the first day

[bostonte]

I can't argue that the iPhone doesn't have some issues. I myself have a few things on a "wishlist" for software updates.

But... this is an APPLE product. And like just about every other Apple product it's priced more expensive than the competition, lacks some features/advantages of the competition, yet still manages to sell because in place it offers things that the competition doesn't.

I find Apple products to be the easiest purchasing decisions. Apple lists the features and the price, and I can decide if the price point is right for what those features will do for me. And, unlike my experience with just about every other company -- the Apple product will do A, B, and C that they advertised. Rather than advertising A through Z, with the product doing nothing really all that well.

If you can't find advantages over your previous phone -- why on earth would you spend $600 on the iPhone? Clearly something must have caught your eye. There's bigger issues if you bought a $600 phone just to send photos of it to your friends to make them jealous.

And you're probably right that many of these features should have been included on launch. Wouldn't it be easier for you, and potentially more productive for everyone, if you just brought your iPhone back and explained to the store why? (So the company that has the power to produce the software to fix it could maybe do something about it....)

 

[Lancetx]

Hmm, I hate to feed the astroturfing trolls, but these are just so lame. So let's see...

I personally don't give a damn that the iPhone doesn't do MMS. If I take a picture with my iPhone, I'll simply e-mail it to my friends from my iPhone.

If I want to send a message to more than one of my friends at the same time, I'll simply send a single e-mail addressed to each one of them from my iPhone. And yes, I can also send text messages via e-mail if I wanted to as well, it's quite simple to do if you know their carrier.

If I ever wanted to use Bose headphones, I would simply buy a $9 adapter, but I don't, so I won't.

It's really not that difficult to figure these things out....

 

[whooleytoo]

I think the first two are reasonable complaints. The lack of group txting and MMS are two oversights you might expect a company new to the phone market to make (or, a company so arrogant it doesn't think it has to provide the basic standard feature set; you choose).

However the third feature is a bit iffy. Very few phones provide a standard headphone jack - presumably, it's a nice way to create a locked-in market for accessories - whereas Apple does. It's just a pity they've designed it in such a way that it limits the choice of devices.

 

[maddog9]

hopefully apple will release it this week but it will be soon

Ps your funny even if you are a troll

thanks my post really was just an attempt at humor instead doing any actual work but your the only one finding it funny...

I might not be particularly good looking and maybe I live under a bridge, but i'm no troll

 

[maddog9]

Hmm, I hate to feed the astroturfing trolls, but these are just so lame. So let's see...

If I want to send a message to more than one of my friends at the same time, I'll simply send a single e-mail addressed to each one of them from my iPhone. And yes, I can also send text messages via e-mail if I wanted to as well, it's quite simple to do if you know their carrier.

If I ever wanted to use Bose headphones, I would simply buy a $9 adapter, but I don't, so I won't.

It's really not that difficult to figure these things out....

well forgive me for being such a moron...

but explain to me how you "e-mail" something to someone's phone. I've tried their "phonenumber@whatevercellcarrier.com and had no luck
please share your infinite wisdom

 

[darngooddesign]

I'm not out to prove I have one and I THOUGHT I did my homework on the iphone, I assumed you could do all of those simple things i mentioned. yes it is amazing, yes there is nothing like it, my point, which so far every single one of you brainiacs has missed, is that for $600 WHY DOESNT IT DO WHAT ALL OTHER PHONES COME STANDARD WITH...IF IT DID IT WOULD BE WORTH THE MONEY.

people have sent pictures to my phone and i cant get them? wtf?

Assuming is not doing your homework.

I dont consider mass texting a basic feature, I don't even consider it a necessary feature. Then again I'd be annoyed if someone I know texted me to just show off their new gadget.

I could care less if I can take a photo of myself, then again I'm not interested in showing off. The majority of phones don't have a camera facing the user which suiits me fine because I'm more interested in taking pictures of other things.

Having lived through plenty of devices that break their headphone jacks I'm very happy that Apple's is braced by having the jack recessed in the iPhone. You would have to buy an adapter for the majority of phones out there because they use that miniature plug. How is the iPhone different?

 

[johnnybluejeans]

well forgive me for being such a moron...

but explain to me how you "e-mail" something to someone's phone. I've tried their "phonenumber@whatevercellcarrier.com and had no luck
please share your infinite wisdom

You email my phone by emailing me at my email address. I have an iPhone and it has a mail application that can handle photos, word documents, pdfs and excel spreadsheets. Way more useful than MMS.

 

[maddog9]

You email my phone by emailing me at my email address. I have an iPhone and it has a mail application that can handle photos, word documents, pdfs and excel spreadsheets. Way more useful than MMS.

yes i understand i could just send them to an email address, i'm talking about sending to someones phone who may not have email but has mms...and vice versa...people have sent pics to my phone but i cant get them...its just so easy on my old blackberry

 

[Sobe]

yes i understand i could just send them to an email address, i'm talking about sending to someones phone who may not have email but has mms...and vice versa...people have sent pics to my phone but i cant get them...its just so easy on my old blackberry

Well just have to drag those non email MMS people into the 21st century, kicking and screaming, one email and one iPhone at a time =D

 

[vannibombonato]

Hmm, I hate to feed the astroturfing trolls, but these are just so lame. So let's see...

