it would be great.

I'm not a developer like that. If I could see what was going on I could likely identify where the problem is but not really how to fix it. I also haven't really touched anything KDE4 in years (ever since Plasma 5 dropped in....2014!) so my familiarity has waned.

Does it fail to build from my port? If it does, then it is probably fixable, if you provide a log.

Well do I have an issue for you! (github.com)

 

[barracuda156]

haven't tried it, didn't know there was a Kate build for Leopard (so PowerPC, right ? not Snow Leopard/Intel, on the Kate web site only ARM and Intel are mentioned, not PowerPC, maybe you'd have a link ?).

It is not Qt6-based [yet], but I have fixed Katana version of it.

 

[barracuda156]

Well do I have an issue for you! (github.com)

I have a patch there which likely gonna solve the issue.

 

[barracuda156]

haven't tried it, didn't know there was a Kate build for Leopard (so PowerPC, right ? not Snow Leopard/Intel, on the Kate web site only ARM and Intel are mentioned, not PowerPC, maybe you'd have a link ?).

If you wanna try:

1. Assuming you have Xcode, install these two: https://macos-powerpc.org/PPCPorts/curl-Leopard-8.13.0-ppc_ppc64.zip

https://macos-powerpc.org/PPCPorts/PPCPorts-Leopard-2.10.7-ppc_ppc64.zip

(The final stage of installation takes time, since the script runs indexing of ports. It is not frozen, let it do its thing.)

2. If you had MacPorts installed earlier, edit `/opt/local/etc/macports/sources.conf` so that it looks like this:

rsync://macos-powerpc.org/macos-powerpc/PPCPorts/powerpc-ports.tar
rsync://rsync.macports.org/macports/release/tarballs/ports.tar [default]

3. Run `sudo port -v sync` to make sure everything is coherent.

4. Install the port which has Kate: `sudo port -v -N install katana-workspace`.

It will build a lot of stuff, if this is done from scratch. If something fails, please open an issue here: https://github.com/macos-powerpc/powerpc-ports/issues

 

[Alubook133]

@barracuda156, thanxx for the links. I don't have (yet) either Xcode or MacPorts, but if it allows to install Kate in Leopard (PPC) then I'll probably investigate (hopefully my 1,33GHz G4 with just 1,25GB RAM can handle all this).

 

[barracuda156]

@barracuda156, thanxx for the links. I don't have (yet) either Xcode or MacPorts, but if it allows to install Kate in Leopard (PPC) then I'll probably investigate (hopefully my 1,33GHz G4 with just 1,25GB RAM can handle all this).

If you had 10.6.8 ppc installed, it would be a matter of an hour (depending on your download speed). I do not have pre-built ports for 10.5.8 on 32-bit ppc, so everything should be built from source. I believe it should just work, without manual tweaking. But on a single core G4 it gonna take days of compilation. (It won’t be as painful every time, since you don’t need to build compilers and cmake with every other installation, but from scratch a lot is needed.)

 

[barracuda156]

New lite-xl with SDL3:

 

[Alubook133]

If you had 10.6.8 ppc installed, it would be a matter of an hour (depending on your download speed). I do not have pre-built ports for 10.5.8 on 32-bit ppc, so everything should be built from source. I believe it should just work, without manual tweaking. But on a single core G4 it gonna take days of compilation. (It won’t be as painful every time, since you don’t need to build compilers and cmake with every other installation, but from scratch a lot is needed.)

oops... that's what I was fearing, I have neither the right rig nor the savoir-faire to perform such tasks, plus my poor old Alubook would probably die before finishing the build... 😓
I was once interested in following the Snow Leopard 10.6.8 developments here, alas the G4 with NVidia GPU aren't supported (at least, they weren't last time I checked, and I very much doubt this has evolved due to the "N" word...)

 

[barracuda156]

oops... that's what I was fearing, I have neither the right rig nor the savoir-faire to perform such tasks, plus my poor old Alubook would probably die before finishing the build... 😓
I was once interested in following the Snow Leopard 10.6.8 developments here, alas the G4 with NVidia GPU aren't supported (at least, they weren't last time I checked, and I very much doubt this has evolved due to the "N" word...)

I don’t know what you refer to, but AFAIK Nvidia cards works perfectly fine, and are better supported than ATI. You can try running the OS from an external FW drive if you are afraid of messing things up.
I am sure at least one of my PowerBooks have an Nvidia card, and they all work. (And both PowerMacs have Nvidia cards at the moment.)

10.6 is better for software, to large extent simply because most of the work was done for it, but also due to SDK features which do not exist in 10.5. A lot more things will works.
At the same time be aware that is a development build (and will remain such). But if you are familiar with Linux, that should be manageable.

I still can’t force myself to write step-wise instructions on a website, so info is somewhat scattered, but I think installing from scratch is pretty smooth at this point. (Back up any important data though, of course.)

Once you have the OS running, ping me. In the meantime, there is some info and links to installers here: https://github.com/barracuda156/powerpc-ports/issues/3

 

[Alubook133]

I don’t know what you refer to, but AFAIK Nvidia cards works perfectly fine, and are better supported than ATI.

ah, I might be mixing it up with Linux, proprietary vs reverse-engineered open source drivers etc... anyway not a problem on my machine as long as I don't expect h/w acceleration from all various distros.

Just saw that the Snow Leopard dev has indeed greatly evolved since last time I checked (several months ago), at that time my initial excitement had quickly gone down the tube, first by reading that 10.6 really wasn't much of an "update" from 10.5, mostly a security/stability update with no significant new feature (is that true, or is there more to it ?), second by reading thru a large table that was present in the initial thread, clearly saying that PPC32 w/ NVidia GPU is (was ?) a no-go.

Can't find that table anymore, too bad since it was quite complete with all the current PPC 10.6.8 dev versions, most Mac models/CPUs/GPU's vs bugs/... so one could quickly understand if it was coherent with one's machine. Any idea if the table still exist, and/or if my laptop config (cf signature) is now supported ?

 

[Doq]

Can't find that table anymore, too bad since it was quite complete with all the current PPC 10.6.8 dev versions, most Mac models/CPUs/GPU's vs bugs/... so one could quickly understand if it was coherent with one's machine. Any idea if the table still exist, and/or if my laptop config (cf signature) is now supported ?

Fourth table in the 10.6 development thread (under "Known Issues").

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@barracuda156 this might not ping you due to it being edited in, but kate on the katana-workspace port appears to not launch for me due to a broken dbus (throws a session bus not found error).

 

[barracuda156]

@barracuda156 this might not ping you due to it being edited in, but kate on the katana-workspace port appears to not launch for me due to a broken dbus (throws a session bus not found error).

Did you launch dbus session though? All KDE needs that. You can get the command from `port notes lollypop`, for example, if I forgot it in Katana. Run the command from normal user, without sudo.
Make sure you have either xquartz port or xorg-server-legacy installed and running (reboot after installation). Katana uses X11.

 

[Doq]

Did you launch dbus session though? All KDE needs that. You can get the command from `port notes lollypop`, for example, if I forgot it in Katana. Run the command from normal user, without sudo.
Make sure you have either xquartz port or xorg-server-legacy installed and running (reboot after installation). Katana uses X11.

Ended up with a "Couldn't stat" error with no such file or directory. Will open an issue on repo (so that this thread doesn't get hijacked any more than it already is)