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Nütztjanix

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I also like older cars, I like the direct connection you can have with them when they are setup correctly.

But I couldn't agree with comments like 'It does handle it better than most modern cars with all their electronics I met'. I do think it is wise to maintain some objectivity and perspective. A car being modern isn't the issue, and where you can switch them off power reducing electronics aren't the issue either (yes Toyota Prius I'm specifically pointing at you here). Driving through snow is a combination between the driver and having the right tyres. Tyres didn't used to be so wide as they are as standard nowadays; narrower tyres are much better in both snow and rain. And on the flip side of that, try take an E30 M3 EVO through the snow and now take a 2021 M2 Competition and you can see how much better modern cars with their electronics are :)
I'm not generalizing as you seem to assume I am. I was speaking explicitly of my 30 year old car. I also have a 2004 BMW 330d (granted, not really "new" but a lot newer than said 30 year old) as daily driver, which for example is barely usable with snow on the streets. And that's with decent winter tyres. If I let the DSC do it's thing, it stalls the car (it's a manual, so the car has no influence on the clutch), because it reduces power output until the engine just dies. Disabling DSC doesn't help much either, because it's way too much torque even being extremely careful with the throttle.
And, as I said, I was out on Sunday, saw enough other way newer cars struggling or not moving at all, while I had no problem whatsoever. The only limiting factor was ground clearance for me. I doubt that none of the other had winter tyres. But maybe none of their drivers had any skills whatsoever.

Also, in my job I do drive various cars from very old (we're talking 1950's here) to brand-new (a few months) from all manufacturers you can imagine on a daily basis. There's enough occasions where modern electronics don't help at all, and for some cars you can't even disable them (or have to dig deep into some menus to do so).
 

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Every year there is less and less snow here.
If it were to snow, hasnt yet, just stay home.

it is just getting extreemly infrequent.

do any of the electronic packages attempt to lock or partially loc the drive axle from doing the differencial thing?
this might make a difference.
 

Nütztjanix

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Every year there is less and less snow here.
If it were to snow, hasnt yet, just stay home.

it is just getting extreemly infrequent.

do any of the electronic packages attempt to lock or partially loc the drive axle from doing the differencial thing?
this might make a difference.
They try to mimic a limited slip differential by selectively braking the spinning wheel. That doesn't work for long though, as the brakes overheat fairly quick. Also, it's not exactly comparable to a true limited slip differential.
 

cyb3rdud3

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I'm not generalizing as you seem to assume I am. I was speaking explicitly of my 30 year old car. I also have a 2004 BMW 330d (granted, not really "new" but a lot newer than said 30 year old) as daily driver, which for example is barely usable with snow on the streets. And that's with decent winter tyres. If I let the DSC do it's thing, it stalls the car (it's a manual, so the car has no influence on the clutch), because it reduces power output until the engine just dies. Disabling DSC doesn't help much either, because it's way too much torque even being extremely careful with the throttle.
And, as I said, I was out on Sunday, saw enough other way newer cars struggling or not moving at all, while I had no problem whatsoever. The only limiting factor was ground clearance for me. I doubt that none of the other had winter tyres. But maybe none of their drivers had any skills whatsoever.

Also, in my job I do drive various cars from very old (we're talking 1950's here) to brand-new (a few months) from all manufacturers you can imagine on a daily basis. There's enough occasions where modern electronics don't help at all, and for some cars you can't even disable them (or have to dig deep into some menus to do so).
LOL your comparison to a new car is a 17 year old BMW which is likely an E46 based on a 1997 released design. That is a generation ago. 🤣 Things have moved on a little. Damn I managed to drive my wives’ 2020 BMW M2 Competition through the snow across our hills to the detailer. On Summer tyres Michelin PS4. Granted I’d rather had some winter tyres in their and a lot narrower. But just pop the M1 setting in Efficiency and Comfort and it is awesome how the traction is.

Heck even my Range Rover is fully electronic in how it handles different terrain modes. Surely you can’t argue against that as well? Or somehow I wouldn’t surprised if you still would ;)
 

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LOL your comparison to a new car is a 17 year old BMW which is likely an E46 based on a 1997 released design. That is a generation ago. 🤣 Things have moved on a little. Damn I managed to drive my wives’ 2020 BMW M2 Competition through the snow across our hills to the detailer. On Summer tyres Michelin PS4. Granted I’d rather had some winter tyres in their and a lot narrower. But just pop the M1 setting in Efficiency and Comfort and it is awesome how the traction is.