I personally don't give a damn that the iPhone doesn't do MMS. If I take a picture with my iPhone, I'll simply e-mail it to my friends from my iPhone.

If I want to send a message to more than one of my friends at the same time, I'll simply send a single e-mail addressed to each one of them from my iPhone. And yes, I can also send text messages via e-mail if I wanted to as well, it's quite simple to do if you know their carrier.

If I ever wanted to use Bose headphones, I would simply buy a $9 adapter, but I don't, so I won't.

It's really not that difficult to figure these things out....

That's an answer which is as biased as the "troll" that started this thread.
I think its fair to say that Apple clearly stated what this phone does or does not, and then its up to us to decide. You dont care about MMS? Good for you!

But pretending that no, in the end this phone has no SMS-MMS because you can send emails instead of MMS, or very simply (pure Apple style indeed...) go figure out which carriers your friends have (tough luck if you dont know) and then edit their address, thats too much. These are tricky workarounds, exactly the opposite of the easy-it-just-work philosophy. And do realize that logic should tell you that an email is different from an MMS: not everyone checks email every minute, not everyone has access to emails everyday, and accept the fact that there are people out there who actually enjoy shooting a picture at a party and have their friends see it one minute after. Not the day after.

This said, these are obviously flaws for people who care about this stuff. For people who dont, good for them. But do not stretch into pretending that the guy is a troll because in the end you can workaround those flaws with pathetic solutions. Its like saying that you dont need a cell phone to call somebody, since you can use a public phone...line is even better, no?

 

[Sobe]

And do realize that logic should tell you that an email is different from an MMS: not everyone checks email every minute, not everyone has access to emails everyday, and accept the fact that there are people out there who actually enjoy shooting a picture at a party and have their friends see it one minute after. Not the day after.

If everyone had an iPhone the lack of MMS wouldn't be a problem, everyone would just use email. And while I am being a bit silly, it wouldn't surprise me if that's how the designers thought. It's an insular thing and I would bet that it won't be long before every cell phone sold has a data plan.

 

[Lancetx]

But do not stretch into pretending that the guy is a troll because in the end you can workaround those flaws with pathetic solutions.

And those that own iPhones and are satisfied with them are now not entitled to have their own opinions? So you're saying that only those like yourself that have complaints have the right to say anything? I offered legitimate alternatives to his "issues" and you choose not accept them. That's fine. Good for you! The simple fact is, if the iPhone doesn't do what you need it to, then don't buy it. It's really rather simple.

As for the trolling, if the shoe fits, wear it. It's just very ironic how frequently it's a "newbie" that is posting this kind of stuff....

 

[zap2]

But do not stretch into pretending that the guy is a troll because in the end you can workaround those flaws with pathetic solutions. ?

But he isn't even saying that, we give him a solution, and he doesn't even talk about it.





Not to mention, I've yet to see his iPhone yet! He knows my email.....hit me up with some pictures, I'll be waiting


(Trolls are too much fun to feed on a hot summer day, no?)

 

[vannibombonato]

And those that own iPhones and are satisfied with them are now not entitled to have their own opinions? So you're saying that only those like yourself that have complaints have the right to say anything? I offered legitimate alternatives to his "issues" and you choose not accept them. That's fine. Good for you! The simple fact is, if the iPhone doesn't do what you need it to, then don't buy it. It's really rather simple.

As for the trolling, if the shoe fits, wear it. It's just very ironic how frequently it's a "newbie" that is posting this kind of stuff....

1- Anyone is entitled to express an opinion.
2- You offer legitimate "solutions", and i express the legitimate opinion that your solutions, to me, are as valid as telling someone who misses his flight to quit complaining since he can rent a car. Putting wings on a car does not make it fly.
3- I am the first one to say that iPhone upsides and downsides are well known and specified, and its entirely up to the consumer to decide wether to buy or not. I personally think its absurdly stupid to buy an iphone and then complain that it doesn't do MMS/whatever.
4- Regarding the newbie thing, it worries me more when "experts" show incompetence.

 

[vannibombonato]

If everyone had an iPhone the lack of MMS wouldn't be a problem, everyone would just use email. And while I am being a bit silly, it wouldn't surprise me if that's how the designers thought. It's an insular thing and I would bet that it won't be long before every cell phone sold has a data plan.

I have no technical expertise to judge wether it's easy or not to implement MMS into an iphone, but I would not label at all your opinion as "silly"...its silly for anyone "normal", but nobody normal start up something like Apple and take it where it is. Those guys could really be crazy enough to have decided that the MMS era is over for everybody, and its time for email everywhere, anytime.
We will see with the updates/Euro launch...im really really curious.

 

[waterskier2007]

well forgive me for being such a moron...

but explain to me how you "e-mail" something to someone's phone. I've tried their "phonenumber@whatevercellcarrier.com and had no luck
please share your infinite wisdom

oh my god it was posted on the first page as a link to an ilounge forum and it explained right there how to do it. look there and stop being ridiculous