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Assuming maximum specs and excluding price as a factor, which 2017 Macbook Pro would you get today?


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Good response. I do think in apples quest for thinner and lighter and most Apple customers desire for thinner and lighter, many pick the 13 inch due to the smaller foot print
Yeah I’m sure there absolutely is a use case for the 13” and a lot of people that would choose that size all else being equal - but I just don’t think it would be anywhere near as one sided if there was a consumer grade 15” coming in from about $1,500. Particularly as the current 15” is uncannily mobile, I really didn’t think the re-design would make a difference over the 2012-15 models when they were first unveiled in 2016, but after spending some time with them I have really changed my mind on that one - it’s not exaggerating to say it feels every bit as portable as a 13” MacBook Air!
 
Yeah I’m sure there absolutely is a use case for the 13” and a lot of people that would choose that size all else being equal - but I just don’t think it would be anywhere near as one sided if there was a consumer grade 15” coming in from about $1,500. Particularly as the current 15” is uncannily mobile, I really didn’t think the re-design would make a difference over the 2012-15 models when they were first unveiled in 2016, but after spending some time with them I have really changed my mind on that one - it’s not exaggerating to say it feels every bit as portable as a 13” MacBook Air!
Yeah I got a 15” after using an Air and it’s pretty much as portable which is nice. Whether that’s absolutely necessary is another issue.
 
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I have recently bought a 13" MBP (2016) on a crazy offer. But I am considering switching to the 15". To me, price aside, there are the following considerations:

1) The 13" -- for my use case and work -- really calls for the use of a separate monitor. The difference in size with the 15" might not be much, but I have a hunch that the 15" would be just large enough for me to do away with the external monitor -- thereby leading to a great simplification. And I do appreciate minimalism. No external monitor, for me, means going from 4 devices (13MBP, keyboard, trackpad, USB-C monitor) to 1 (the 15" MBP). If this works out in real life, it's quite a simplification, and the cost of keyboard ($100), trackpad ($150), and USB-C monitor (~$600) adds up to the difference between the 13" and 15". Of course, for any of this to make sense you need to do work which is accommodated by the 15" screen but not by the 13". Do I fall into that narrow window? I can't say for sure until I test it for a couple of weeks. But it might be.
2) The resolutions. For me, Apple's default settings make everything too small, both on the 13" and the 15". Right now, I am using the 13" set to "looks like 1280x800". And everything is the right size, but... there is not much on the screen anymore. So in other words, for me, the 15" set to a resolution that I like may actually only give me the same canvas as most people get from the 13" when they leave it at Apple's default setting.
3) The battery. I get 10 hours out of this 2016 TB 13 MBP, and I think the 15" would stretch even longer, from what I read.

...about the weight...: I have recently learnt that if you actually put both straps of the backpack on your shoulder, the weight falls evenly and lo and behold you don't feel it anymore. There I was for the first three decades of my life trying to look cool by only wearing it on one shoulder, and choosing my laptop size on the basis of one shoulder's strength only.
 
Back in late 2015 I bought the 2015 15" MBP, with the intention of putting it on a stand and using it as a desktop replacement, with a mouse and keyboard, plus maybe a trackpad, too.....I figured once I got everything set up then I'd think about an external monitor. Well, here we are in 2018 and I am still happily using the setup I initially established, and interestingly enough I have actually never felt the need to go out and buy an external monitor to give me additional screen real estate......that rather surprised me, but then again most of what I do is read text and such on this machine so a larger monitor really isn't all that necessary. I do occasionally work with editing images, and that is where I'd thought I would want the larger screen, but so far it has not been an issue. Just thought I'd add my tuppence here......
 