Heck even my Range Rover is fully electronic in how it handles different terrain modes. Surely you can’t argue against that as well? Or somehow I wouldn’t surprised if you still would ;)
I'll stop here, because I won't be arguing with someone who only reads selectively what fits his view. Have a nice evening.
 
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Always parking with 1st gear in and handbrake engaged.
I very rarely use the handbrake for hill starts. Mostly because there aren’t a lot of hills around
Haha!
I rarely apply the handbrake when stopped on gradients as it’s a knack you pick up with 22 years of driving experience. I do use the handbrake on hills from a cold start though as it’s easy to over rev and stall. I live in Wales and they live a hill or a mountain here :p
 

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I think it's all in how you learn-I stall when I try to start on a hill with the hand brake.

It's hard to describe and easier to show/demonstrate but basically I start letting off the clutch and get to where it just bites right around the time I'm taking my foot off the brake. I can then start revving as I let out the clutch the rest of the way.

I can start smoothly and without rolling back doing all of that. We don't have a lot of crazy hills where I am now in Illinois(although it's not flat as a board like it is toward the center of the state) but we had some pretty good ones in Kentucky.
I find you’re less likely to stall when you use the handbrake. When you learn to drive here the instructors never let you do hill starts without it and it would be a minor fault in a test if you didn’t use it too. As your foot eases off the clutch and the accelerator is applied, the bite point is more apparent with the handbrake as the back of the car lowers down ever so slightly. I find that’s when you know when to release the handbrake. That’s how we learn over here anyway lol :)
 

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Since there's a lot of talk in here of super-high-powered cars in this thread, I thought I'd share this article from Hagerty this morning that sums up my feelings on "Driving a slow car fast."m

 

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Since there's a lot of talk in here of super-high-powered cars in this thread, I thought I'd share this article from Hagerty this morning that sums up my feelings on "Driving a slow car fast."m

That's a good read!
 

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Please, don't quit posting in here. I absolutely enjoy reading your stories. I have a soft spot for old cars, and I do think that most of them are more reliable in the long run than anything made today.

Oh, I'm sure he will, regardless of "other posters", he's been a terrific contributor for quite a few years now. Heck, I see some of the posters from the first couple of pages (way back when I started this thread, almost 7 years ago), are still occasionally active (@quagmire :D)


Since there's a lot of talk in here of super-high-powered cars in this thread, I thought I'd share this article from Hagerty this morning that sums up my feelings on "Driving a slow car fast."

I've used the same discussion points around my [former] S2K. It wasn't particularly "fast", reasonably perky in the segment, but because it was quick (and high) revving (they came with 4.10 gears) with really tight, responsive steering, a short, quick shifter (one of the best OEM shifters ever), and the whole car was small, low - the experience was intense, the car was kinetic, like a go-kart - and, you could drive it super hard around town and probably not get arrested (especially around here where it's mostly 40-45MPH). Vs. something like my Z06 which you needed a track, or the willingness to go to jail to really wring it out!
 

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Oh, I'm sure he will, regardless of "other posters", he's been a terrific contributor for quite a few years now. Heck, I see some of the posters from the first couple of pages (way back when I started this thread, almost 7 years ago), are still occasionally active (@quagmire :D)




I've used the same discussion points around my [former] S2K. It wasn't particularly "fast", reasonably perky in the segment, but because it was quick (and high) revving (they came with 4.10 gears) with really tight, responsive steering, a short, quick shifter (one of the best OEM shifters ever), and the whole car was small, low - the experience was intense, the car was kinetic, like a go-kart - and, you could drive it super hard around town and probably not get arrested (especially around here where it's mostly 40-45MPH). Vs. something like my Z06 which you needed a track, or the willingness to go to jail to really wring it out!



