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You know Apple are in the business of making money. I don't know if the iPad will be a big success, I just know that I plan to buy one. But the sort of tablet that you are suggesting that they make have pretty much been a failure. Why would Apple emulate that?

Agreed. The iPad is far from perfect, but at the same time it is far better than the existing alternatives for a variety of everyday tasks. I will also be getting one.
 
And if it's "only" a big iPod Touch, that will be more than enough for a ton of people. Dismissing the capabilities and potential prematurely would be a mistake I think.

I am not dismissing it.

How is it any different from a large iPod touch with some new content (iBooks, differently formatted apps, etc.)?
 
I am not dismissing it, but it is a large iPod Touch.

That's my point. A large iPod Touch is something I expect to be a success. And then when you add all the possibilities that go with a 10" touchscreen, it's pretty amazing.

When someone else does it as well as Apple, I'll be glad to check it out.
 
Probably because you use the word "just", implying a negative connotation. I must have mis-read your intent. :)

I said just in the sense that its not a brand new product offering some new and unique functionality that can't be had on an iTouch, albeit with a smaller screen. iWork aside that is. Perhaps you are getting a little sensitive.
 
I said just in the sense that its not a brand new product offering some new and unique functionality that can't be had on an iTouch, albeit with a smaller screen. iWork aside that is. Perhaps you are getting a little sensitive.

I think some people may be underestimating the value in the larger screen when it comes to the design of the user interactions. A larger surface gives more room for parallel content (such as seeing a whole page when editing only part) and more expressive, and natural, gestures. I suspect, although we'll never know, that it was the design of the interaction model that took most of the time and effort on the project. From my experience, it is far from trivial to design flowing conventions for even single applications, let alone establishing the informative conventions for an entire device.

The most important part of software design, in my opinion at least, isn't the code itself; it is designing something that delivers value for its users without imposing additional costs. Once you have conceived of a good user experience, the code is often just a formalised expression of that experience and nearly writes itself. (Note, I am not asserting that the user experience of the iPad is good, nor that it is bad, merely that the process of coming up with even a passable one is harder work than some seem to think).
 
I said just in the sense that its not a brand new product offering some new and unique functionality that can't be had on an iTouch, albeit with a smaller screen. iWork aside that is. Perhaps you are getting a little sensitive.

I just think some people are quick to dismiss how different the experience of using a 10" touchscreen on an iPad will be. I think the jump from an iPhone/Touch to the iPad will be huge for most people. I have yet to read about someone actually holding one and saying it wasn't that cool. Anyone who did has been impressed.

There are also a lot of people acting like there are several competitive products that do the same thing currently available, when that is clearly not the case. Apple does deliver a unique user experience.
 
if its not a tablet, why would steve jobs put up a slide that says "the last time a tablet was this anticipated, it had 10 commandments written on it"? this is a tablet in apples eyes, so it should be viewed like it is.
 
if its not a tablet, why would steve jobs put up a slide that says "the last time a tablet was this anticipated, it had 10 commandments written on it"? this is a tablet in apples eyes, so it should be viewed like it is.
That was a quote that was written before the announcement and was based on the speculation it would be a tablet.
 
That was a quote that was written before the announcement and was based on the speculation it would be a tablet.

yeah, but steve made a slide about and made a point to highlight it. If he didnt see it as a tablet, wouldnt he have just left that part out?
 
If it acts like a tablet, looks like a tablet, and weighs and feels, displays books like a tablet, then it must be a tablet. JMHO. :D
 
Well, I'm certain that the iPad will be a success even without a stylus, but I would like a stylus option. It would be best to not make it a requirement, as that would turn off several iPod touch and iPhone users, but I would like a stylus option. I can confidently state that artists (including myself) would certainly use it quite often, especially if Apple released a 1st-party digital art tool for it (Doodlebuddy can only do so much :p ).
 
Well, I'm certain that the iPad will be a success even without a stylus, but I would like a stylus option. It would be best to not make it a requirement, as that would turn off several iPod touch and iPhone users, but I would like a stylus option. I can confidently state that artists (including myself) would certainly use it quite often, especially if Apple released a 1st-party digital art tool for it (Doodlebuddy can only do so much :p ).

There's always the POGO. :D
 
As someone who has owned several PC tablets, I'm looking forward to getting the iPad. Personally, I hate using a stylus, and I've found the overall experience of previous tablets to be a bit clunky and inelegant.

For what I need to do, I can replace my laptop with the iPad. I can't wait.

+ The US National debt.
 
There are stylus' available for the iphone. I presume they will work on this thing also. In any event, I know I won't be buying one until I can get a stylus for it and run good note taking / drawing software.
 
There are stylus' available for the iphone. I presume they will work on this thing also. In any event, I know I won't be buying one until I can get a stylus for it and run good note taking / drawing software.

This.


The iPad looks really cool, but as a student, I can't justify getting one. I have an iPhone already and it's basically that without a phone. I know, it has a large, great screen and that's really nice, but how can it help me in situations my normal laptop can't? I can't take notes on it in class that I couldn't take with a laptop before. I want to handwrite notes. I want multi-tasking so I can have a PDF document (or a textbook!) open in one program and switch to note-writing in another (such as homework assignments). I want handwriting recognition to make my notes searchable. These are the features every college student in the country is waiting for and will pay to get.

About your stylus comment: Yes, they have styli for iPhones, but using it on an iPad would probably not work because there would be too much incidental contact with your palm and wrist on the lower part of the screen.
 
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