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I have recently bought a 13" MBP (2016) on a crazy offer. But I am considering switching to the 15". To me, price aside, there are the following considerations:

1) The 13" -- for my use case and work -- really calls for the use of a separate monitor. The difference in size with the 15" might not be much, but I have a hunch that the 15" would be just large enough for me to do away with the external monitor -- thereby leading to a great simplification. And I do appreciate minimalism. No external monitor, for me, means going from 4 devices (13MBP, keyboard, trackpad, USB-C monitor) to 1 (the 15" MBP). If this works out in real life, it's quite a simplification, and the cost of keyboard ($100), trackpad ($150), and USB-C monitor (~$600) adds up to the difference between the 13" and 15". Of course, for any of this to make sense you need to do work which is accommodated by the 15" screen but not by the 13". Do I fall into that narrow window? I can't say for sure until I test it for a couple of weeks. But it might be.
2) The resolutions. For me, Apple's default settings make everything too small, both on the 13" and the 15". Right now, I am using the 13" set to "looks like 1280x800". And everything is the right size, but... there is not much on the screen anymore. So in other words, for me, the 15" set to a resolution that I like may actually only give me the same canvas as most people get from the 13" when they leave it at Apple's default setting.
3) The battery. I get 10 hours out of this 2016 TB 13 MBP, and I think the 15" would stretch even longer, from what I read.

...about the weight...: I have recently learnt that if you actually put both straps of the backpack on your shoulder, the weight falls evenly and lo and behold you don't feel it anymore. There I was for the first three decades of my life trying to look cool by only wearing it on one shoulder, and choosing my laptop size on the basis of one shoulder's strength only.

the 2 extra inch do make a big difference.
 
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Will your next MacBook be 13 or 15?
hard to say. really depends on my usage.

if its my only computer, probably gonna stay with a 15. i eventually want to get a mac pro honestly, but thats a few years down the line. when it comes to footprint though, the new 15s are really lightweight and compared to the macbook air its honestly not a huge deal at all. i think the 13 tbMBP (as it is now) is a really bad value especially when it comes to battery life. the only way i'd consider a 13 over 15 is if the battery life was way higher

what about you?
 
hard to say. really depends on my usage.

if its my only computer, probably gonna stay with a 15. i eventually want to get a mac pro honestly, but thats a few years down the line. when it comes to footprint though, the new 15s are really lightweight and compared to the macbook air its honestly not a huge deal at all. i think the 13 tbMBP (as it is now) is a really bad value especially when it comes to battery life. the only way i'd consider a 13 over 15 is if the battery life was way higher

what about you?

It can be a hard decision. Not sure how much price plays into it.
 
Back in late 2015 I bought the 2015 15" MBP, with the intention of putting it on a stand and using it as a desktop replacement, with a mouse and keyboard, plus maybe a trackpad, too.....I figured once I got everything set up then I'd think about an external monitor. Well, here we are in 2018 and I am still happily using the setup I initially established, and interestingly enough I have actually never felt the need to go out and buy an external monitor to give me additional screen real estate......that rather surprised me, but then again most of what I do is read text and such on this machine so a larger monitor really isn't all that necessary. I do occasionally work with editing images, and that is where I'd thought I would want the larger screen, but so far it has not been an issue. Just thought I'd add my tuppence here......
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extra size does make a difference .
All in all, for me, being on the go often I’d rather have the 13”. I get that it’s a bit underpowered in comparison, but that’s a trade off I’m willing to make.

It’s not like I need a quad core processor to write JavaScript anyway. Give me a halfway decent 13” and a monitor at home and I’d be happy.

Of course I say that now, when I have a 5k iMac on my desk as well, so maybe I’m biased.
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It can be a hard decision. Not sure how much price plays into it.
Absolutely right! I went from a beast of a 15” recently back to the 13” since Illustrator has been fixed in 10.13.4. It was not an easy one to make, but I love the portability of the 13”. Price had absolutely nothing to do with my decision.
 
All in all, for me, being on the go often I’d rather have the 13”. I get that it’s a bit underpowered in comparison, but that’s a trade off I’m willing to make.

It’s not like I need a quad core processor to write JavaScript anyway. Give me a halfway decent 13” and a monitor at home and I’d be happy.





Of course I say that now, when I have a 5k iMac on my desk as well, so maybe I’m biased.
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Absolutely right! I went from a beast of a 15” recently back to the 13” since Illustrator has been fixed in 10.13.4. It was not an easy one to make, but I love the portability of the 13”. Price had absolutely nothing to do with my decision.

agreed
 
I can relate a lot to the creator of this thread; overanalyzing a big purchase like this comes very often. Hours are spent on Youtube and various forums, researching and comparing until my head is spinning. That's not to say I'd change anything. The process has become, well, fun for me.

