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I’d argue that the watch is primarily a lifestyle device - which is often marketed as a fitness device.

However, it’s still simply not accurate enough to live up to the fitness marketing.

For example the activity app doesn’t factor in strain. I might be walking back with heavy shopping for 20 minutes - a mini rucking session so to speak - but if I’m not walking at a brisk pace I get no activity credit for this. I guess I could try and find a workout that matches this, but it’s meant to be a smartwatch. And hey, a rucking mode would be good right?

…However it will trigger an elliptical workout for me when I pet my dog with my watch wearing arm and give me activity ring credits which is nice.

Stand yes, is kinda silly the way you can get credit for doing so little. But this is one where I’ll respectfully disagree with the OP.

As others have said here, it’s really aimed at people with a sedentary lifestyle.

I’ve always thought this ring is aimed at the type of person who lives in the suburbs and has to drive everywhere - this is lifestyle that our built environment encourages for so many, I’m not judging anyone.

To conclude, the watch almost needs a ‘beginner mode, just to get you standing and then about more & then a ‘I exercise frequently’ mode.

A more sophisticated way of doing this would be a UX and metrics that automatically morph into more sophisticated ones as your fitness improves.

The rumoured heath+/fitness+ coaching product hopefully should help here - and hopefully solve the OP’s issues with the watch too.
 
I disagree the Apple Watch Activity Rings can be a great motivator for staying active and healthy.
Exactly, the rings are motivational and hopefully encourage some to be more active.
Certainly gives me a good prompt every now and then.
I’d argue that the watch is primarily a lifestyle device - which is often marketed as a fitness device.

However, it’s still simply not accurate enough to live up to the fitness marketing.
Personally I’ve found my AW subsequently AWU to be very good.
The tracking and fitness data for my runs is very good, and definitely as good if not better than the Garmin replaced.
In addition tracking of walks and workouts is good, and health data such as heart rate tracks with other sources very well.

What could be said is the AW is not a pure fitness device, it does a whole lot more.
But that does not make it a bad fitness device.
 
Apple Watch is a horrible fitness tracker:
- The rings make no sense. And are almost impossible not to over archieve.
- Watch tracks walking heart rate both when just casually strolling and when doing a walking workout as the same metric.
- VO2 max is calculated in a strange way where it keeps fluctuating depending on if I do a zone 2 run for faster run.
- there is zero intelligence similar to what whoop and others offer where various health matrix’s are evaluated into a fitness score or similar.

Can’t believe watchOS26 fixes none of this.
 
Apple Watch is a horrible fitness tracker:
- The rings make no sense. And are almost impossible not to over archieve.
- Watch tracks walking heart rate both when just casually strolling and when doing a walking workout as the same metric.
- VO2 max is calculated in a strange way where it keeps fluctuating depending on if I do a zone 2 run for faster run.
- there is zero intelligence similar to what whoop and others offer where various health matrix’s are evaluated into a fitness score or similar.

Can’t believe watchOS26 fixes none of this.
ok, then please give an example of what a good fitness tracker that exists now that's better
 
Did I mention that I actually went to medical school? And served in the military as a combat medic? I do have some idea of what I’m talking about when it comes to physical fitness. Is it such a bad thing to try and bring this topic to light in the hopes that I might benefit others?

So what if you went to medical school and were in the military? That doesn't change the fact that the rings are just there to motivate people. They aren't perfect for every single person out there and just because they aren't doesn't mean they are useless.
 
So what if you went to medical school and were in the military? That doesn't change the fact that the rings are just there to motivate people. They aren't perfect for every single person out there and just because they aren't doesn't mean they are useless.

I've personally learned that anyone who leverages things like that to win a conversation or make a point instead of presenting valid information and evidence is not worth wasting much time engaging in a debate and discussion with.
 
I’ll also add I don’t get “flights climbed” sometimes I’ll get 50 flights climbed when I haven’t taken any stairs whatsoever
 
I've personally learned that anyone who leverages things like that to win a conversation or make a point instead of presenting valid information and evidence is not worth wasting much time engaging in a debate and discussion with.
Couldn’t have said any better. When you have a weak sauce, throw around names or hype up the cred.
 
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