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serpico007

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Sep 18, 2017
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My first one was left outside my garage, no signature. They should require ID and signature for items like this, to force the drivers to do their jobs.

Unfortunately, these courier companies are so busy they will leave everything outside. Apple did ask for a signature for my Apple Watch S5, so I'm shocked they are not asking for the new Mac Pro.
 

DoofenshmirtzEI

macrumors 6502a
Mar 1, 2011
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Unfortunately, these courier companies are so busy they will leave everything outside. Apple did ask for a signature for my Apple Watch S5, so I'm shocked they are not asking for the new Mac Pro.
My ship notice from Apple said signature would be required, but the driver just dumped the 7,1 off and didn't want a signature even though I was right there at the door.
 

serpico007

macrumors 6502
Sep 18, 2017
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My ship notice from Apple said signature would be required, but the driver just dumped the 7,1 off and didn't want a signature even though I was right there at the door.

Every time I read a post like this about the Mac Pro, I'm just shocked. My wife ordered a Bowflex machine last year and the courier left the two enormous boxes in our driveway. Anyone could have backed up their truck with two guys and just take it. No signature either.
 

tpivette89

macrumors 6502a
Jan 1, 2018
536
294
Middletown, DE
According to Geekbench's CPU and Mac charts the E5 2667v2 should challenge a 2018 i7 Mini but the 2697 should just fall short of the base 2019 Mac Pro and 2017 iMac Pro.

I guess you're doing it for the fun of tinkering with Macs (or for collecting one of the best looking ones), but can there be another compelling reason to go for the trashcan? It has fairly limited and expensive storage options, is TB2 only and stuck with GPUs that never really impressed... if only it had two M.2 PCIe slots for storage and something like the MPX modules for the graphic card (admittedly difficult given the form factor).

I don't use my Macs to make money, instead they're for basic tasks and hobbyist photo/video editing. I love to collect and especially tinker with them. Getting the most out of each device, prolonging their lifespan, and the path it takes to get there is extremely fun for me.

That said, I'm particularly interested to see what kind of performance I can get out of this 6,1 using different CPUs. Since Apple priced the 7,1 pretty high for the base model, I suspect a lot of people are going to either hold on to their trashcans a little longer (if they have one), or if they have something else, see this computer as a cheaper option. Certain users don't want an AIO, and I believe this is a good alternative to a late 2018 Mini. The 8/10/12 core 6,1s will beat a i5 Mini in multi-core performance, while an 8-core will tie the i7, and the 10/12 core upgrades will beat it. Also, the RAM ceiling is higher than the Mini, the storage is upgradeable (using adapters and off the shelf NVMe blades), not to mention its graphics are better (even the D300s). Also, TB2 isn't all that much slower in real-world applications than TB3, and you can use a lot of the same external expansion boxes that you can with a Mini (although a TB2-TB3 adapter may be needed). Finally, the trashcan's cooling stands head and shoulders above the Mini's. It also helps that it's comparable price-wise.

The only unknown is how long Apple will support it with future OS releases. Hopefully it won't go the way the latest iteration of the PowerMac G5 did... being able to purchase one brand new in early 2006 only to have Snow Leopard come in 2009 and make it obsolete. The 6,1s CPUs are Ivy-Bridge Xeons... the same CPU family as all other 2012 Macs (except the 5,1), and they will probably fall off the supported list after Catalina. Time will tell what Apple will choose as its elimination reason with 10.16.
 
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fiatlux

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Dec 5, 2007
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The only unknown is how long Apple will support it with future OS releases.

That would be a significant concern indeed. MP6,1 designs are 7 years old already...