A little about myself in relation to this dilemma:
I'm currently a student of computer information technology (mostly because I'm not smart enough for CS, but I love computers).

I've had 13" early 2015 MacBook Pro for the past 3 years. It's got a 2.7 GHz Intel Core i5, 8 GB, and 128 GB of storage.
I love this computer. A lot. I use it for writing/blogging, editing websites, coding in Xcode, running VMs, and editing YouTube videos. Oddly enough, it's powered through all of these tasks like a sexy stallion, with a little bit of lag when I start adding a bunch of graphics to videos while editing.

Throughout these 3 years, it's been exactly what it needed to be. There has been only one slight issue: screen size.
This issue, while rarely noticeable in the beginning, has steadily become more...unfortunate, with the past year being very difficult at certain times.

I have a monitor at home that I plug in to usually when I'm video editing, but unfortunately the location of this monitor is quite often not an ideal working environment. There's a child in the house and if it comes to homework, there is just no way for me to do it add home, being that there's just too much noise (I'm one of those weirdos who utilizes the "quiet rooms" on campus for absolute silence while working). So basically, I have used the monitor for things like video editing because it doesn't require as much concentration as well as some coding here and there. And while the external monitor is great for Xcode, there have been numerous (very possibly the majority) times I can't use it for this purpose because of distractions. So...I need my laptop to be just as capable outside of the house as it is when connected to that monitor (or at least very close).

I also have an iPad Pro (the smaller one), so I do most of my web browsing, social media, drawing, and reading on that. And being that I have this, a small, portable laptop has become less of a desired trait then it used to be. I've had my iPad for the last year and a half.

And finally, my eyes aren't what they used to be. No, I didn't go to a doctor and recently find out my vision is fading. I wasn't recently prescribed glasses. If anything, my 13" MacBook has taught me this, having had to use the trusty CMD+"+" and experiment with resolution more and more recently, which comes with less screen real estate.

Through all of this, and now having enough money to consider a new laptop, the 2017 15" MacBook Pro has caught my attention. When going to Best Buy and the Apple store to look at the new 13" and 15" inch side by side, the 15" elicits two reactions:

"Wow, this screen is perfect!" & "Good god, this screen is massive!" which has been the general (very, very general) representation of my thought regarding this topic.

On one hand, I love the portability of the 13". Love it. I can walk around the house with it, I have no issues opening up in libraries/coffee shops/classrooms. It's comforting to know that I can comfortably take it out anywhere. Even my girlfriend told me she would never ever consider upgrading to a larger size (she has the same MacBook as me).

I love that I can use this MacBook for all my tasks even though it's not a powerhouse of specs. But that screen problem nags at me. Every time I do anything but read forums and write in Pages, I squint and readjust windows and swipe left and right on the trackpads and adjust the resolution back and forth.

After spending several hours reading through this entire thread and hearing great cases for both MacBooks, I've decided to sacrifice (somewhat) portability for more screen.

I'm not a power-user. Not really anyway. You saw all the tasks that I do, but the video editing really isn't all that intense. I don't add graphics until my machine feels like it's been in the oven. I don't do any gaming at all on my MacBook, so I really don't have a use for the dedicated graphics, which is a bummer because I'll be paying extra for that. This being said, we don't have a desktop in the house. My MacBook will have to carry all the weight for whatever task (and whatever new hobbies) I throw at it. Maybe someday I'll put that GPU to work.

I'm not exactly sure which specs are important for running multiple operating systems via Parallels, but aside from light video editing, that's about as hard as I push the MacBook. It is, however very important that I'm able to run OSX, Windows 10, and some version of Linux on demand at all times.

And there you have it.

All this, of course, is pending for 14 days after I get the machine to make sure it serves me well.

The biggest thing I'm worried about is taking a 15" laptop out in class. It's going to seem so bulky and noticeable at first. And I don't like to draw attention to myself in class at all. I guess we'll just wait and see.

For those interested, here's the one I plan on getting:

2017 Macbook Pro with TouchBar
16 GB RAM
512 GB storage
No change to anything else (though I'm pretty sure all the 15" come with 16 GB).
 
