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I often wonder when people make comments like this when the last time, if ever, they used an Android phone. It does many things better and more fluently than iOS does.

The AI alone for image editing on an S25 Ultra is not even comparable. It makes Apple’s cleanup feature look like an early beta project that was never completed.
I use android for work. It’s fine, kind of a cluster f”ck to be honest.
 
And it sends your data to Google so they can target ads to you. Complete non-starter for me.
That may be the case, but it still stands that in many ways Android has surpassed iOS in terms of features. Not everywhere for sure and iOS is cleaner; but Android has come a long long way from its early days of being a complete mess.
 
I use mine with the Apple frost case. I can still enjoy the beauty and lightness of the phone without worrying about scratches on the titanium edge or camera bump. I know, it's just a phone, a tool, but I like to keep my devices as pristine as possible - for Me, not for resale.
 

Makes no sense.

Life is too short to deal with getting a screen or back replaced when a simple thin case would have prevented it.
Curious. Is getting a screen or back replaced that difficult if you have Apple Care, does anybody have real world experience? Never had Apple Care and hence why I’m asking.
 
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Curious. Is getting a screen or back replaced that difficult if you have Apple Care, does anybody have real world experience? Never had Apple hence why I’m asking

If you have AppleCare, you’re still headed to the Apple Store — and could be at least a two-to-three-hour ordeal once you factor in travel and wait time. Even with an express replacement, you’ll still be waiting for delivery, setting up a full transfer, and mailing back the broken one. Either way, you’re spending hours fixing something that a cheap case could’ve prevented.

Owning a case is like wearing a seatbelt. Having AppleCare is like having insurance. Both are important.
 
I have a 13 mini that, like my previous phones, I use without a case.

I must have dropped it hundreds of times – usually innocuous falls from my pocket while getting it out (or missing my pocket while putting it back – ouch!), sliding off a table, that sort of thing. But also a couple of zingers outside onto concrete, once from a bicycle.

It doesn’t look like new, I’ll grant you that. Corners are scuffed and one is dented (slightly). But the glass on both sides has never broken. Actually, nothing has ever broken.
 
If you have AppleCare, you’re still headed to the Apple Store — and could be at least a two-to-three-hour ordeal once you factor in travel and wait time. Even with an express replacement, you’ll still be waiting for delivery, setting up a full transfer, and mailing back the broken one. Either way, you’re spending hours fixing something that a cheap case could’ve prevented.

Owning a case is like wearing a seatbelt. Having AppleCare is like having insurance. Both are important.

Thanks for your perspective and analogy though still don’t want a case for Air as it seems quite durable and I simply prefer the Air without a case.

For all other 17 models though I’d get the Arc Pulse.

Lucky I live near an Apple Store so the hassle should be less though I will check with them about lead times for iPhones with Apple Care repairs so thanks for you post !
 
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Thanks for your perspective and analogy though still don’t want a case for Air as it seems quite durable and I simply prefer the Air without a case.

For all other 17 models though I’d get the Arc Pulse.

Lucky I live near an Apple Store so the hassle should be less though I will check with them about lead times for iPhones with Apple Care repairs so thanks for you post !
The Apple Store keeps stock on hand for AC+ coverage replacements.
 
How many air users use this caseless?
Space black Air here. Completely naked and loving it.

1) it’d be rude to put a case on it as it’s simply to gorgeous to look at and to hold naked with the thinness & premium build.

2) Durability and the Ceramic Shield 2’s scratch resistance is genuinely much better than previous iPhone glass + the anti reflective properties would be ruined.
 
If you have AppleCare, you’re still headed to the Apple Store
nou, you don't. Just order an Express Replacement and Apple sends you a 'new' iPhone within 24 hours to your doorstep.
(Apple puts a hold on your CC untill you send in the broken iPhone and release that hold when they receive your old one)
 
Space black Air here. Completely naked and loving it.

1) it’d be rude to put a case on it as it’s simply to gorgeous to look at and to hold naked with the thinness & premium build.

2) Durability and the Ceramic Shield 2’s scratch resistance is genuinely much better than previous iPhone glass + the anti reflective properties would be ruined.
agreed if i had the air i would be getting it for the feel of the device and just get apple care
 
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Has anybody else noticed increased cellular signal quality with the Air (and presumably all new 17 models)? I can only assume it’s down to the new hardware, modem etc.

I have a local dead spot I pass every day on the train, no UK network provider has ever got me signal here. This morning, complete change with constant coverage, albeit slightly weaker (two bars or so). Coincidence (new mast) or first day using my new phone…?
 
I definitely would use it without a case…but 2 kids under 6 years old make it tricky.

I got a nice case from Amazon that keeps the slim factor.
My child has already knocked it out of my hands a couple times. Despite really wanting to use this phone without a case, I ended up ordering a (magnetic) Peel case and a screen protector. Hopefully that doesn’t make it too much thicker. AppleCare+ has been completely useless to me with my last couple iPhones, so I’m deciding to not buy that this time around.
 
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