I like cars a lot-I like learning about how they work, and when I can I like discussing that with other people or explaining what I know and understand. I'm not going to be vague about my background or what I do-I'm a Chemistry professor with a background in analytical chemistry, and always with a healthy obsession with anything and everything mechanical that motivated me to minor in physics to help make some sense of some of this stuff. Those are hardly outstanding credentials, but I'd like to think I have an inquisitive and curious mind, and when it comes to this sort of stuff I have a desire to learn and also discuss. I certainly am often wrong, however one of the things I've found is that "conventional wisdom" passed down by mechanics and car enthusiasts is often times at best misguided and at worst is wrong. That can come up in topics like discussing something as simple as braking, where there are a TON of misconceptions about what actually does and doesn't improve braking efficiency or what benefits ABS offers. There are so many other things like that, and I've taken an effort to learn as much as I can, read what others write, and reach my own conclusions.

In addition, I like writing about my experience with one PARTICULAR car, and I approach it from a standpoint of humor as IMO anyone who intends to spend time with an old car(especially a British one) needs to apply a healthy dose of that to avoid endless frustration. BTW, since I actually enjoy wrenching on my own cars, I can write things up from that perspective.

To your second point-that IS why I love the MG. I'm obviously a bit biased, but I'm someone who considers the British roadsters of that age, and the MGB in particular, to be in sort of a "sweet spot" of older sports cars. Unlike something like an MG TD or even an MGA to an extent, an MGB can more than keep up with current traffic and is right at home doing 80mph on the interstate. Still, though, when you take it down a twisty road, you can't help but smile. BTW, one of the big things I'd hoped to accomplish on the rebuild, and as best as I can tell I was successful, was to bump the mid-range torque some. With the current cam, I need to spool it up a bit more, but it's just right for the-say-pull out of a curve in 3rd gear and accelerate back up to 55 driving.
 
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I like cars a lot-I like learning about how they work, and when I can I like discussing that with other people or explaining what I know and understand. I'm not going to be vague about my background or what I do-I'm a Chemistry professor with a background in analytical chemistry, and always with a healthy obsession with anything and everything mechanical that motivated me to minor in physics to help make some sense of some of this stuff. Those are hardly outstanding credentials, but I'd like to think I have an inquisitive and curious mind, and when it comes to this sort of stuff I have a desire to learn and also discuss. I certainly am often wrong, however one of the things I've found is that "conventional wisdom" passed down by mechanics and car enthusiasts is often times at best misguided and at worst is wrong. That can come up in topics like discussing something as simple as braking, where there are a TON of misconceptions about what actually does and doesn't improve braking efficiency or what benefits ABS offers. There are so many other things like that, and I've taken an effort to learn as much as I can, read what others write, and reach my own conclusions.

In addition, I like writing about my experience with one PARTICULAR car, and I approach it from a standpoint of humor as IMO anyone who intends to spend time with an old car(especially a British one) needs to apply a healthy dose of that to avoid endless frustration. BTW, since I actually enjoy wrenching on my own cars, I can write things up from that perspective.

To your second point-that IS why I love the MG. I'm obviously a bit biased, but I'm someone who considers the British roadsters of that age, and the MGB in particular, to be in sort of a "sweet spot" of older sports cars. Unlike something like an MG TD or even an MGA to an extent, an MGB can more than keep up with current traffic and is right at home doing 80mph on the interstate. Still, though, when you take it down a twisty road, you can't help but smile. BTW, one of the big things I'd hoped to accomplish on the rebuild, and as best as I can tell I was successful, was to bump the mid-range torque some. With the current cam, I need to spool it up a bit more, but it's just right for the-say-pull out of a curve in 3rd gear and accelerate back up to 55 driving.


While this thread is dominated by talk of the new cars on the block, it is nice to read about someone working to keep the classics on the road. It is something I would love be able to do myself( I am not mechanically inclined so that doing it myself would have to be finding a good mechanic that can help out haha :) ).

Please keep posting updates here.
 
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Every year there is less and less snow here.
If it were to snow, hasnt yet, just stay home.

it is just getting extreemly infrequent.

do any of the electronic packages attempt to lock or partially loc the drive axle from doing the differencial thing?
this might make a difference.

Dude you should have our Lake Affect Snow, by this time of year we are sick of it! Every morning cleaning off snow off my car is getting old real fast!
 

