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rnbwd

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ublock hasn't been kept up-to-date with ublock-origin for chrome / firefox, although ublock/ublock-origin are still basically the same... modern content blockers can go one step beyond what the old extensions were capable of (which is why some websites are breaking like youtube) and they may have taken out some default methods that could prevent old extensions from working normally (I noticed some old extensions acting weird in the new safari)
 

jazz1

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Is anyone finding that some web sites seem to be fighting back. Like refusing to load until you turn the blocker off. I seem to be hitting this in Forbes, and when doing a Google search. Maybe it is the funky network at home and at work? I think I just saw an article that one site demands no blocking, or it zips you to a subscription page if you have blocking on. Can blocking be stealthy? Frankly I am willing to whitelist some sites, but active blocking on the part of web sites is pretty desperate, and makes me not want to whitelist them. I know there is no easy answer here, as people need to make a living. But the tracking and obnoxious ads on some sites deserve some kind of throttling.
 

flowsy

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Two new ones arrived on the Safari Extension site. Adblocker for Finland and Clearly. Still waiting for Purify.

Edit: Clearly not compatible with YouTube. Videos are not playing!
 
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clee290

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Tried a few content blockers (Wipr, Adamant, Ka-Block, and one other) and didn't really like the video delay on YouTube. Going back to uBlock for the time being, hopefully these content blockers will get better.
 

rnbwd

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Safari is running extremely fast with these new content blockers and I discovered how to bypass the video delay with open user scripts. Basically, most of these sites are using javascript to detect whether or not an ad was loaded or clicked, but these new content blockers are preventing resources from being loaded altogether, and the extensions (so far) don't have whitelists or any way to customize their behavior. So, in order to bypass these intentional / unintentional consequences, you have to implement front-end scripts to signal events that trick the website into thinking an ad was loaded. Unfortunately it's not a 'one-size-fits-all' solution, extensions will need to adapt as websites modify their techniques for ad-detection.
 
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rnbwd

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Okay, scratch that. I did as many perf runs as I could with a combo of adblock-plus, ublock, and the new extensions, together and separately and combined. The new extensions are all slower :( But not by much, and they have the benefit of content blocking (ublock is starting to break for me). So, IMO some combo of a 'traditional' adblocker with a 'new-age' content blocker is probably your best bet. Kinda disappointed honestly, but none of them are fully usable or performant yet

edit: cache was disabled for fairness. A new content blocker might load a cached page faster because I assume optimized for that situation.

double edit: I just confirmed (on this site at least) that 'new-age' content blockers work significantly faster on cached pages, and enabling an old ad blocker significantly reduced the load time of a cached page... hmmm
 
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Queen6

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Okay, scratch that. I did as many perf runs as I could with a combo of adblock-plus, ublock, and the new extensions, together and separately and combined. The new extensions are all slower :( But not by much, and they have the benefit of content blocking (ublock is starting to break for me). So, IMO some combo of a 'traditional' adblocker with a 'new-age' content blocker is probably your best bet. Kinda disappointed honestly, but none of them are fully usable or performant yet

edit: cache was disabled for fairness. A new content blocker might load a cached page faster because I assume optimized for that situation.

double edit: I just confirmed (on this site at least) that 'new-age' content blockers work significantly faster on cached pages, and enabling an old ad blocker significantly reduced the load time of a cached page... hmmm

Have seen some instances of uBlock freezing on Safari 9.0 OS, X 10.11, so am now running both uBlock & Wipr in tandem. So far uBlock has been fine, with nothing I don't want getting through. Performance superficially is the same, equally I am not really looking at in any depth.

With OS X 10.10.5 I have not see any issue with uBlock, so have yet to double up the "blockers"

Q-6
 

Paulk

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Okay, scratch that. I did as many perf runs as I could with a combo of adblock-plus, ublock, and the new extensions, together and separately and combined. The new extensions are all slower :( But not by much, and they have the benefit of content blocking (ublock is starting to break for me). So, IMO some combo of a 'traditional' adblocker with a 'new-age' content blocker is probably your best bet. Kinda disappointed honestly, but none of them are fully usable or performant yet

edit: cache was disabled for fairness. A new content blocker might load a cached page faster because I assume optimized for that situation.

double edit: I just confirmed (on this site at least) that 'new-age' content blockers work significantly faster on cached pages, and enabling an old ad blocker significantly reduced the load time of a cached page... hmmm

There is obviously a whole world of stuff to get into and learn on this. Fascinating...
 

JXShine

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Using Wipr in combination with clicktoflash. Everything works perfectly (including youtube)

Wipr seems to be doing a much better job at managing blank spaces than the other blockers.
 

Bbeelzebub

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I've been trying them out periodically. I like Wipr the best I believe, however, none of them work well on youtube for me. Watching a black screen for 20 seconds or whatever is even worse than the ads.

I'm dying to ditch uBlock, but there doesn't seem to be anything better. However, as the owner of that project has deserted it, I doubt it will stay much better for long. I also won't be buying his new OS X Content Blocker "Purify" because he's an A***
 

pcfacts

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Try Adguard. It's not a content blocker but it's been working well for me. You can find it on Safari's extension gallery.
 

clee290

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Can confirm that with Wipr and YouTube Center, the YouTube video delay is gone. And I don't have flash installed on my machine either.
 
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Wheelie4

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If you use clicktoflash or clicktoplugin with Wipr you won't get that delay before videos on YouTube. I've experienced it when I disabled clicktoplugin but not on all the videos.
 

Bbeelzebub

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Okay, the combo of Wipr with Click to Flash is pretty excellent. Even the ads on CNN are being blocked now. That never happens. I have to click twice though on CNN to get it to play. No commercial, then a little red rotating box, then the video. ( I rarely watch the videos there, but I read articles and hate the autoload of videos.)

As for youtube, Is there a way to just make the videos automatically load in html5 without having to click it each time? *Nevermind, found it.



My browser is a bit smoother this way. Thanks for the tips!
 
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Ulenspiegel

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Speaking of uBlock for Safari... that same dev. has a iOS content blocker called Purify, and I noticed a Reddit comment that he is working on an OS X version of the same content blocker. Hopefully he brings the iOS Purify features over to the OS X version since it does allow whitelisting.
@Weaselboy: Weasel, finally I gave up on AdBlock and installed uBlock. I started having problems with certain sites, including MR. Swipe-back resulted in a blank page a lot of times and it got on my nerves. uBlock handles these webpages w/o any problems so far.
 
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Bbeelzebub

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Something I notice here, Wipr handles tracking better than uBlock. With uBlock, some tracking cookies are getting in, regardless of how many lists I have set up. With Wipr, none are present at all. As for problems on sites, I haven't noticed anything personally, but I'm sure there will be something.
 
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Geert76

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As for youtube, Is there a way to just make the videos automatically load in html5 without having to click it each time? *Nevermind, found it.

I am trying to get this to work witht the same combo of Wipr and ClickToFlash. Could you point me out where to load those videos in HTML5 automagically? thanks! :)
 

Bbeelzebub

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I am trying to get this to work witht the same combo of Wipr and ClickToFlash. Could you point me out where to load those videos in HTML5 automagically? thanks! :)


Settings > Media Player > Default > html5.


To get to the settings, go to the extensions page in your Safari prefs and click the settings for C2F.
 
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