The Android experience, so far......

[JaySoul]

Add decent battery life to the equation, too. That's my primary complaint against the Nexus 5. Size isn't a big issue for me (pun not intended) so I went for the iPhone. That said, having played with the Moto G, I'd love to get an iPhone with around the same screen size and similar dimensions.

Forgot to include battery life

The thing is even the iPhone 6 leak seems to suggest a 4.7" screen but in a body bigger than a Galaxy S4! Weird.

I picked up a cheap Moto G a month ago, so impressed! I quite rate the Moto X, interesting to see what they have in mind next.

 

[rui no onna]

I picked up a cheap Moto G a month ago, so impressed!

Yeah, the Moto G is a pretty nice phone. Particularly impressive when you factor in the price tag. My ideal phone would be a mix of the Nexus 5 and the Moto G LTE. I wouldn't even mind paying the $650 going rate for high end smartphones if it means I don't have to compromise.

 

[JaySoul]

Yeah, the Moto G is a pretty nice phone. Particularly impressive when you factor in the price tag. My ideal phone would be a mix of the Nexus 5 and the Moto G LTE. I wouldn't even mind paying the $650 going rate for high end smartphones if it means I don't have to compromise.

WE should launch a MacRumors phone.

 

[kupkakez]

This is a joke, right?

Has to be. I've had a 5c and a 5s and they both require charging daily, and I'm not on it gaming and streaming video all day.

 

[VFC]

....
I agree with the rest tho. If Google play store had a lot of high quality apps like Appstore, I wouldn't even look at what Apple is offering in mobile market anymore.

........ /disappointed

After shopping in both for the past couple years, I feel the biggest difference between the Appstore and Google Play store is that Apple uses higher res icons; so you "feel" like you are shopping in a luxury store.

Now Google has some nice looking icons (e.g., some $.99 HD live background apps); but at the same time they have a bunch of low res icons that make me feel I'm shopping in a bargain store. Of course the prices are bargain store level so that also reinforces the lower quality perception.

 

[gotluck]

I use both app stores
Apple has more hipster and startup apps, along with better games usually
Google has more utilities and apps like pushbullet and tasker that aren't possible on iOS

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Comparing iOS to Android is mostly mute unless you also compare the specific phones themselves.

 

[Tig Bitties]

Android phones of late, have superb battery life. My HTC One M8 can easily go 24 hours, with pretty heavy use, and 6h Screen On time.

My brother has the iPhone 5S, and he doesn't use his nearly as much as me during the workday, he says by end night, the 5S needs to be charged up.

Sorry, but I don't buy these stories of "my phone goes days between charges". Yeah so could my M8 if lightly used.

Screen On time is an extremely important sign, of how much you truly use your phone, and if battery life is good or not.

I'm not knocking Apple, but there is no way in hell I would trade my HTC One M8 GPE for a brand new iPhone 5S, I guess if I wanted a massive downgrade, but no thanks.

Now the rumored 5.5" iPhone 6 could tempt me, especially if iOS8 has special features only found on that extra large screen real estate.

 

[AustinIllini]

The problem with all phones is that they make stupid decisions at one point or another.

All you need to get right for a mass market phone is:

- 4.7-5" screen
- slim bezels
- stay close to stock
- don't add bloatware
- have an excellent camera
- be able to fully back up easily
- be waterproof
- market it well
- don't make it stupidly expensive
- be able to transfer your old phone's info across easily

Now not one single phone (including the iPhone) has ticked all those boxes. There is always a compromise.

The only phones that have come close are the iPhone (size is problem), the Galaxy S5 (bloatware is problem), the Xperia Z2 (too damn big) and the Moto X (average camera).

Nexus 5 (camera)

 

[phoenixsan]

Fully support.....

The problem with all phones is that they make stupid decisions at one point or another.