A.Goldberg

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That’s an interesting point. What will electric car owners do when there isn’t a garage or drive at home?

That's always been my criticism of the whole EV in cities ideas. A lot of parking in the city is rented, so how do.you easily add electric charging? A lot of parking isn't even next to buildings- either lots or there is a sidewalk infant of the building. Not practical at all for adding charging. Especially if you don't own the property. I own a 2 garaged parking spaces here and I have no idea how I would get 240v charging in place... it would be very expensive and an HOA fiasco.

People would say "just go to a supercharger" but in the long run that's really not healthy for the life of the battery. Supercharging is supposed to be a way to top off on long trips, not the standard method of charging. And although the SuperCharger network is big, it's not big enough or convenient enough accommodate many people regularly needing to charge their cars. I'm not driving 20+ minutes in traffic to downtown Boston charge my car for an hour+.
 

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That's always been my criticism of the whole EV in cities ideas. A lot of parking in the city is rented, so how do.you easily add electric charging? A lot of parking isn't even next to buildings- either lots or there is a sidewalk infant of the building. Not practical at all for adding charging. Especially if you don't own the property. I own a 2 garaged parking spaces here and I have no idea how I would get 240v charging in place... it would be very expensive and an HOA fiasco.

People would say "just go to a supercharger" but in the long run that's really not healthy for the life of the battery. Supercharging is supposed to be a way to top off on long trips, not the standard method of charging. And although the SuperCharger network is big, it's not big enough or convenient enough accommodate many people regularly needing to charge their cars. I'm not driving 20+ minutes in traffic to downtown Boston charge my car for an hour+.

You answered your own question! Chargers are installed in my home city of Rochester NY and in other cities parking lots to attack cars to park, so they put “free chargers” you must have to pay the parking fee! I know my city actually made money especially during local triple AAA baseball games and Triple A basketball also The Iternstion Hockey and division 1 College Hockey matches!

It was genius move to attack EV with “free charging”!
 

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You answered your own question! Chargers are installed in my home city of Rochester NY and in other cities parking lots to attack cars to park, so they put “free chargers” you must have to pay the parking fee! I know my city actually made money especially during local triple AAA baseball games and Triple A basketball also The Iternstion Hockey and division 1 College Hockey matches!

It was genius move to attack EV with “free charging”!

The problem with a lot of public charging however is that it does not have the optimal power output to charge more advanced BEVs in a remotely efficient manner. And if you expect a uptick in urban-owned EV’s, you’re going to need a lot more public charging- paid or unpaid. When you’re talking about a city like Boston or NY where every inch of space is a premium and public parking is a challenge as if is, this is going to be a much bigger problem. A place like Rochester is a quite a bit different.

Complicating things further older cities like Boston, NYC, Chicago, Philadelphia have far less new construction going on to optimize buildings for EV charging. And the cost to retrofit isn’t something many landlords will do voluntarily unless they’re making updates.

I think the solution is a mix of public charging on the streets, in retail parking lots, etc but probably more importantly charging at people’s workplaces. But again, this is an issue with the company or landlord of the office building, parking garage, etc who may not have much motivation to install chargers. Then again, a lot of people who live in the city work in the city and don’t use their car for daily commuting, such as my fiancée.

Workplace charging however might also solve some of the inevitable power demand issues. Most experts would tell you the rate of EV adoption is going to be faster than the technological development of adequate “green” energy generation and practical storage solutions. The current infrastructure will be insufficient to power a large percentage of the country driving EV’s, at least without using fossil fuels or nuclear. Having a solar panel on ones house only go so far in terms of overall grid stability... but certainly isn’t going to be able to help charge ones car at night at home.

(Or we could just invest in developing more secure and sustainable nuclear technology and solve a big part of this clean generation/storage problem)

I would expect EV adoption to rapidly increase by the end of the decade, but there’s still a lot of other problems to be resolved- the battery component supply chain being perhaps another major overlooked issue. For example, something like 70% of Colbalt comes from Congo- colbolt mining is dirty as it is, Congo has zero environmental concerns, uses child labor, etc and most mines in Congo are owned by China. 60% of the also dirty refining process happens in China. So basically China has a stranglehold on the market while Congo is an incredibly corrupt and unstable country

The Obama administration locked down mining of such elements in the US as again, it’s a dirty process, politically and environmentally more appealing to have it mined elsewhere. Hopefully the Biden Administration will address this.

