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secretk

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While I agree hell my first apple product is Ipad Pro 11 2018 and I owned a Galaxy s8 now a Iphone X, The files app is the worst thing about ios and ipados, its complete trash I hope IOS 14 changes something with this especially also. for Iphone X I get there is a notch but couldn't they put the battery percentage in the battery symbol instead of no battery percentage like come on Apple its not that hard I have seen people do it on jailbroken iphones. Also the share system is so closed lets say I want to go to photos app and see a Icloud photo if I hit share only a few apps can see it; but not Photo editing apps, you have to go in the app and select the photo yikes.

What I want from Apple
1. Widgets
2. Ability to move my Folders on Home screen to the bottom to keep my home screen clear. (I don't like all my apps on different pages)
3. Files App remake at least improve on transferring no more 4.29gb limitation which causes videos to be corrupted randomly.
4. Have swipe up on dock to show all APPs
5. Ability to add more than 4 apps on Dock for iphone
6. Battery Percentage to be inside the battery logo or at least tap top right to see battery percentage
7. Allow selection of default apps such as Browsers mainly
8. Option to allow apps to run on background already. Lets say for example I am rendering a hour long video on lumafusion, you are forced to either keep the app open fullscreen or splitscreen it on ipad. I just want it to render in the background so I can do other things while checking the progress on notification bar.
9. Option to allow swipe left to delete notification at least give me that option
10. WE HAVE OLED give us always on display. Look the one thing I miss the most is a LED light at least allow my phone to show notifications without wasting the battery on lighting up the full display just for a notification

I agree with all of them but man point 8 is what for me computer means. This is the difference between mobile device and a computer IMO. I rely on background tasks so much. I am used to doing things like that and for me that is normal workflow and what makes me efficient. I cannot sit and wait for one process to finish to start with the next one. I do not need to wait for a video to be exported to continue on say doing something in Notability. This is not how I work. I would naturally prioritize my backlog for the day in such fashion. As a former Developer I used every 10 to 15 minutes I was waiting for building and deploying to do something else.
 
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I agree with all of them but man point 8 is what for me computer means. This is the different between mobile device and a computer IMO. I rely on background tasks so much. I am used to doing things like that and for me that is normal workflow and what makes me efficient. I cannot sit and wait for one process to finish to start with the next one. I do not need to wait for a video to be exported to continue on say doing something in Notability. This is now how I work. I would naturally prioritize my backlog for the day in such fashion. As a former Developer I used every 10 to 15 minutes I was waiting for building and deploying to do something else.
point 8 is me trying to make my ipad a computer which apple keeps trying to state it is
 

ct2k7

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Aug 29, 2008
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And as a former Java Web Developer that have gone through tutorials for both Android and Swift I do not find Swift more intuitive. Swift sometimes offer too much options for the same thing which I do not like in general with programming languages (and some of those options make the code shorter but less understandable and readable). It is about preference.

Now Xcode does seem a bit better compared to Android Studio but both IDEs are rich enough.

I personally am not a fan of Swift, though it's a step up from Objective-C
 
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secretk

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I personally am not a fan of Swift, though it's a step up from Objective-C

I agree. Based on what I read objective-C is worse than Swift so yes Swift is an improvement. Which programming languages are you a fan of?
 

ct2k7

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I agree. Based on what I read objective-C is worse than Swift so yes Swift is an improvement. Which programming languages are you a fan of?

I dislike all the ones I work with equally, but I'm learning kotlin and I seem to like it
 

Royksöpp

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I've loved Apple ever since I was little kid. The first computer I learned how to use was a Macintosh after all! Growing up my family could barely afford a PC let alone a Mac. When I got older and started working I finally got my first Mac. I'll NEVER go back to Windows EVER. I believe that the Apple Eco System is the best it has ever been.
 

Milellie111

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So if I found out that Apple works best for me years and years and years ago, and I exclusively use Apple now, does that make me a fanboy? :) But anyways, how much experience with other brands should one have to be able to judge what works best for you? In the end, people make choices and form relationships with their tools and brands of choice. So should one waste time looking at other solutions once you have found a brand or platform that works for you? Being loyal to a brand isn't a bad thing if that brand gives you a lot of value. Sure, you can test out other things once you can't find something suitable (based on needs or price) within your brand of choice. In that way, yes, one should not be close minded. But if a brand gives you most or everything you want, that kind brand loyalty towards Apple, Google, or Microsoft shouldn't be regarded as something awful. It can be deserved.