All you need to get right for a mass market phone is:

- 4.7-5" screen
- slim bezels
- stay close to stock
- don't add bloatware
- have an excellent camera
- be able to fully back up easily
- be waterproof
- market it well
- don't make it stupidly expensive
- be able to transfer your old phone's info across easily

Now not one single phone (including the iPhone) has ticked all those boxes. There is always a compromise.

The only phones that have come close are the iPhone (size is problem), the Galaxy S5 (bloatware is problem), the Xperia Z2 (too damn big) and the Moto X (average camera).

this post and will add: Give the damn phone a decent battery and no uber-expensive spare parts.....

 

[jer04]

Of course the prices are bargain store level so that also reinforces the lower quality perception.

Maybe in the US, but in Australia, the price tags in play store are generally higher than those in App store. A couple of years ago, it was the other way around.

For instance, a game on the top paid app list called 'Monopoly' made by EA, costs AU$1.29 on app store, but AU$1.99 on play store...

 

[Switchback666]

Why do you guys waste your time ?

 

[JackieInCo]

Please post screen times etc if claiming such things. Thanks.

Here's my 5S screen cap. I keep LTE on 24/7 because switching to T-Mobile is what made these battery stats possible. I could not get these with AT&T and Verizon. It's not just the phone as I had the same experience with a 4S.

I also have a Nexus 4 and 7 but neither one lasts a day on a single charge, both are on T-Mobile.

 

[Krimsonmyst]

Here's my 5S screen cap. I keep LTE on 24/7 because switching to T-Mobile is what made these battery stats possible. I could not get these with AT&T and Verizon. It's not just the phone as I had the same experience with a 4S.

I also have a Nexus 4 and 7 but neither one lasts a day on a single charge, both are on T-Mobile.

I don't believe iOS devices show screen on time though.
Usage just means when the phone is not in standby mode.

Receiving push email, having music playing in the background etc would all contribute to the 'Usage' stat', but you can't accurately judge SoT.

That said, I have a Nexus 5 that gets about 3 hours SoT before needing a recharge. It's not great, but I'm always somewhere that I can get to a charger, so it's not too bad for me.

 

[kaielement]

I just lol at comments like this.

I was simply stating my user experience and what I was hoping Apple could add to the new iPhone, not here to argue which is better. I didn't even mention anything about innovation. I don't even know how you got onto that topic. Besides, you are saying this like every iPhone release has been perfect. fan boy much?

BTW, you meant iPhone 5 is two years older than xperia z2, not the other way around. No.3 is purely wrong, the refund is inbuilt in the play store, you just click on 'refund' without having to contact anyone. As for No.4, my carrier has no problem with me tethering on android. For some reasons on my iPhone, it is just not working. I blame Apple for restricting me from using a feature on MY phone.

Why argue about tethering? Verizon offers a low amount of data tethering for free because they got sued over it for android and iPhone. Att and sprint on the other hand charge for this regardless if it's an android or iPhone. So if you couldn't get that to work I would chalk it up to user error. I chose not to do it on my iPhone because I know att will charge me. Heck I don't do it on my Moto X for the same reason.

If any can prove me wrong please do lol.

 

[JackieInCo]

I don't believe iOS devices show screen on time though.
Usage just means when the phone is not in standby mode.

Receiving push email, having music playing in the background etc would all contribute to the 'Usage' stat', but you can't accurately judge SoT.

That said, I have a Nexus 5 that gets about 3 hours SoT before needing a recharge. It's not great, but I'm always somewhere that I can get to a charger, so it's not too bad for me.

I don't use my iPhone for music, that's what I have two iPads for. All the usage on my iPhone is for using apps such as Facebook, calls and texting. Everything I use it for requires the screen to be on.

 

[jer04]

Why argue about tethering? Verizon offers a low amount of data tethering for free because they got sued over it for android and iPhone. Att and sprint on the other hand charge for this regardless if it's an android or iPhone. So if you couldn't get that to work I would chalk it up to user error. I chose not to do it on my iPhone because I know att will charge me. Heck I don't do it on my Moto X for the same reason.