Still, I was really tempted to buy a 12-core MP6,1 with 48GB of RAM and 2TB of storage given all the seemingly hardware-related issues I experienced with my MP4,1 recently. Turns out I had a bad RAM module (which I should get replaced under lifetime warranty). Hopefully that was it and I can keep pushing this old mule a bit further.
 

iSquirrelu

macrumors member
Nov 9, 2012
45
10
Brisbane, Australia
I have just ordered my dream new 2019 Mac Pro with a 28 core CPU, Afterburner card, 32GB of ram (to be upgraded) 8TB of Storage. Two Radeon Pro Vega Duo with 2 x 32GB of HBM2 memory each. Also ordered are 2 x Pro Display XDR with Standard glass + two Pro stands. I also added a Promise J2i 8 TB Internal Storage & have purchased off Ebay another drive exactly the same which I will be configuring in Raid 0 (I think?).

I will be using the Mac Pro for Video and Photography work. TBH I am more excited about the Pro Display's.

I am unsure of how much Ram to add, I have narrowed the choice down to either 384GB of RDIMM's or 768 GB of LRDIMM's. I am undecided on the amount of ram to purchase.

I have been told delivery time is mid February.

I have managed to negotiate with my wife the use of the dining room table which has a thick glass top to be moved into my office. I work from home. My current desk is built with MDF and despite reinforcement it sags in the middle which with two screens is not going to work well. The only way I can be sure the surface is flat is to use glass or a granite top.

I am very excited and I was well looked after by Apple's business team who got me a good price.

I have organised for one on one training for Final Cut Pro so I can optimise my workflow correctly.

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nikster0029

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Jul 21, 2010
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I have just ordered my dream new 2019 Mac Pro with a 28 core CPU, Afterburner card, 32GB of ram (to be upgraded) 8TB of Storage. Two Radeon Pro Vega Duo with 2 x 32GB of HBM2 memory each. Also ordered are 2 x Pro Display XDR with Standard glass + two Pro stands. I also added a Promise J2i 8 TB Internal Storage & have purchased off Ebay another drive exactly the same which I will be configuring in Raid 0 (I think?).

I will be using the Mac Pro for Video and Photography work. TBH I am more excited about the Pro Display's.

I am unsure of how much Ram to add, I have narrowed the choice down to either 384GB of RDIMM's or 768 GB of LRDIMM's. I am undecided on the amount of ram to purchase.

I have been told delivery time is mid February.

I have managed to negotiate with my wife the use of the dining room table which has a thick glass top to be moved into my office. I work from home. My current desk is built with MDF and despite reinforcement it sags in the middle which with two screens is not going to work well. The only way I can be sure the surface is flat is to use glass or a granite top.

I am very excited and I was well looked after by Apple's business team who got me a good price.

I have organised for one on one training for Final Cut Pro so I can optimise my workflow correctly.

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Can’t wait to see it!
 

bob_stan

macrumors regular
Oct 6, 2019
159
93
Central New York
I use the J2i in the same configuration as Raid0. The speed is slow compared to an SSD, but it is adequate for my purpose, which is used for TM backups and a large scratch disk.
 

daveedjackson

macrumors 6502
Aug 6, 2009
401
262
London
I have just ordered my dream new 2019 Mac Pro with a 28 core CPU, Afterburner card, 32GB of ram (to be upgraded) 8TB of Storage. Two Radeon Pro Vega Duo with 2 x 32GB of HBM2 memory each. Also ordered are 2 x Pro Display XDR with Standard glass + two Pro stands. I also added a Promise J2i 8 TB Internal Storage & have purchased off Ebay another drive exactly the same which I will be configuring in Raid 0 (I think?).

I will be using the Mac Pro for Video and Photography work. TBH I am more excited about the Pro Display's.

I am unsure of how much Ram to add, I have narrowed the choice down to either 384GB of RDIMM's or 768 GB of LRDIMM's. I am undecided on the amount of ram to purchase.

I have been told delivery time is mid February.

I have managed to negotiate with my wife the use of the dining room table which has a thick glass top to be moved into my office. I work from home. My current desk is built with MDF and despite reinforcement it sags in the middle which with two screens is not going to work well. The only way I can be sure the surface is flat is to use glass or a granite top.

