"The future of computing is the iPad"

[rowspaxe]

Was told, heard and read this line over seven years ago. I'm still waiting for the day where tablets take over desk or laptops. It isn't going to happen.

Would love a thread discussing how overated mobile productivity is.

 

[Count Blah]

Would love a thread discussing how overated mobile productivity is.

Search up Tim's 'Ditch the computer for an iPad" quote here on MacRumors. Everyone where it's mentioned, can easily highlight the deficiency in that premature statement.

 

[Olganech]

Fair enough, definitely depends on need. I guess I still see this being able to be done via digital download (similar to what I do) vs blu-ray rips. Just seems outdated to me.

Try relying on streaming media when you are stuck in a hostel with shared crappy Wi-Fi for a month then you would be praying for a 1TB hard disk with all your movies and TV series loaded on it.

I have a Plex server with everything on it but it is nice to have everything on hard disk when my wife and I go somewhere with patchy Wi-Fi.

 

[DNichter]

Try relying on streaming media when you are stuck in a hostel with shared crappy Wi-Fi for a month then you would be praying for a 1TB hard disk with all your movies and TV series loaded on it.

I have a Plex server with everything on it but it is nice to have everything on hard disk when my wife and I go somewhere with patchy Wi-Fi.

Oh yea definitely, that's why you can just download movies to your device before heading to your hostel. Problem solved.

 

[Olganech]

Oh yea definitely, that's why you can just download movies to your device before heading to your hostel. Problem solved.

When did Apple start offering a 1TB iPad?

 

[DNichter]

When did Apple start offering a 1TB iPad?

This goes back to my original point. I, personally, do not understand why someone needs to have 1TB of movies with them at a given time. But, if you really do, I believe they make portable hard drives for such things that can connect to the iPad. I think it's such a small minority of people that could ever want such a thing, that Apple doesn't see the need to support it, for now.

 

[alecgold]

This goes back to my original point. I, personally, do not understand why someone needs to have 1TB of movies with them at a given time. But, if you really do, I believe they make portable hard drives for such things that can connect to the iPad. I think it's such a small minority of people that could ever want such a thing, that Apple doesn't see the need to support it, for now.

Portable wifi hdd's at $40 bucks. That's not an extreme investment if you want "limitless" video's.

 

[Olganech]

Portable wifi hdd's at $40 bucks. That's not an extreme investment if you want "limitless" video's.

Patchy Wi-Fi so a Wi-Fi based hard disk is useless.

I just leave the iPad at. Home and take a tablet that has a MicroSD slot.

 

[sparksd]

Patchy Wi-Fi so a Wi-Fi based hard disk is useless.

I just leave the iPad at. Home and take a tablet that has a MicroSD slot.

WiFi transmitter is built into the disk - doesn't use an external router. (I use a small FileHub with HDD myself). Or is the WiFi on your iPad faulty?

 

[fokmik]

So the future of computing for ipad is closing in since starting with ios11 we will have file management and drag and drop. And lets see what else,but those 2 alone are making the ipad and the larger screen a value for money

 

[profets]

Non-sense.

HEVC H.265 requires half the bitrate of AVC H.264 for the same level of video quality. The benefits are...

- store twice the amount of videos for the same storage size (for example, 32GB device is now equivalent to 64GB for videos)
- data cap lasts two times longer for streaming video
- save money from not having to upgrade to a higher tier internet broadband plan
- stream higher quality video at same bitrate
- extend the life of existing WIFI equipment without having to spend money to upgrade
- services like YouTube, Netflix, etc. are making modern codecs a requirement for 1440p and higher streaming
- avoiding obsolescence and having to buying a newer device
etc.

I guess you'll be happy to see all the HEVC announcements for macOS, iOS as well as hardware accelerated support on even existing hardware.

 

[sdwaltz]

The iPad IS the future of computing, for most people anyway. Until they give me some friggin' mouse support I'll need a desktop/laptop because I do extensive work with Excel and Word and when you try to use those on an iPad, gorilla arm is too real.

Most things are flat-out easier to do on an iPad nowadays, with the exception of what I mentioned. Even photo editing on an iPad is about as easy to do as it is on a computer now. Video? Not so much.

 

[Altis]

Most things are flat-out easier to do on an iPad nowadays, with the exception of what I mentioned. Even photo editing on an iPad is about as easy to do as it is on a computer now. Video? Not so much.

Basic photo adjustments maybe, but for anything more, I'll take a 27"+ monitor that's color-calibrated.

 

[profets]

It's not even good as a consumption device since even the 2016 iPP 9.7 lacks modern HEVC hardware accelerated playback that other devices have had since 2014.

Non-sense.

