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Just call your machine Verbal Kint. :rolleyes:

Just as Mr. Kint limped into that cluttered office in the police station, your crippled 2014 came into your home or office lacking essentials like an i7 CPU, SSD storage, and 16GB of RAM. ;)

How does your FD powered mini perform CaptMarvel? What is the boot time on that little gray box?

That i5/8GB/1TB FD mini will certainly be sufficient for all sorts of work. If you use Activity Monitor to check Memory Pressure it should reveal that your 8GB of RAM is adequate for anything that you want to do. Programs like Photoshop and music software should do fine with that much memory. The folks who truly need 16GB are often running multiple (or really RAM hungry) Virtual Machines. This Macworld article claims that 8GB is enough for many virtual machine scenarios. http://www.macworld.com/article/203...ifications-of-additional-memory-on-a-mac.html

I was surprised to see small difference between 8GB and 16GB in some of their test configurations. It was also interesting that the tests showed that the advantage that 8GB had over 4GB in Photoshop CS6 was not automatically shared with other programs. According to Macworld, iTunes, Handbrake, iPhoto, iMovie, and other software showed only minor improvements (if any) when the RAM was increased beyond 4GB!

That $800 for the 1TB PCIe SSD is a premium price for the fastest storage option in Mac mini history. Is it worth that much? Does any particular machine need it? Those are subjective questions that consumers will answer on a case-by-case basis. Your 16GB of RAM question is similar. But…

I think that you could be right in the case of your FD equipped mini. At 4X the price it appears to be “more cost effective” even though the 16GB will not improve performance most of the time. I would prefer the memory upgrade because maxing the memory is much less expensive and you cannot do it later. Despite the performance advantage, the 1TB PCIe SSD from Apple is crazy expensive. Unlike memory upgrades, big PCIe SSDs can be purchased elsewhere and/or in the future for much less $.

Spending the extra $800 would get you a similarly sized storage system that is definitely faster than your FD. Would it be $800 faster? o_O

I'm pretty sure boot time is only a few seconds, but ill be sure to pull out my stop watch to time the cold cranking amps! As far as regular performance, I love it. I guess i had grown so used to my slow windows machine that is still kicking. I'll eventually transfer everything off of that PC and probably transfer to a LaCie storage drive..just contemplating on which one to get...1TB or 2TB, probably the latter. no rush though. I tend to be a file hoarder.

i can figure out a few ways ways to spend $800 on other products for my mac mini.

The knowledge you are sharing is much appreciated.

One question, is the activity monitor you mentioned something in the mac app store? for free? :rolleyes:
 
One question, is the activity monitor you mentioned something in the mac app store? for free? :rolleyes:

Even better! Activity Monitor is free and you already have it! This useful app resides in the /Applications/Utilities folder. If you wish, you can create icons for your Launchpad and desktop Dock areas. :apple:
 
Even better! Activity Monitor is free and you already have it! This useful app resides in the /Applications/Utilities folder. If you wish, you can create icons for your Launchpad and desktop Dock areas. :apple:

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:eek: You can do that?! :eek:

If you mean:

Can you buy Apple Care after the purchase?

Yes, you can buy it anytime within the first year (at least for Macs).

Can you get it from a 3rd party?

Sure! It's basically just a code number on a card in a box, you enter that and your serial (under your Apple ID) and instantly takes effect.

It's actually pretty cheap for a Mini direct from Apple at $99, but hey, it's even better at 1/2 off retail (and no tax). My Mini is a 2012 but it was a refurb bought a year ago - love this little machine, i7 quad core, 16GB, 512GB SSD with a 1TB HDD in the second bay :)
 
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Great information to know D.T.! I knew you could but it well after your initial Apple purchase, but did not know it could be from a third party seller. *strokes chin*
 
Great information to know D.T.! I knew you could but it well after your initial Apple purchase, but did not know it could be from a third party seller. *strokes chin*

Yep - some vendors, like B&H will sometimes do discounted/sale prices that are cheaper than education pricing. It's not a bad deal if you can get it. AppleCare+ for iOS devices is the odd exception - you have a small window to buy it and I think someone from Apple is supposed to look at your device (at least if you go to an Apple Store/AASP).