I am very excited and I was well looked after by Apple's business team who got me a good price.

I have organised for one on one training for Final Cut Pro so I can optimise my workflow correctly.

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Eek, I hate to burst the bubble, but no video work or Photography is going to utilise 2 pro vegas. Obviously your 28 cards will be used by FCPx but not premiere or any of the adobe applications. Nor with the GPU's. Not yet anyway.
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Has anyone else noticed this... I walk past the system, switch it on and go make coffee. When I come back it's off. Does it have some kinda of energy/effiency setting which Is saying "he's not logged in, so I'll switch off"?
 

iSquirrelu

macrumors member
Nov 9, 2012
45
10
Brisbane, Australia
I just received both Display Pro XDR's but not the Mac Pro yet. I have got one Display Pro XDR working with my iMac Pro using the Blackmagic Pro - but there is something major wrong with the brightness and colours, I have tried using different colour profiles which make the screen too dark to wreathe only ones that work acceptably are the P3-500 nits and the P3-1600 nits - which are both the same brightness???

Does anyone have any idea what is going on here?

I have the XDR set to max brightness and TrueTone turned off. The colours are all washed out.

Thanks,
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pixelatedscraps

macrumors 6502
Jul 11, 2017
288
190
Hong Kong
Currently looking for a good condition, used Mac Pro 6,1 trashcan to use as an HTPC connected to our home media server. I've always loved the design, just not the practicality of it in a studio environment (and have stuck with a mixture of 10 year old Mac Pro 5,1 units, a 2 year journey with an iMac Pro which is coming to an end (great display, just not for serious photography work) and an assortment of MacBook Pros connected to external monitors when in the studio).

I see this seated to one side of our 55" Samsung smart 4K TV (one eye on a possible upgrade to an Optoma P1), next to a pair of KEF LSX (Michael Young green) and flanked on the opposite side by a Sonos Play 5 for music.

Eagerly waiting for good news from the Marketplace or the 'Bay in the meantime. I've got my eye on a basic, high clock speed quad core with 16GB RAM, 256GB SSD and a pair of D300 - which should be more than enough for my needs. I love tinkering with old Macs in my spare time so this is a new project for me while we're all working from home.

Very much in admiration for the trashcan, but not in a professional capacity. I've got my long-standing 5,1 for that and once we recover from Covid-19, a future 7,1 unit for the studio!
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Eek, I hate to burst the bubble, but no video work or Photography is going to utilise 2 pro vegas. Obviously your 28 cards will be used by FCPx but not premiere or any of the adobe applications. Nor with the GPU's. Not yet anyway.

It's best to buy when there is significant benefit to one's workflow but perhaps the OP is aware of the limitations, who knows?

That said, assuming one is using Adobe, the entire CC suite is completely throttled and hand-tied with multicore, multi-GPU setups in MacOS (not sure about Windows but presumably so). FCPX seems to be the only program out now that takes real advantage (and shows that advantage in benchmarks) of anything higher than the RX 580, Afterburner and say, 64GB RAM - currently. As far as I'm aware, DaVinci Resolve and Capture One 20 also have yet to take full advantage of the sudden increase in MacOS hardware power.

I'm waiting for the day that all changes so I can get my own 7,1 as currently it would be completely wasted with my workflow: Capture One Pro, Adobe Lightroom & Photoshop CC.
 
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techwhiz

macrumors 65816
Feb 22, 2010
1,297
1,804
Northern Ca.
Currently looking for a good condition, used Mac Pro 6,1 trashcan to use as an HTPC connected to our home media server. I've always loved the design, just not the practicality of it in a studio environment (and have stuck with a mixture of 10 year old Mac Pro 5,1 units, a 2 year journey with an iMac Pro which is coming to an end (great display, just not for serious photography work) and an assortment of MacBook Pros connected to external monitors when in the studio).

