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Other The iPhone Air is the Appetizer....
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Much less daily battery life
Earlier and faster degradation of the aleady much lower battery capacity
only one lens instead of two
slightly smaller screen IIRC
Comes with the new developed C1-modem-chip of apple instead of the (at least currently) superior Qualcomm modem chip
IMHO much higher risk to crack or to be bent because thinner than the PLUS...
and so on...
My guess is that since the Air seems to be "Who is this phone for?" kind of phone for many here, then it's going to sell like crazy. 
Seeing as the 12/13 minis were praised to the heavens here and were an utter flop commercially.
And saying this with all the appreciation for this forum. 👍
.. and yeah, deffo looking forward to the Air. Thin and light + 120hz? Sold me right there already. As a regular Joe phone user, I've never given battery life any thought. It's always been fine for any phone I've had. Even the 14 Pro that I have at less than 80% capacity is quite fine for the day when charged during the night.
Seeing as the 12/13 minis were praised to the heavens here and were an utter flop commercially.
And saying this with all the appreciation for this forum. 👍
.. and yeah, deffo looking forward to the Air. Thin and light + 120hz? Sold me right there already. As a regular Joe phone user, I've never given battery life any thought. It's always been fine for any phone I've had. Even the 14 Pro that I have at less than 80% capacity is quite fine for the day when charged during the night.
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I totally get what you mean. The iPhone 16 Pro Max is great, but it feels too heavy. A lighter iPhone Air sounds like a nice change, even if it means giving up a few features. And yes, I’m also really looking forward to the folding iPhone can’t wait to see what Apple does with it!
I have read all six pages of this thread and it is interesting to see different people's views.
Anyone old enough to remember the Newton?
I remember thinking that the ideas were great but the implimentation was terrible. My best friend Adam bought one and I watched him using it and decided not to buy one.
I presently own a 15 pro with 512gb.
For nine months of the year I use it for work calls, and work emails and reading attachments while moving around. I also read paperback books and Apple + news on my 35 minute London underground commute to the office. I have never bought a kindle, although I see plenty amongst my fellow tube users. I have seen fewer than 10 folding phones of any brand while commuting. Most people when I commute hold Iphones and not other brands (other brands are maybe a 25% minority at the times of day that I commute).
I am 175cm tall and weigh 74kg so I am pretty small by modern standards but I hold my Iphone in one hand. I text and write emails with my thumb as I have an app called Gboard so my thumb just swipes across keys without tapping and the phone realises the words that I am swiping. It seems pretty accurate. Maybe my hands and wrists are slightly stronger than the average person (former rock climber).
During winter I go to the Alps and ski (a lot). During that period my Iphone takes many photographs and quite a lot of video.
If I only commuted and read documents the folding phone might have been of interest to me. Maybe I will still consider one and invest in a camera for winter. But at the moment for me a slab phone is the best allround compromise and thus I hope that Apple will still make slab phones with good cameras for another decade.
Anyone old enough to remember the Newton?
I remember thinking that the ideas were great but the implimentation was terrible. My best friend Adam bought one and I watched him using it and decided not to buy one.
I presently own a 15 pro with 512gb.
For nine months of the year I use it for work calls, and work emails and reading attachments while moving around. I also read paperback books and Apple + news on my 35 minute London underground commute to the office. I have never bought a kindle, although I see plenty amongst my fellow tube users. I have seen fewer than 10 folding phones of any brand while commuting. Most people when I commute hold Iphones and not other brands (other brands are maybe a 25% minority at the times of day that I commute).
I am 175cm tall and weigh 74kg so I am pretty small by modern standards but I hold my Iphone in one hand. I text and write emails with my thumb as I have an app called Gboard so my thumb just swipes across keys without tapping and the phone realises the words that I am swiping. It seems pretty accurate. Maybe my hands and wrists are slightly stronger than the average person (former rock climber).