Also, one could have had bad past experiences. These experiences form deep emotional scars, and you can't blame someone from disliking a brand based on those experiences. Eventually, a good experience that follows creates loyalty. That is how things work. Now if I'm simply hating on Apple or Microsoft or Google for no good reason, yes that would be very small minded.

Finally, if someone asks me if I'm open to using Windows or Android, and if I say no, that doesn't mean I'm an Apple fanboy or close minded. It means I have a preference and I made a choice. Am I open to the idea that other platforms can give better experiences? Sure. But if my needs are met, I simply don't feel the need to try out. So I'm okay if there are Windows and Android users out there who feel the same. (But if you have a crappy Windows or Android experience, or can't find what you're looking for on those platforms, please feel free to join the Apple family. ;))

I never called the OP a fanboy. He outright called himself one in his thread title. I just said that being a fanboy is being close minded.

If you’ve found a platform that works best for you and stuck with it, to me that’s not being a fanboy. Like I said in my reply, all platforms have their pluses and minuses, find which one works for you.

No experience with any material device should be causing “deep emotional scars”. If it doesn’t work out for you, sell it, junk it and move on with life. However, things change. One manufacturer who’s on top providing the best quality at one time may now be at the bottom while others who were once terrible have now surpassed them. Saying “I will never own another XXXX” basically means you can predict the future. Years ago, pretty sure many said “I will never own another Hyundai”. Now look at the brand.

To me, a fanboy is someone who not just only sticks to a brand, but who refuses to believe there is anything else better out there, refuses to try anything else, and believes the product they are loyal to is the greatest ever. A fanboy even tries to convince others that their product is the best thing for them, even going further by engaging in smear campaigns against competing products without any real basis or facts.

I left Android platform years ago for phones and tablets because I felt Apple devices offered the smoothest user experience and less bugs. However, I am not anti Android. Just because I am for Apple doesn’t mean that I am against other platforms. I can accept the fact that some Android devices have strengths over Apple devices and so on, IOS has bugs like all other platforms and Apple has been plagued with things such as poor battery life, bending devices etc.
 

Techwatcher

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Sep 21, 2013
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Granted I'll still use custom built Windows computers because I like to game and do 3D modeling, and Android is absolutely great on smartphones and allows me to spend less on one, but Apple's entry level SE performs better than all of them right now. And for an artist like me, the iPad Pro is stunning.

Just sharing my 2¢, and am wondering if anyone had similar experiences.

My workflow is actually my custom built Windows desktop (main computer) + iPad Pro (main mobile computer) and it works fantastically so I agree with you there. Coding, music production, and gaming is done on the desktop while I also do some of that on the iPad Pro including everything else. And with rumors of Xcode coming to iPad Pro there's even more reason to be excited.

The iPad Pro really is stunning. I recommend anyone that has yet to own an iPad Pro purchase 3rd or 4th gen right now.
 

wry

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Why wait and not buy online now? You can return it when stores reopen.
I wanted to visit the University Village store in Seattle because I heard it's godly.

Also I've been debating whether I should settle for the 2018 or 2020 model, I'm worrying about how soon they'll go obsolete and whether the increased RAM and processing speed will make a difference in art and programming on Xcode which is rumored to be coming in iPadOS 14.
 

sparksd

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Jun 7, 2015
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I wanted to visit the University Village store in Seattle because I heard it's godly.

Also I've been debating whether I should settle for the 2018 or 2020 model, I'm worrying about how soon they'll go obsolete and whether the increased RAM and processing speed will make a difference in art and programming on Xcode which is rumored to be coming in iPadOS 14.

Don't know that it's godly but the new store there is really nice (it's my closest one here in Seattle).
 

madrigal77

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Aug 2, 2018
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Once the Apple stores reopen where I like I think I'm gonna get a 256GB 12.9" 2020 Pro, looks really nice
That’s exactly what I got, but I got it at Costco. No need to wait until the Apple store opens.
 
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