Better than Apple hardware in some cases.
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Better than Apple hardware in some cases.
Today's updates? Want to guess which of mine is KP'ing at boot? Hint: it's not either of my Hackintoshes, it's the one that says "MacBook Pro" under the screen.
Would you have a link on these newer methods?
I remember those hackintosh threads where people had many problems.
Is there a new software that makes it a one-click solution? And a reliable one?
I agree 100%. This is the end for this. You would have to be an idiot to spend the premium now. It used to be a bitter pill. Now it's a poison pill.
At least they could have the decency of a proper burial. But they just ended up leaving the corpse to rot on the highway.
Not really one click but close enough. It's MultiBeast. I built an amazing Hackintosh with it but the key is buying the RECOMMENDED hardware and using the RECOMMENDED settings.
CPU: Intel Core i7-2700K 3.5 GHz LGA 1155 Processor BX80623I72700K
MB: Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3
Video Card: AMD Radeon HD 6870 (http://www.amazon.com/XFX-Radeon-HD6.../dp/B005FPT37Q)
SSD: 120GB OCZ Nocti Series SATA 3Gb/s
Case: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0055Q7BR4 (cheap)
RAM: 16GB Corsair 1600Mhz DDR3 (the blue one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...nymacx86com-20 )
PSU: Corsair 750watt (already had)
When you build a Windows PC, you finish building and install Windows. When you build a Hackintosh, you build and then configure for a while.
Then you need to install the secondary HDD (you need to use only one when installing) if you have one and the rest of the RAM (You need to have only 4GB installed when you install the OS).
If anyone wants to follow in my tired footsteps, this link is very helpful:
http://www.tonymacx86.com
Also this kid was a great help!
http://youtu.be/pEW6d7m5Zc0
As was this:
http://youtu.be/6bFMsbj2tro
My BIOS version was F8 and the right strings for the XFX ATI RADEON 6870 were AtiPorts=5 and AtiConfig=Duckweed
I learned one very crucial piece of information that the tonymacx86 forum didn't tell me. If you're using a USB drive instead of the Snow Leopard install DVD, don't plug it into a USB 3.0 port. It will cause kernel panic.
And of course for the actual building I used this method.
http://youtu.be/d_56kyib-Ls
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Thanks for the detailed reply, Buffsteria.
How much did you hackintosh cost, and how would it compare to a Mac Pro?
The graphics card looks really good.
How much did you hackintosh cost, and how would it compare to a Mac Pro?
The graphics card looks really good.
I think I spent $1100. There were some good deals that week! The video card is fully supported, I paid a little bit extra for the 2GB. I just checked yesterday and that i7 processor went down $30 from when I bought it so I'm guessing it would be even cheaper now.
I'm not sure how it would compare to the Mac Pro 12-core but it's definitely better than the quad-core. The SSD is mSata and plugs directly into the motherboard. The result is stunning, you click on ZBrush and it opens in the blink of an eye, same with any Adobe CS5.5 product (I haven't yet upgraded to CS6).
If it weren't for the Maya issue I'd still be using OS X.
I just recalculated using today's prices, everything purchased on Amazon.
What my original post was missing was the 2TB Seagate ST2000DM001 Barracuda 7200RPM HDD.
Total is $1144 without the case. I had the Corsair 400R which is $100.
But if I build another one I have a Corsair 600T I want to use.
So for this much you'd have a Hackintosh with a 3.5Ghz i7, 16GB RAM, 120GB System and Apps SSD, 2TB storage HDD and a 2GB ATI Radeon 6870 in a USB3.0 compatible case.
As opposed to a Mac Pro with One 3.2GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon processor, 6GB RAM, 1TB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s hard drive, ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB for $2499.
What my original post was missing was the 2TB Seagate ST2000DM001 Barracuda 7200RPM HDD.
Total is $1144 without the case. I had the Corsair 400R which is $100.
But if I build another one I have a Corsair 600T I want to use.
So for this much you'd have a Hackintosh with a 3.5Ghz i7, 16GB RAM, 120GB System and Apps SSD, 2TB storage HDD and a 2GB ATI Radeon 6870 in a USB3.0 compatible case.
As opposed to a Mac Pro with One 3.2GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon processor, 6GB RAM, 1TB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s hard drive, ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB for $2499.
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Remember when apple got rid of FireWire on the portables, and someone made a graphic of the apple logo peeing on the FireWire logo???
Can someone with good drawing/graphic ability create a pic of Tim Cook peeing on a Mac Pro case?? If it comes out really good I would be proud to fly it as my MR avatar.
Can someone with good drawing/graphic ability create a pic of Tim Cook peeing on a Mac Pro case?? If it comes out really good I would be proud to fly it as my MR avatar.
Folks whose image was formed while Apple was in decline and the "lost years" view of the Mac is skewed. That isn't what the Mac was about from the beginning.