HEVC H.265 requires half the bitrate of AVC H.264 for the same level of video quality. The benefits are...

- store twice the amount of videos for the same storage size (for example, 32GB device is now equivalent to 64GB for videos)
- data cap lasts two times longer for streaming video
- save money from not having to upgrade to a higher tier internet broadband plan
- stream higher quality video at same bitrate
- extend the life of existing WIFI equipment without having to spend money to upgrade
- services like YouTube, Netflix, etc. are making modern codecs a requirement for 1440p and higher streaming
- avoiding obsolescence and having to buying a newer device
etc.

Meh. iPad Pro struggles with 1080p HEVC software decoding since Apple was too cheap to license HEVC codec and build accelerated hardware decoding into A9X SoC. Even a $46 SBC handles 4K HEVC perfectly.

http://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G145457216438

Not sure if you're still around, but you should be happy to hear that not only is apple enabling HVEC in iOS and macOS (And I'm sure in tvOS this fall), but all A9 & A10 devices have accelerated hardware built in that will be enabled with iOS 11. It also looks like all photos and videos taken with iOS 11 will be default use HEIF and HVEC, so h265 will be used quite heavily.

 

[mrex]

ehm... minimum requirements:

ios (hevc decoding)
hw: A9, 8bit and 10 bit
sw: all

macos (hw hevc decoding)
skylake 8bit
kabylake 10bit

macos (sw hevc decoding)
all macs

hevc hw encoding:
ios, 8bit, A10
macos, 8bit, from skylake

hevc sw encoding
10bit, all macs


sw de/encoding is going to use the cpu alot

It also looks like all photos and videos taken with iOS 11 will be default use HEIF and HVEC, so h265 will be used quite heavily.

and you need a10 (x) to able to encode heif, which means only iphone7, ipad pro 10.5" and second gen ipad pro 12.9" - no sw encoding support for heif.

 

[profets]

I think this is also an excellent sign that we’ll see an updated TV this fall with HEVC and 4K support.

 

[spiderman0616]

For me it's the present of computing. I was a little mad at Tim Cook when he first had that quote about "why would you buy a PC at this point?" I had just bought a new MacBook Pro at the time, and felt like Apple was abandoning the MacBook users. I had just sold my iPad Air 1 and used the proceeds to buy a MacBook Pro. I'm sure I have some posts around these parts regarding that decision.

A few months later when the "baby Pro" was announced, I immediately regretted my decision and switched back to full time iPad for my personal usage. (With my work Mac to fall back on if needed, of course.) I do everything, and I mean absolutely everything, I need to do on a computer on my iPad Pro.

When the iPad first came out in 2010, I thought "This is the computer I have always wanted." When the iPad Pro came out, I thought, "This is the kind of computer I always hoped the iPad would turn into." When iOS 11 was announced, I thought, "This is the start of the software that completes the transformation." I'm not upgrading my 9.7" Pro, but I am VERY much looking forward to the software update it's about to get in a few months. What a great WWDC this was for the iPad in general.

 

[alecgold]

For me it's the present of computing. I was a little mad at Tim Cook when he first had that quote about "why would you buy a PC at this point?" I had just bought a new MacBook Pro at the time, and felt like Apple was abandoning the MacBook users. I had just sold my iPad Air 1 and used the proceeds to buy a MacBook Pro. I'm sure I have some posts around these parts regarding that decision.

A few months later when the "baby Pro" was announced, I immediately regretted my decision and switched back to full time iPad for my personal usage. (With my work Mac to fall back on if needed, of course.) I do everything, and I mean absolutely everything, I need to do on a computer on my iPad Pro.

When the iPad first came out in 2010, I thought "This is the computer I have always wanted." When the iPad Pro came out, I thought, "This is the kind of computer I always hoped the iPad would turn into." When iOS 11 was announced, I thought, "This is the start of the software that completes the transformation." I'm not upgrading my 9.7" Pro, but I am VERY much looking forward to the software update it's about to get in a few months. What a great WWDC this was for the iPad in general.

I absolutely agree, I would like to give you three thumbs up!
My iPhone and iPP 12 haven't got the iOS 11 yet, I need them for daily work.
But I really love iOS 11 on my iPP 9 and regret I don't dare to install it yet on my other devices. The new screen keyboard is so useful! I didn't trust it t first, found it a bit "un-minimalistic" bit it's so convenient.
The bar at the bottom of the screen for choosing another app. I now have about 8 apps and it has become my favorite way of swapping between apps.
The new split screen is so logical, not a big screen left and a small screen left, you can choose where you want them.
Airpods...
Notes at the login screen...
So many features (that should have been there years ago ) that make my life easier and work more productive.[/QUOTE]