That being said, I picked up AppleCare for my 4th-gen Apple TV for $7 on eBay once - it was a 2011-era package, but the code still applied.
 
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Whoa! I can't believe they're in stock still! People either haven't noticed or Apple has a lot of them! I've been trying to nab a refurb 2012 quad for the past year without success. I even installed a couple tracker apps on my iPhone. Every time they come in stock they sell out in minutes or seconds even! Probably vendors/eBay scalpers buy them up?

Update 12:33pm: Out of stock!
 
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Needed to update my aging 2009 MBP for some mid-level photo editing. Pulled the trigger on a $580 refurb mini -- i5 2.6, 8GB, 1TB internal. I guess I can hand an external SSD off the thunderbolt port, and run the OS from there???

I'm on a tight budget, so I hope I'm not hosing myself, but I figure the benchmarks says it's 2-3X faster than my 09 13" MBP, and if I can get 3 years out of it, I'd be happy. I would also think it can be repurposed or sold for not too much loss within a few years, if I find I can afford more.
 
This past Tuesday, I bought a 2012 Mac Mini from a small used/refurbished electronics store in Boston. It's the 2.3 GHz quad-core model, with a 1 TB hard drive, and the RAM maxed out to 16 GB! It only cost me $500, and included the power cord. So I also bought a Thunderbolt to DVI adapter, hooked up my 20" aluminum Apple Cinema Display to it, paired up my wireless Apple keyboard and mouse, copied my data from my 2009 MacBook onto it, and was all set! So far I'm not noticing that much of a difference when I just do Internet browsing, but running a virtual machine makes a noticeable improvement, along with when I rendered a video on Final Cut Pro X. And it leaves a smaller footprint on my desk, of course (compared to when I'd use my MacBook in "desktop" mode.)
 
Here it is. Brand new quad core Mac mini I got from the Apple Store for $679. :)

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Will that drive a 21:9 Ultrawide 34" monitor at 3440x1440. I think I read the one knock on the 2012 machine is the GPU is much weaker than the 2014.
 
Will that drive a 21:9 Ultrawide 34" monitor at 3440x1440. I think I read the one knock on the 2012 machine is the GPU is much weaker than the 2014.

Apparently it will according to this thread http://forums.macresource.com/read.php?1,1857847,1857847. Yes, the graphics are a little slower as they are one generation behind (Ivy Bridge vs. Haswell). The 2012 has the HD 4000 and the 2014 has the Iris 5100. Neither are that great, but either are sufficient for most every day uses. Here's a graph that shows the difference between them. The 2012 (3rd gen) and 2014 (4th gen) are both on the lower end of the spectrum.

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This table compares generations. Neither are anywhere close to Skylake.

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Here it is. Brand new quad core Mac mini I got from the Apple Store for $679. :)

Just added AppleCare. Expires in February 2019. Pretty amazing warranty expiration date for a 2012 mini. :)
 
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The late 2014 Mini has the Iris 6100, which is 2 generations ahead of the 2012 Mini's HD 4000.

Ah, if only that were true. :( Sadly, the 2014 Mini is using the Haswell generation of Intel chips, not the Broadwell generation; and, therefore, the "Intel Iris" graphics included in the mid- and high-end 2014 Minis is indeed Haswell's 5100, not Broadwell's 6100.
 
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Sorry guys in advance but tried reading and searching and not found my answer so had to post a question:-

I have just bought a Mac Mini with TWO separate hard drives (one ssd and one hdd) and I have also bought a WD 1TB external drive to do my Time Machine backups - so my question is:- How do I ensure that the WD drive and Time Machine will back up BOTH drives? and how do I set this up? Thanks in advance.
 
How do I ensure that the WD drive and Time Machine will back up BOTH drives? and how do I set this up?

By default, Time Machine will back up everything stored in your Mac's file system, so it will automatically pick up both drives (or any further external drives you may add). In fact, the only controls that TM provides is (1) the ability to select a drive for use as your TM backup, and (2) the ability to exclude specific files or folders from being backed up.

So all you really need to do is tell TM to use the WD drive as your backup drive, and you should be all set. :)
 
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