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With the advent of proper eGPU support, I kind of wish I'd saved money and bought the 13" rather than 15". I never never need anything more complex than Pages or Safari when I'm away from home, and the prospect of plugging the whole system into an eGPU with external monitor on my desk is very appealing.
 
I can relate a lot to the creator of this thread; overanalyzing a big purchase like this comes very often. Hours are spent on Youtube and various forums, researching and comparing until my head is spinning. That's not to say I'd change anything. The process has become, well, fun for me.

A little about myself in relation to this dilemma:
I'm currently a student of computer information technology (mostly because I'm not smart enough for CS, but I love computers).

I've had 13" early 2015 MacBook Pro for the past 3 years. It's got a 2.7 GHz Intel Core i5, 8 GB, and 128 GB of storage.
I love this computer. A lot. I use it for writing/blogging, editing websites, coding in Xcode, running VMs, and editing YouTube videos. Oddly enough, it's powered through all of these tasks like a sexy stallion, with a little bit of lag when I start adding a bunch of graphics to videos while editing.

Throughout these 3 years, it's been exactly what it needed to be. There has been only one slight issue: screen size.
This issue, while rarely noticeable in the beginning, has steadily become more...unfortunate, with the past year being very difficult at certain times.

I have a monitor at home that I plug in to usually when I'm video editing, but unfortunately the location of this monitor is quite often not an ideal working environment. There's a child in the house and if it comes to homework, there is just no way for me to do it add home, being that there's just too much noise (I'm one of those weirdos who utilizes the "quiet rooms" on campus for absolute silence while working). So basically, I have used the monitor for things like video editing because it doesn't require as much concentration as well as some coding here and there. And while the external monitor is great for Xcode, there have been numerous (very possibly the majority) times I can't use it for this purpose because of distractions. So...I need my laptop to be just as capable outside of the house as it is when connected to that monitor (or at least very close).

I also have an iPad Pro (the smaller one), so I do most of my web browsing, social media, drawing, and reading on that. And being that I have this, a small, portable laptop has become less of a desired trait then it used to be. I've had my iPad for the last year and a half.

And finally, my eyes aren't what they used to be. No, I didn't go to a doctor and recently find out my vision is fading. I wasn't recently prescribed glasses. If anything, my 13" MacBook has taught me this, having had to use the trusty CMD+"+" and experiment with resolution more and more recently, which comes with less screen real estate.

Through all of this, and now having enough money to consider a new laptop, the 2017 15" MacBook Pro has caught my attention. When going to Best Buy and the Apple store to look at the new 13" and 15" inch side by side, the 15" elicits two reactions:

"Wow, this screen is perfect!" & "Good god, this screen is massive!" which has been the general (very, very general) representation of my thought regarding this topic.

On one hand, I love the portability of the 13". Love it. I can walk around the house with it, I have no issues opening up in libraries/coffee shops/classrooms. It's comforting to know that I can comfortably take it out anywhere. Even my girlfriend told me she would never ever consider upgrading to a larger size (she has the same MacBook as me).

I love that I can use this MacBook for all my tasks even though it's not a powerhouse of specs. But that screen problem nags at me. Every time I do anything but read forums and write in Pages, I squint and readjust windows and swipe left and right on the trackpads and adjust the resolution back and forth.

After spending several hours reading through this entire thread and hearing great cases for both MacBooks, I've decided to sacrifice (somewhat) portability for more screen.

I'm not a power-user. Not really anyway. You saw all the tasks that I do, but the video editing really isn't all that intense. I don't add graphics until my machine feels like it's been in the oven. I don't do any gaming at all on my MacBook, so I really don't have a use for the dedicated graphics, which is a bummer because I'll be paying extra for that. This being said, we don't have a desktop in the house. My MacBook will have to carry all the weight for whatever task (and whatever new hobbies) I throw at it. Maybe someday I'll put that GPU to work.

I'm not exactly sure which specs are important for running multiple operating systems via Parallels, but aside from light video editing, that's about as hard as I push the MacBook. It is, however very important that I'm able to run OSX, Windows 10, and some version of Linux on demand at all times.

And there you have it.

All this, of course, is pending for 14 days after I get the machine to make sure it serves me well.