Hydrogen is an interesting option Japan and South Korea seem pretty interested in. It certainly has its share of production (doing so efficiently/practically) and distribution issues. It’s clearly not what the US is betting on but it could be a potential avenue with the right development. It essentially requires a lot of electricity for production and storage (compression and cooling).

I’m not sure if we’ll ever really see H-fuel cell personal vehicles in widespread use, but it does pose an interesting case for commercial vehicles, busses, ships, etc. I’m not sure we’re realistically anywhere close to having BEV’s be realistic for anything but local delivery of light goods. The weight of batteries required for a Semi truck is a bit problematic when it comes to such vehicle’s legal/safety weight limitations.

As with most things in life, the reality of implementing major changes to anything is always far more complicated than politics and activists make it out to be.
 
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So after the partnership with BMW and Toyota for the Supra, now comes a fairly heated rumor that the {Subaru and Toyota} are in the works of developing an all-wheel-drive ‘hot hatch’ together. Likely to debut Fall 2022.

So what does that all entail:

Reports are stating that it will be an ‘Impreza sized hatch’ with a transverse engine likely to receive a ‘2.4 L boxer four’. The question is, who takes the badging? Subaru or Toyota? Rumor is that Subaru would ultimately claim the badge, because they want to have a rally version of this vehicle for competition.


From My understanding and readings, others are mentioning that Toyota is hurting where the Supra wasn’t as much as a successful lift-off as they hoped, and by continuing with the partnerships, gives them that scope of using their engineers for external projects with other manufacturers.

Either way, when you consider both manufacturers, I think they’re both rated at the very top for the reliability/durability with there drive trains, so this is something I would definitely keep a close watch and see what they’re able to collaborate what this project is all about, as it seems to be more likely that this is an accurate rumor.

 

cyb3rdud3

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Well I've definitely joined the ranks of Range Rover ownership. Had mine in for service and asked them to look into a slow coolant leak problem. It is too bloody cold to look into it myself, and my garage is too full of junk to get it in there :)

Anyway, service report...
1. Crack in CV gaitor
2. Disc back guard corroded and flapping.
3. Number plate bulbs not working
4. One LED gone from third brake light.
5. Rear pads destroyed by heat, as risk of totally to be broken up
6. Slight judder at front braking.
7. Vacuum hoses brittle and split.
8. Super charger has play in that spring loaded thingy coupler

The coolant seems to be getting dumped inside the V but they can't see where it is getting from without taking it apart, so I authorised them to do that. I suspected a sticky calliper at the back, I've come hope with way to hot discs/brakes at times that are literally smoking. Shame it is so cold as otherwise I'd do it myself, but hey, I'll let them change it all.

Pretty sure the coolant leak will turn our another brittle or split how, so are ready for replacing most if not all of them. And with get the super charger coupler changed then as well if they have to take it off anyway.

On a happier note, I'm in conversations to go one step further on my upgrade. Looks like once the above is fixed I go for a lower and upper pulley change on the supercharger and an associated remap to deal with it.

But for now, I'm most mostly driving my wife's BMW M2 Competition but when too cold and snowy/icy actually prefer my daughters VW Golf MK2 GTI 🤣
 

cyb3rdud3

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Audi Etron GT premiered; can't beat the Audi interiors.
Yeah Audi alerted me to that one, I must admit that segment is heating up nicely. Also good to see charging is getting sorted with support for rapid charging.

Since there's a lot of talk in here of super-high-powered cars in this thread, I thought I'd share this article from Hagerty this morning that sums up my feelings on "Driving a slow car fast."m

Oh definitely, been banging that drum for a long time. My daughters Golf MK2 GTI only has on paper 112Hp (about 1/5 of mine 🤣), but smiles on my face every time and plenty to keep up and outrun todays traffic.
 