If any can prove me wrong please do lol.

I don't know how they do things in the US. In Australia, as long as you can get it to work, no one cares about it enough to charge you for tethering.

I called my carrier and asked them to enable the tethering on my iPhone. (whenever I tried to enable it, it just says 'contact your carrier') They were like...they could not because it's an iPhone and asked me to contact Apple. Then I called Apple, they asked me to contact my carrier. Meh, what do I care, I'm not using an iPhone now anyway.

 

[Krimsonmyst]

I don't use my iPhone for music, that's what I have two iPads for. All the usage on my iPhone is for using apps such as Facebook, calls and texting. Everything I use it for requires the screen to be on.

I believe Facebook background updating would be considered usage. Not a whole lot, but it would still skew the results.

There has to be more going on in the background on your phone, because I refuse to believe you get 9 hours of screen on time.

 

[Switchback666]

I believe Facebook background updating would be considered usage. Not a whole lot, but it would still skew the results.



There has to be more going on in the background on your phone, because I refuse to believe you get 9 hours of screen on time.

Thats not screen time mate, the iphone will not pull 9hrs of usage.

I have a 5s and on that usage the best ive got is 5 and a little more but i know thats not screen on time.

For all whe know that phone was on airplane mode the whole time and using wifi, sadly not even on ios8 whe gonna get detailed usage.

 

[Krimsonmyst]

Thats not screen time mate, the iphone will not pull 9hrs of usage.

I have a 5s and on that usage the best ive got is 5 and a little more but i know thats not screen on time.

For all whe know that phone was on airplane mode the whole time and using wifi, sadly not even on ios8 whe gonna get detailed usage.

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Yeah that's exactly what I meant. To show a screenshot of 9 hours of usage meant that there was intermittent charging or something else was going on.

Like I said, its hard to compare battery life between the two because battery info breakdown isn't as detailed on iOS.

 

[Savor]

I think being on Android for one year or less, the user should still be considered a newbie. I've been on Android going on three years and I'm still learning new things from it and this is all without root.

 

[Dontazemebro]

I can go 2 days on one cycle with my 5s, but that's normally when I don't use it

On a serious note though, one thing I do appreciate about iOS & battery life in comparison to Android is appreciable standby time. It's a good (& bad) thing that iOS does less under the hood because it literally brings your battery to a halt when not in use. Android on the other hand is doing so much that your battery could lose anywhere from 3-7% just within an hour.

 

[Tig Bitties]

I can go 2 days on one cycle with my 5s, but that's normally when I don't use it

On a serious note though, one thing I do appreciate about iOS & battery life in comparison to Android is appreciable standby time. It's a good (& bad) thing that iOS does less under the hood because it literally brings your battery to a halt when not in use. Android on the other hand is doing so much that your battery could lose anywhere from 3-7% just within an hour.

On a good ROM and settings, you should only lose 1% over night. That's always a good test, leave the phone unplugged before bed, wake up 7hrs later, check battery %, and it should only drop a % or two. Mine does.

 

[Dontazemebro]

On a good ROM and settings, you should only lose 1% over night. That's always a good test, leave the phone unplugged before bed, wake up 7hrs later, check battery %, and it should only drop a % or two. Mine does.

Yes, that sounds ideal but too bad it isn't standard across the board. On the iPhone I can go overnight without losing anything.

 

[jamezr]

I can go 2 days on one cycle with my 5s, but that's normally when I don't use it

On a serious note though, one thing I do appreciate about iOS & battery life in comparison to Android is appreciable standby time. It's a good (& bad) thing that iOS does less under the hood because it literally brings your battery to a halt when not in use. Android on the other hand is doing so much that your battery could lose anywhere from 3-7% just within an hour.

On my M8 i can go 2 days between charges if I wanted to....but usually i plug it in overnight out of habit. Most days off of the charger at 5AM then through normal (for me) i have about 60% battery left when I plug it in around 10PM.