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The iMac is getting Conroe.
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Assuming that memron and conroe hardware are not interchangeable; it is safe to say the iMac will be Memron based in the future; it has had essentially the same hardware as the powerbook/MBP machines for quite some time.
Merom is a laptop chip. Conroe is a desktop chip. Woodcrest is a Server chip.
Woodcrest is going in the Mac Pro, because the towers have always had the same CPU as the servers. That puts Conroe in the iMac, and yes, they will put in a new motherboard. They want their computers to be fast, and good, they will do what it takes. They're not gonna put a laptop CPU in their desktop machine.
Woodcrest is going in the Mac Pro, because the towers have always had the same CPU as the servers. That puts Conroe in the iMac, and yes, they will put in a new motherboard. They want their computers to be fast, and good, they will do what it takes. They're not gonna put a laptop CPU in their desktop machine.
macgeek2005 said:
Again, the Universe told me the iMacs would get Memrom and Universe > than your idle speculation.
milo said:
Well, meroms are going to be 20% faster than the current core duos at equal clockspeeds.... so conroes might be even faster...
Let's say for fun that conroes are only 25% faster than yonahs.
2.66 Ghz conroe = 3.55 Ghz yonah = 2x 1.77
But in all actuality, the conroes could be 30% faster speed at equal clockspeeds.
2.66 Ghz conroe = 3.8 Ghz yonah = 2x 1.9
So a 2.66 ghz conroe they could easily be as much as 2 times faster than a 1.9 Ghz yonah. The 17inch iMacs only run at 1.83 ghz........
SheriffParker said:Well, meroms are going to be 20% faster than the current core duos at equal clockspeeds.... so conroes might be even faster...
Let's say for fun that conroes are only 25% faster than yonahs.
2.66 Ghz conroe = 3.55 Ghz yonah = 2x 1.77
But in all actuality, the conroes could be 30% faster speed at equal clockspeeds.
2.66 Ghz conroe = 3.8 Ghz yonah = 2x 1.9
So a 2.66 ghz conroe they could easily be as much as 2 times faster than a 1.9 Ghz yonah. The 17inch iMacs only run at 1.83 ghz........
You're catching on.
macgeek2005 said:
Except a 30% increase is very, very unlikely since Intel's promotional materials has the Conroe at 40% faster than the current desktop chips.
macgeek2005, I distinctly remember you saying that you "knew" that the macbooks would start at $1099 for a core solo at 1.5 Ghz. So you'll pardon me if I take this with a big grain of salt unless and until you give us a lot more information than "my uncle said so."
SheriffParker said:Well, meroms are going to be 20% faster than the current core duos at equal clockspeeds.... so conroes might be even faster...
Let's say for fun that conroes are only 25% faster than yonahs.
2.66 Ghz conroe = 3.55 Ghz yonah = 2x 1.77
But in all actuality, the conroes could be 30% faster speed at equal clockspeeds.
2.66 Ghz conroe = 3.8 Ghz yonah = 2x 1.9
So a 2.66 ghz conroe they could easily be as much as 2 times faster than a 1.9 Ghz yonah. The 17inch iMacs only run at 1.83 ghz........
Those maths aren't really correct in the real world. A 2.2GHz model wouldn't be 10% faster than a 2GHz model in the real world.
QCassidy352 said:
My uncle wanted to have me pleasantly surprised, that's why he told me they were starting at core solo 1.5. But the price was right.
So if anything, the iMacs will be better than what I say they'll be.
macgeek2005 said:
So if I understand you correctly, you have a source who knows what is coming, but he sometimes deliberately lies to you. Sounds like quite a source.
As for the price being right, it was a foregone conclusion that it would either be $999, like the ibook G4, or $100 more (because the mac mini got a similar price bump). I mean come on, everyone on this site was predicting either $999 or $1099 based on nothing but logic.
No offense, but as I said, I'll believe it when I see it. Every new product release this site fills with people who have "sources" that "know" what is coming, yet I can count on one hand, with a few fingers to spare, the number of times a poster has been spot-on (a certain emac prediction comes to mind).
I believe that the first gen ones are 800 and the second gen are 1066. Don't quote me on that though.bbrosemer said:
vniow said:
I told one of the demi-gods what Leopard will bring us, I guess it wasn't you, I don't remember which one it was.
In the real world, people will not be able to tell the difference between Yonah and Conroe or Merom. They just wont.
Not everyone who buys a mac researches what chip is in their computer, nor will they come on here to talk about it. Yeah, so Steve Jobs will say that they are now even FASTER than before, so people will buy them. Then we will have a placebo effect where people actually think that they see a performance increase when they really dont.
Benchmarks will show that the Meroms and Conroes actually do shave seconds off rendering or encoding, but benchmarks really dont mean a thing except proving that one is faster than another. In perception, in the real world, they wont, and dont, matter all that much. Besides, how many people actually use their macs to their potential? Not many. Sure, a lot of graphic designers will dig the new speed and buy rev. A Power Macs, but it wont matter that much. It never does. If you want an iMac, buy now, its a great time to buy them. If you wait, youll be waiting for a long time.
Not everyone who buys a mac researches what chip is in their computer, nor will they come on here to talk about it. Yeah, so Steve Jobs will say that they are now even FASTER than before, so people will buy them. Then we will have a placebo effect where people actually think that they see a performance increase when they really dont.
Benchmarks will show that the Meroms and Conroes actually do shave seconds off rendering or encoding, but benchmarks really dont mean a thing except proving that one is faster than another. In perception, in the real world, they wont, and dont, matter all that much. Besides, how many people actually use their macs to their potential? Not many. Sure, a lot of graphic designers will dig the new speed and buy rev. A Power Macs, but it wont matter that much. It never does. If you want an iMac, buy now, its a great time to buy them. If you wait, youll be waiting for a long time.
Nar1117 said:
WOW, AMAZING. I'm going to tell this to my brother who keeps insisting how much faster his iMac is than my G4 tower. You're absolutely right. It shaves a few seconds off rendering and such, but in the real world, we both use our computers and they both do things at great speeds.