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The Dead Gaming on MacBook Thread.
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eXan said:I think the OP has already cleaned his MB from Win, so he cannot perform those tests for you...
Sorry, Windows is gone
I was having a number of blue screen and general crashes since windows did an auto update on me and screwed up some system files/drivers : so I finished the halflife2 benchmark test and gave up and ditched windows.....
I'm sure someone else will post more results (I hope). I could try it on my imac as that still has windows on a small partition, but that wouldnt be very useful to you.
Very intresting topic. I have a macbook (1,83 ghz, 80 gb, 1 gb) and installed XP with bootcamp, beveause sometimes i want to play CS: Source with friends. I know that an integrated card is not a gaming card, but i expected far more (also because the macbook has dual core, dual channel and ddr2) then wat i experienced.
Just walking trough de_dust alone, my fps is ~7! That's really horrible, my settings are 800x600 and the other settings low. The strange thing is, is that i can only start CS:S when i set the direct X level to 7.0 . When i do 8.1, or 9.0, the CS:S menu after startup is black and i can't see anything. Even at dx 6.0 it's still 7 fps. I tried with this config: http://www.immolate.nl/index.php?site=files&file=1 although everything looked less nice, my fps is still at ~7 . I've installed the latest graphic drivers, and checked the configuration of it. Dx is also up to date.
Another strange thing, in 3d mark2001se the score is ~6k. I had a pc a few months ago, with an AMD athlon xp 2200+ and a Gf4mx440se, with an score of ~3-4k in 3dmark. And with that card, it played cs:s and hl2 smooth at 800x600 medium.
Mayby it has something to do with T&L, wich the intel integrated hasn't. I googled and found the program " 3D Analyzer" that can emulate T&L, you have to select the .exe, choose the settings and press run. But the problem is, CS:S is started by steam.exe -applaunch 240, and selecting hl2.exe doesn't work beceause you can't start the game by just launching hl2.exe (i don't have hl2 installed, only CS:s, but there is a hl2.exe in the steam folder).
I'm dissapointed abot this very bad performance, i really expected better. Mayby someone knows a solution, or how to emulate t&L (if that is the prob) on cs:s?
(iew, after i read my post i knew why i had such a low mark for my English grammar test at school last week :x )
Just walking trough de_dust alone, my fps is ~7! That's really horrible, my settings are 800x600 and the other settings low. The strange thing is, is that i can only start CS:S when i set the direct X level to 7.0 . When i do 8.1, or 9.0, the CS:S menu after startup is black and i can't see anything. Even at dx 6.0 it's still 7 fps. I tried with this config: http://www.immolate.nl/index.php?site=files&file=1 although everything looked less nice, my fps is still at ~7 . I've installed the latest graphic drivers, and checked the configuration of it. Dx is also up to date.
Another strange thing, in 3d mark2001se the score is ~6k. I had a pc a few months ago, with an AMD athlon xp 2200+ and a Gf4mx440se, with an score of ~3-4k in 3dmark. And with that card, it played cs:s and hl2 smooth at 800x600 medium.
Mayby it has something to do with T&L, wich the intel integrated hasn't. I googled and found the program " 3D Analyzer" that can emulate T&L, you have to select the .exe, choose the settings and press run. But the problem is, CS:S is started by steam.exe -applaunch 240, and selecting hl2.exe doesn't work beceause you can't start the game by just launching hl2.exe (i don't have hl2 installed, only CS:s, but there is a hl2.exe in the steam folder).
I'm dissapointed abot this very bad performance, i really expected better. Mayby someone knows a solution, or how to emulate t&L (if that is the prob) on cs:s?
(iew, after i read my post i knew why i had such a low mark for my English grammar test at school last week :x )
Out of interest, why does Counter Strike Source run different to HalfLife 2?
Like i posted I got 25 fps average at High 1024x768 and over 30fps average at Medium 1024x768 on HalfLife 2 on my macbook.
Your experience of CS is totally different to mine of HalfLife 2.
Is it because it's online? Graphically it isnt pushing anything different to HalfLife 2 so there must be an additional thing? The graphics engines are the same so ????
Like i posted I got 25 fps average at High 1024x768 and over 30fps average at Medium 1024x768 on HalfLife 2 on my macbook.
Your experience of CS is totally different to mine of HalfLife 2.
Is it because it's online? Graphically it isnt pushing anything different to HalfLife 2 so there must be an additional thing? The graphics engines are the same so ????
AlexanderOnline said:
I don't know exactly why, but on another forum there was someone with a mac mini with around 20fps in hl2 and 7 in cs:s . i just played de_dust alone, but i don't know why it's heavier. In de_dust in that place in the middle (i don't know how to describe it, it has a round roof and there are 4 ways to it) there i have 15-20 fps, but on all other places 7-9 fps.
Today i spend a few hours googling and trying to get normal fps in CS:S, but no result. I tried everything in the config file, but it didn't boost the fps. If i play with 1280x800 low or 640x40 low, it doesn't matter at all, the fps is still ~7 fps! Really horrible.