I see this seated to one side of our 55" Samsung smart 4K TV (one eye on a possible upgrade to an Optoma P1), next to a pair of KEF LSX (Michael Young green) and flanked on the opposite side by a Sonos Play 5 for music.

Eagerly waiting for good news from the Marketplace or the 'Bay in the meantime. I've got my eye on a basic, high clock speed quad core with 16GB RAM, 256GB SSD and a pair of D300 - which should be more than enough for my needs. I love tinkering with old Macs in my spare time so this is a new project for me while we're all working from home.

Very much in admiration for the trashcan, but not in a professional capacity. I've got my long-standing 5,1 for that and once we recover from Covid-19, a future 7,1 unit for the studio!

I just picked up a trashcan with a two year Square Trade warranty for $1180. (16GB and 1TB storage)
I got a CPU upgrade to 8 cores for $150

So I think I go a screaming deal for a title more than $1300.

I also have a Pro Tools setup in a 2008 Mac Pro and I was not ready to upgrade the Mac Pro to a 2020 machine and HDX due to cost and not a lot of benefit.
So I'll run that setup headless in a rack and never update the OS.
 
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pixelatedscraps

macrumors 6502
Jul 11, 2017
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Hong Kong
I just picked up a trashcan with a two year Square Trade warranty for $1180. (16GB and 1TB storage)
I got a CPU upgrade to 8 cores for $150

So I think I go a screaming deal for a title more than $1300.

I just received a base model 6,1 (3.7Ghz 4-core, 16GB RAM, 256GB SSD, D300) in perfect condition with original box for $1,000. It's currently sitting next to my TV connected to a QNAP TS-451A with 16TB of media. Pretty happy so far, for my needs it should be good enough, especially since switching to MPV from VLC for playback without artefacts.
 

foonon

macrumors member
Aug 4, 2007
81
19
I ordered one of the Refurb 2019 Mac Pros that Apple made available this morning (spec below). Yesterday I ordered a new 12-core configuration, but the extra memory and storage for only ~$300 more was too tasty to resist, so I cancelled that and got the refurbished one. Also, it will be here on April 15. The original order was scheduled to be here on or just before April 27.

My 2009 cMP has been my main rig for over 10 years now. It's still a wonderful system, but it is time to move on.

Can't wait to migrate!

~f
 

Flint Ironstag

macrumors 65816
Dec 1, 2013
1,334
744
Houston, TX USA
I just received a base model 6,1 (3.7Ghz 4-core, 16GB RAM, 256GB SSD, D300) in perfect condition with original box for $1,000. It's currently sitting next to my TV connected to a QNAP TS-451A with 16TB of media. Pretty happy so far, for my needs it should be good enough, especially since switching to MPV from VLC for playback without artefacts.
They make a killer Plex server, and TB2 storage is still decent performance.
 

MisterAndrew

macrumors 68030
Sep 15, 2015
2,895
2,390
Portland, Ore.
I ordered one of the Refurb 2019 Mac Pros that Apple made available this morning (spec below). Yesterday I ordered a new 12-core configuration, but the extra memory and storage for only ~$300 more was too tasty to resist, so I cancelled that and got the refurbished one. Also, it will be here on April 15. The original order was scheduled to be here on or just before April 27.

My 2009 cMP has been my main rig for over 10 years now. It's still a wonderful system, but it is time to move on.

Can't wait to migrate!

~f

That's the exact one I was eyeing. I had it in my shopping basket. Now it's sold out.
 

SayCheese

macrumors 68000
Jun 14, 2007
1,720
919
Oxfordshire, England
I ordered a new 7,1 on Wednesday this week and at the same time I ordered the Pegasus J2i.
The J2i arrived today which is obviously useless without the Mac Pro itself.

The Mac Pro is estimated for delivery at the end of the month. Anyone know if it's likely to be earlier than that? I've gone for the base model with no Apple upgrades. For some reason I thought they might have those in stock so it'd be quicker to deliver.