The biggest thing I'm worried about is taking a 15" laptop out in class. It's going to seem so bulky and noticeable at first. And I don't like to draw attention to myself in class at all. I guess we'll just wait and see.

For those interested, here's the one I plan on getting:

2017 Macbook Pro with TouchBar
16 GB RAM
512 GB storage
No change to anything else (though I'm pretty sure all the 15" come with 16 GB).

did you end up getting a 15 ?
 
I have recently bought a 13" MBP (2016) on a crazy offer. But I am considering switching to the 15". To me, price aside, there are the following considerations:

1) The 13" -- for my use case and work -- really calls for the use of a separate monitor. The difference in size with the 15" might not be much, but I have a hunch that the 15" would be just large enough for me to do away with the external monitor -- thereby leading to a great simplification. And I do appreciate minimalism. No external monitor, for me, means going from 4 devices (13MBP, keyboard, trackpad, USB-C monitor) to 1 (the 15" MBP). If this works out in real life, it's quite a simplification, and the cost of keyboard ($100), trackpad ($150), and USB-C monitor (~$600) adds up to the difference between the 13" and 15". Of course, for any of this to make sense you need to do work which is accommodated by the 15" screen but not by the 13". Do I fall into that narrow window? I can't say for sure until I test it for a couple of weeks. But it might be.
2) The resolutions. For me, Apple's default settings make everything too small, both on the 13" and the 15". Right now, I am using the 13" set to "looks like 1280x800". And everything is the right size, but... there is not much on the screen anymore. So in other words, for me, the 15" set to a resolution that I like may actually only give me the same canvas as most people get from the 13" when they leave it at Apple's default setting.
3) The battery. I get 10 hours out of this 2016 TB 13 MBP, and I think the 15" would stretch even longer, from what I read.

...about the weight...: I have recently learnt that if you actually put both straps of the backpack on your shoulder, the weight falls evenly and lo and behold you don't feel it anymore. There I was for the first three decades of my life trying to look cool by only wearing it on one shoulder, and choosing my laptop size on the basis of one shoulder's strength only.

Don’t want to be annoying quoting myself, but, just to say, I have been the proud owner of a 15” model for the last week and I cannot believe that it’s taken me this long to come to such an obvious conclusion. 15” is perfect. It feels like you are on a real Mac - not like a stopgap solution waiting to get to an iMac, which was my feeling when using 13” and 12” laptops. I am really kind of surprised to say this, but I think most of my disaffection with the Mac product line in recent years boils down to me having never seriously entertained the idea of a 15” MBP until now (and that, of course, if partly because of the high price....)
 
Don’t want to be annoying quoting myself, but, just to say, I have been the proud owner of a 15” model for the last week and I cannot believe that it’s taken me this long to come to such an obvious conclusion. 15” is perfect. It feels like you are on a real Mac - not like a stopgap solution waiting to get to an iMac, which was my feeling when using 13” and 12” laptops. I am really kind of surprised to say this, but I think most of my disaffection with the Mac product line in recent years boils down to me having never seriously entertained the idea of a 15” MBP until now (and that, of course, if partly because of the high price....)

do you find it to big for using on a lap or coffee shop?
 
Better, actually, on the lap — more stable than the 13”.
So far I have only used it in not too crammed cafes and libraries. But broadly speaking my sense is that if you have enough space to whip open a 13”, you’ll manage to open the 15” too. If it’s a tight sport to be using the 13” in, maybe just use an iPad..
 
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Better, actually, on the lap — more stable than the 13”.
So far I have only used it in not too crammed cafes and libraries. But broadly speaking my sense is that if you have enough space to whip open a 13”, you’ll manage to open the 15” too. If it’s a tight sport to be using the 13” in, maybe just use an iPad..
good point
 
I have made this leap back and forth so often over the years. I have finally decided on the 15 since I just flat out need the power to drive the number of displays that I use on my desk. The 13 no matter what it is does not have the GPU chops to push the displays that I like to use.

So here I am stuck on the 15. Please apple make a 13 with a low grade DGPU so that I can drive monitors at 30 to 60 fps for desktop use only.
 