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Well I've definitely joined the ranks of Range Rover ownership. Had mine in for service and asked them to look into a slow coolant leak problem. It is too bloody cold to look into it myself, and my garage is too full of junk to get it in there :)

Anyway, service report...
1. Crack in CV gaitor
2. Disc back guard corroded and flapping.
3. Number plate bulbs not working
4. One LED gone from third brake light.
5. Rear pads destroyed by heat, as risk of totally to be broken up
6. Slight judder at front braking.
7. Vacuum hoses brittle and split.
8. Super charger has play in that spring loaded thingy coupler

The coolant seems to be getting dumped inside the V but they can't see where it is getting from without taking it apart, so I authorised them to do that. I suspected a sticky calliper at the back, I've come hope with way to hot discs/brakes at times that are literally smoking. Shame it is so cold as otherwise I'd do it myself, but hey, I'll let them change it all.

Pretty sure the coolant leak will turn our another brittle or split how, so are ready for replacing most if not all of them. And with get the super charger coupler changed then as well if they have to take it off anyway.

On a happier note, I'm in conversations to go one step further on my upgrade. Looks like once the above is fixed I go for a lower and upper pulley change on the supercharger and an associated remap to deal with it.

But for now, I'm most mostly driving my wife's BMW M2 Competition but when too cold and snowy/icy actually prefer my daughters VW Golf MK2 GTI 🤣
Sounds expensive. Hope the bill isn’t as big as you fear. But if you enjoy the MK2 GTI the most why not pick one up for yourself?
 

cyb3rdud3

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Sounds expensive. Hope the bill isn’t as big as you fear. But if you enjoy the MK2 GTI the most why not pick one up for yourself?
The costs will be ok. Although the coolant one is a bit of a pain as it’s not known yet what it is exactly. With some degree of confidence it’s not catastrophic in the engine, but trying to find where it is with very limited visual clues not even after adding die to it is labour intensive. And as a silver lining when it is super charger off I can combine labour costs with replacing the coupler on the supercharger. It’s a service item, it will happen to all of them at one point and I’m glad the garage put it as a cautionary item now and before I upgrade the pulleys 👍

All other items are really service items as well. I’d happily do them myself at home normally but with this beast an actual life makes life a lot easier.

I wouldn’t get a MK2 Golf for myself. Firstly due to COVID my daughter hasn’t got her license yet 😈 But more seriously, before COVID we were working towards going back to the Netherlands. I bought the Range Rover as a cheap intermediate car to help with clearing our house, take stuff to the tip etc but still have some comfort and luxury to drive from the UK to the Netherlands (through France and Belgium). Whilst our plans have been thwarted life must go on, and I must try and stop buying toys 🤣 I’m supposed to get rid of them, and we wanted a change in lifestyle and get an inner city house or penthouse.

But I’m eying up these two, look interesting to me.

But I either need to seek (mental) help 🤣 or find a nice barn/garage 👍
 

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The costs will be ok. Although the coolant one is a bit of a pain as it’s not known yet what it is exactly. With some degree of confidence it’s not catastrophic in the engine, but trying to find where it is with very limited visual clues not even after adding die to it is labour intensive. And as a silver lining when it is super charger off I can combine labour costs with replacing the coupler on the supercharger. It’s a service item, it will happen to all of them at one point and I’m glad the garage put it as a cautionary item now and before I upgrade the pulleys 👍

All other items are really service items as well. I’d happily do them myself at home normally but with this beast an actual life makes life a lot easier.

I wouldn’t get a MK2 Golf for myself. Firstly due to COVID my daughter hasn’t got her license yet 😈 But more seriously, before COVID we were working towards going back to the Netherlands. I bought the Range Rover as a cheap intermediate car to help with clearing our house, take stuff to the tip etc but still have some comfort and luxury to drive from the UK to the Netherlands (through France and Belgium). Whilst our plans have been thwarted life must go on, and I must try and stop buying toys 🤣 I’m supposed to get rid of them, and we wanted a change in lifestyle and get an inner city house or penthouse.

But I’m eying up these two, look interesting to me.

But I either need to seek (mental) help 🤣 or find a nice barn/garage 👍
Well if you are serious about the MGB, then you better ask @bunnspecial for their advice. I think he'd be the second person I'd ask for advice if buying a classic car. The first person's advice I'd ask for would be a divorce lawyer! 🤣
 
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