The Mac was always about a "box that just worked", not the core foundation for an erector set.
There were ads about how the Mac was "portable" ( since this was really before laptops). The 9" screen was to make it "luggable". There were several bags that were sold that original Mac fit into the size of large backpack :
[ A large number of images of the Apple ads over the years
http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2009/09/the-evolution-of-apple-ads/ ]
Given there were no external wires besides the keyboard and mouse it could be easily packed up and moved.
So really the MacBook is just as close to the original Mac as the iMac is. 11" and 15" screens are much closer to the original Mac 9" than 24" and 27". You can't put the iMac even in a large backpack and move it.
Laptops are "all in one" also. Just even smaller as to be even more portable.
Somewhere along the way folks bought into the notion that the generic PC form factor was the prototypical "Mac" form factor. It wasn't. The Mac II was necessary at the time because technology was immature. It isn't anymore. There are subcomponents chips of modern era Macs that have more transistors and circuitry in them than an entire Mac II.
There is a certain subgroup who try to postulate that the Mac really didn't start until the Mac II. In that revised history, the Mac has to be a large heavy rectangle with no monitor. That is part of Mac history but the Mac as a whole would have failed if that were the only Mac sold in the mid-late 80's.
That's quite doubtful given the price differences.
Relative to the general PC industry the margins on all Macs are huge. Apple doesn't need a super high margin workstation to offset the razor thin or even loss margins of some other Mac model. They all pull their weight in the rowboat.
Actually, this "lack of R&D" update would make more sense if it was when Steve Jobs was alive and in charge of Apple that his wish was to kill desktops. Him dying may have commuted that sentence and this is the result of not having worked on any significant updates for much of 2010-2011. If Apple just started on a new Mac Pro in November-December 2011 this is almost exactly what the result at this point in time would be.
Or if they did start on something and it failed in some large way, they'd have to start over... which again results in this same "placeholder" update to buy more time.
However, again this says nothing about the Macintosh. The Mac is more than any single product model.
Even then, they could have done a little bit more, like e.g. a slightly better graphic card at least in the range of the 6870 (which is already supported by OSX!) or adding a simple USB3 PCIe card together with the necessary drivers. Nothing one could not have achieved within half a year and nothing overwhelming, but it would have been a signal, a gesture!
Just like it would have been a gesture if Tim would have addressed the MacPro openly during his keynote. Only a few sentences on stage would have calmed down many people (in spite of that ludicrous "update") who feel being treated disrespectful now!
Agreed, MS clearly have the desktop user in mind. I mean, look at Windows 8, it is well recieved by the professional community.
Hang on a minute.....
The windows professional community, including developers, is up in arms over Metro. And I don't mean they are jumping for joy either.You're in the minority. I have one and use it daily with no problems (at least no more than my "real" mac has). I don't know when you built it but there are recommended configurations and setups that are about as easy as installing OSX on a "real" mac.
It's not just the Mac Pro, the 17" MacBook Pro just has been discontinued.
I just wonder if Tim Cook is the source of all the dumbing down of Apple's product offerings.
Or would this be a good interpretation:
I just wonder if Tim Cook is the source of all the dumbing down of Apple's product offerings.
Or would this be a good interpretation:
The reality is TIMES CHANGE.
Apple has adapted to what the mass majority of what consumers want, and are in the business of making money.
There is a reason Apple has passed Microsoft in all financial stats (market cap, profit, etc). Apple has moved on and MS hasn't.
If you want a Windows computer, good for you, but it doesn't mean Apple is losing. They have just come to realize that a small niche Pro market is no longer what drives their core business. Apple has a new strategy that they are executing long-term and it looks like it means getting rid of the products that account for only 1% of their sales in order to streamline their business and increase margins even more.
My first computer was an Apple IIe and I have been with Apple since the beginning, so I have been through ALL of the ups and downs and product changes with this company.
Change is tough to take, I know.
Ethan
Apple has adapted to what the mass majority of what consumers want, and are in the business of making money.
There is a reason Apple has passed Microsoft in all financial stats (market cap, profit, etc). Apple has moved on and MS hasn't.
If you want a Windows computer, good for you, but it doesn't mean Apple is losing. They have just come to realize that a small niche Pro market is no longer what drives their core business. Apple has a new strategy that they are executing long-term and it looks like it means getting rid of the products that account for only 1% of their sales in order to streamline their business and increase margins even more.
My first computer was an Apple IIe and I have been with Apple since the beginning, so I have been through ALL of the ups and downs and product changes with this company.
Change is tough to take, I know.
Ethan
Wasn't it Steve Jobs who said "Consumers don't know what they need, we are here to tell them."... Or something along those lines...
I like that philosophy much more than, as you say, adapting to what consumers want...
Having said that... Steve actually had the ideas that made that work... Not so sure about now...