***EDITED TO ADD***

I've just had a shipping notification to say it's been dispatched by DHL to arrive a week today. Apparently the shipping notification is from The Netherlands. If it's there it's a 45 minute flight to the UK. Not sure why it's going to take a week on that basis!
 
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gazzared

macrumors newbie
Aug 28, 2007
29
3
I ordered a new 7,1 on Wednesday this week and at the same time I ordered the Pegasus J2i.
The J2i arrived today which is obviously useless without the Mac Pro itself.

The Mac Pro is estimated for delivery at the end of the month. Anyone know if it's likely to be earlier than that? I've gone for the base model with no Apple upgrades. For some reason I thought they might have those in stock so it'd be quicker to deliver.

***EDITED TO ADD***

I've just had a shipping notification to say it's been dispatched by DHL to arrive a week today. Apparently the shipping notification is from The Netherlands. If it's there it's a 45 minute flight to the UK. Not sure why it's going to take a week on that basis!
I’m assuming customs clearance? also Covid-19 is impacting on flights believe it or not ?
 

1985dan

macrumors newbie
Mar 29, 2020
9
0
Hi everyone I got a free Mac Pro 2,1 with no hard drive and no graphics card which I intend to restore, but I want to check that it will function well before spending money in a hard drive, a GPU and more RAM. I plugged it in and the Superdrive works, the RAM trays lights turn on, the motherboard diagnostic lights all light up except the CPU failure ones and the last one to the right that says EFI, and the fans seem to work properly according to the current room temperature. However, the ports don't seem to work properly: my phone doesn't charge in any of the 5 USB ports, so I tried plugging a pen drive to see if the light turns on, but it only does so for one second and then it turns off (edit: I plugged the SATA port from the front panel in one of the 2 free SATA exapansion ports and the front USB ports get enough power to turn on the light of a pen drive and charge headphones, but not my phone, and the back ports only turn on the pen drive light for one second and then it turns off). I don't have any firewire device to check if it's just the USB ports or every port. I already tried more than 10 SMC resets from the motherboard button and it is still the same. Any ideas? What else should I check to see if it works properly before sinking any money into it? I would really appreciate if you answer. Thank you for reading.
 

fuchsdh

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Jun 19, 2014
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Hi everyone I got a free Mac Pro 2,1 with no hard drive and no graphics card which I intend to restore, but I want to check that it will function well before spending money in a hard drive, a GPU and more RAM. I plugged it in and the Superdrive works, the RAM trays lights turn on, the motherboard diagnostic lights all light up except the CPU failure ones and the last one to the right that says EFI, and the fans seem to work properly according to the current room temperature. However, the ports don't seem to work properly: my phone doesn't charge in any of the 5 USB ports, so I tried plugging a pen drive to see if the light turns on, but it only does so for one second and then it turns off (edit: I plugged the SATA port from the front panel in one of the 2 free SATA exapansion ports and the front USB ports get enough power to turn on the light of a pen drive and charge headphones, but not my phone, and the back ports only turn on the pen drive light for one second and then it turns off). I don't have any firewire device to check if it's just the USB ports or every port. I already tried more than 10 SMC resets from the motherboard button and it is still the same. Any ideas? What else should I check to see if it works properly before sinking any money into it? I would really appreciate if you answer. Thank you for reading.

Realistically a 2,1 isn't worth much added money into it, so it might not really be worth it if there's already potential issues.
 

pixelatedscraps

macrumors 6502
Jul 11, 2017
288
190
Hong Kong
I just received a base model 6,1 (3.7Ghz 4-core, 16GB RAM, 256GB SSD, D300) in perfect condition with original box for $1,000. It's currently sitting next to my TV connected to a QNAP TS-451A with 16TB of media. Pretty happy so far, for my needs it should be good enough, especially since switching to MPV from VLC for playback without artefacts.

Update: I just scored a 3.3Ghz 8-core E5-2667 v2 off eBay for $99.95. Can't wait...
 
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