I spend a lot of time with the tool 3D Analyzer wich kan emulate T&L and tune other settings. I tried different versions, i tried an older version (wich is often used in the hl2 tweaking guides) on hl2.exe, and i tried both older and new versions on a .bat file (that starts CS:S with hl2.exe -applaunch 240 -game ... etc), but with these options the game won't start (and hl2.exe crashes). I have really no idea anymore what to do. In the video stress test (before i played a game, that's strange enough depending), my results are a lot better.
I hope someone know a solution....
I spend a lot of time with the tool 3D Analyzer wich kan emulate T&L and tune other settings. I tried different versions, i tried an older version (wich is often used in the hl2 tweaking guides) on hl2.exe, and i tried both older and new versions on a .bat file (that starts CS:S with hl2.exe -applaunch 240 -game ... etc), but with these options the game won't start (and hl2.exe crashes). I have really no idea anymore what to do. In the video stress test (before i played a game, that's strange enough depending), my results are a lot better.
I hope someone know a solution....
AlexanderOnline said:Today i spend a few hours googling and trying to get normal fps in CS:S, but no result. I tried everything in the config file, but it didn't boost the fps. If i play with 1280x800 low or 640x40 low, it doesn't matter at all, the fps is still ~7 fps! Really horrible.
I spend a lot of time with the tool 3D Analyzer wich kan emulate T&L and tune other settings. I tried different versions, i tried an older version (wich is often used in the hl2 tweaking guides) on hl2.exe, and i tried both older and new versions on a .bat file (that starts CS:S with hl2.exe -applaunch 240 -game ... etc), but with these options the game won't start (and hl2.exe crashes). I have really no idea anymore what to do. In the video stress test (before i played a game, that's strange enough depending), my results are a lot better.
I hope someone know a solution....
The fact that resolution and graphics options didnt make a difference means there must be another reason for this discrepancy... interesting but annoying and confusng??
Mayby it's just a cpu speed limitation. It seems to be that the card doesn't have T&L hardware support, and also no vertex support (most games uses both), so the cpu has to do all that work. Mayby that explains why the fps speed doesn't change at different resolutions.
I hoped that the 3D analyzer tool would helped but its a pitty that i can't get it worked on CS:S (while it seems to work on HL2 on the internet i see, but i don't have enough space on the bootcamp partition to test hl2)
I hoped that the 3D analyzer tool would helped but its a pitty that i can't get it worked on CS:S (while it seems to work on HL2 on the internet i see, but i don't have enough space on the bootcamp partition to test hl2)
Well, a litle off topic though it may be, I just wanted to pass along two games that I play on my macbook (2 gigs RAM) that run PERFECTLY-- Rise of Nations and Warcraft III.
I am really excited about Warcraft III. I never got a chance to play it when it was new (actually, my mac at the time couldn't handle it) and now it runs like a dream at native 1280x800... Just wanted to pass that along.
Jay
I am really excited about Warcraft III. I never got a chance to play it when it was new (actually, my mac at the time couldn't handle it) and now it runs like a dream at native 1280x800... Just wanted to pass that along.
Jay
QCassidy352 said:
I posted a video of my MacBook running UT2k4, WoW etc in Mac OS X, plus some rosetta stuff, and a coupl of BootCamp items (Need for speed... etc).
You lot are so busy making up new FUD threads that ones with anything meaningful get lost.
Okay, this is really funny. yesterday i went to a friend with my MacBook, to play a few games together. He was playing CS:S with his brother, so i joined the game. They were playing fy_pool... and i played at 1280x800 low. I expected again 7 fps, but in that map i played with 40-100 fps! We played other maps online, fy_simpsons, fy_iceworld etc, and also high fps! But we tried de_dust, and again 7 fps. Mayby it has something to do with that de_dust is a complexer map? HDR effects are off, but i know that they " remaked" de_dust for CS:S. Strange but fun for me
I also played C&C Generals on Windows, i could play it well at 1024x786 low (i think 800x600 high should run well too).
I also played C&C Generals on Windows, i could play it well at 1024x786 low (i think 800x600 high should run well too).
I'm a PC user eargerly waiting to switch over to my first mac.....macbooks sound sooooooo good even tho no dedicated graphics....my PC runs at like a frame every other second
*pity me* lol
*pity me* lol
MacRumorUser said:
MRU, I'm trying to decide between a mac book and a iMac. Right now, the main sticking point is whether or not I would be able to run "The Movies" well for the Machinema features.
I guess you've since erased windows from your machine, but can you recall any details on what settings you were able to run it at, and how smooth the footage looked? I don't need the exact FPS, I just need to know if I can do things like day/night lighting effects and handle the animations smoothly.
Bern said:Sorry to chime in so late here, but I have the Mac version of Sims 2 plus both EP's do you think they will run well on a 1.83 MacBook with 2gig of ram or would I be better off with the PC versions?
Thanks
couldnt say simply because I dont have the mac versions.
I know they are universal now, but open gl and drivers are more robust with the GMA950 in windows than on Mac OSX so ????
All you can do is try. If you have the mac versions use them, you don't want to have to go out and buy the pc versions if the mac runs ok.