With the advent of proper eGPU support, I kind of wish I'd saved money and bought the 13" rather than 15". I never never need anything more complex than Pages or Safari when I'm away from home, and the prospect of plugging the whole system into an eGPU with external monitor on my desk is very appealing.

I like this as well. I went with the 15" when I got my 2016 because I wanted more workspace when I'm not docked and because I want the power of the GPU if I need it.
 
This is a great thread; thanks for the effort!

I've been torn between the 2 also. It seems the 15 has everything in its favor, except for the size, portability, and the sleekness factor... especially when pulling out the laptop on the go, the 13 may be considered a bit less obnoxious depending on the circumstance, and this FEELING is a real thing to consider. I've been at dinner table meetings where I was really glad I wasn't engaging my old 15" tank on the table. The 13 has been great to move around with, and I always appreciate the way it looks and fits everywhere, every time I look at it. However, the 15 is built small enough that it fits in my 13-inch backpack, and 1 pound extra is not really noticeable. Bigger screen, better speakers, longer battery life, much faster, discrete graphics for my mapping programs... and the 15 is the winner.

The main consideration for me is the screen size, as I am not seeing tiny text as clearly as I used to, and I find myself ducking toward the screen. I compared the 2 models at the store side by side. I like to run More Space (1680x1050) on the 13, as any less is just not enough space, and this leaves things a bit too small. The Default on the 15 is 1680x1050, so I see EXACTLY the same amount of text/graphics as the 13, but everything is larger proportionally: large enough to see it clearly. And, the More Space setting on the 15 really adds a good amount more acreage, if I still want to squint a bit when I need even more space. I kind of have the best of both worlds with the 15. I’ve had the 13 for a year, and am now moving to the 15.



I use a 28” monitor most of the time as an extended desktop at home. It's great to sit down at my desk and hook up to a USB dock, charger, ethernet, and 4k monitor WITH ONE PLUG! I still use the built in screen at the same time, and I often feel like I want another monitor because the 13 is pretty small (tiny text, and lower down) at my desk. I think the 15 will alleviate most of that feeling.


I have never been left wanting while transferring big files from the "half" USB ports on the right side. I get the same 300-400MB/s transfer speeds in and out and across no matter what ports I hook my high speed external SSDs up to.


Also, I am ASTOUNDED what I can do with the MBP 13 TB 16GB i5 2.9. I can seriously have some stuff going on, and it just does it all: Parallel's Windows 10, multiple browsers, multiple Excel, Word, Numbers, and Pages docs, multiple web and local videos running (just for testing), Google Earth... it just keeps it all afloat very comfortably. That being said, I know a quad core with discrete graphics will be a bit smoother and quicker, especially when panning around detailed 3d maps.



As far as the Touch Bar goes, I LOVE IT. Besides the fingerprint reader, which I consider mandatory after having them for so many years in Windows, I love being able to configure this very flexible toolbar to my liking: screen capture, volume and brightness SLIDERS, mute, lock, sleep… whatever. I like it so much more than function keys, and its so much more useful. I don’t yet find myself, after a year, using the app specific features that much, but it is so useful even if I don’t. With all of the negativity about TB, I hope Apple keeps it around. It is a definite addition to my computer use, and I am not enamored with decades old function keys; this is a step forward in my book.



I consider myself a power user. Portability is sexy, and it feels good. Despite all of the power and capability of the 13, I still feel like I am making a compromise 95% of the time I am using it, even though much of my power work load has diminished. I used to love sports cars (Firebird, aka a bit cramped) for a daily driver… now I would rather drive my X5 anywhere. I’m still drawn back to the 15 size and performance. Thank goodness the MBP 15 TB is still 3 pounds lighter than and half as thick as my old Lenovo T530, which I traveled all over the world with.
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Does anyone here run Final Cut Pro X on their MacBook Pro? If so is there a big difference between the 13” and 15” when it comes to running Final Cut Pro X and editing footage?

I have not run FCPX on my 15 yet, but I couldn't imagine it running any better than it did on the 13. Of course, rendering is a different story, and the quad core will likely do it 1.5-2 times as fast... actually using it though, FX, cutting and editing... I never noticed any lag on a 13 TB 16gb i5 2.9
 
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