During winter I go to the Alps and ski (a lot). During that period my Iphone takes many photographs and quite a lot of video.
If I only commuted and read documents the folding phone might have been of interest to me. Maybe I will still consider one and invest in a camera for winter. But at the moment for me a slab phone is the best allround compromise and thus I hope that Apple will still make slab phones with good cameras for another decade.
Certainly waiting for the foldable iPhone. Will tick all the boxes and replace my iPad mini for a 2 in 1 device
Actually I like the weight and feel of the 16 pro Max. I have huge hands. Would probably have been the 17 pro max if it wasn’t for all this tariff ********. I don’t trust first gen of anything Apple, especially folding. The 16 pro is a good screen size.
My yesterdays posting about apple´s C1 modem chip has been correct, as it seems.... 😁
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Android Phones With Qualcomm Modems Top iPhone 16e in New 5G Test
A new Cellular Insights report commissioned by Qualcomm has found that two unnamed Android smartphone models equipped with Qualcomm's Snapdragon...
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What a surprise! A report by Qualcomm says Qualcomm products are better!My yesterdays posting about apple´s C1 modem chip has been correct, as it seems.... 😁
Android Phones With Qualcomm Modems Top iPhone 16e in New 5G Test
A new Cellular Insights report commissioned by Qualcomm has found that two unnamed Android smartphone models equipped with Qualcomm's Snapdragon...
The C1 may be inferior, there is anecdotal evidence that suggests it may very well be in some situations, but biased reports are biased!
I haven't seen any evidence of the C1 being broken either. There seem to be quite a few people happy with their 16e. Now that I've broken the screen on my 14, and am using a backup 11, I'd take a 16e in a heartbeat!
Never implied it was broken.. just not to the same quality level of someone that’s been making these chips for years. The M1 was honestly a surprise; I didn’t expect it to work as well as it did. That’s kind of a tough call, do you fix the screen or buy a used 14? 15’s are hard to come by because 16’s were kind of a disappointment. That’s why I’m surprised I bought one but the tariffs scared me off waiting for the 17. Do you put screen protectors on them? I have a case, a screen protector and lens protectors.
Fair enough. There have been 1st gen teething problems before, but I feel Apple does pretty well at them.
The irony of breaking my screen is that I always keep a screen protector on, but a few weeks previously the adhesive failed, and it peeled off, and I hadn't got around to replacing it yet! I certainly learned a lesson there...
I have been looking around, but second-hand prices for Apple products here are so high, you may as well just buy new. In all probability I will fix my 14 and use it another couple of years. My plan was always to keep it five years. As nice as a new phone would be, I will probably stick to my plan.
Also, in all fairness, a 16e or an as rumoured 17 Air are non-starters for me. If it doesn't have an ultra wide angle lens, it's a no-go.
The iPhone Air will be DOA. Too many tradeoffs for very few benefits. The only benefit, in fact, is that it's thinner and lighter. Those don't affect daily usage, though. One less camera, so photos won't be as versatile. Less battery life, so it will be annoying for some people to have to charge before bedtime. Even if the battery lasts a whole day in the beginning, it will degrade and last less than a whole day after 8-12 months.
The only reason they're making this iPhone Air is economies of scale. Many of the components will be used in the iPhone Fold in 1-2 years, so it's better to release the Air now and reduce the price of the components they'll use with the Fold later.
The only reason they're making this iPhone Air is economies of scale. Many of the components will be used in the iPhone Fold in 1-2 years, so it's better to release the Air now and reduce the price of the components they'll use with the Fold later.
Subjonas you’re coming across a little bit like an Apple apologist here. Fast refresh screens have been available on £150 Android phones for years. Apple use this standard feature shamelessly as a differentiator between regular £800 and pro £1000 iPhones, we all know they do this on MR.
Thinner + lighter = increased breakability. Who’ll buy a phone for its thinness and then put a case on it?
Attacking character isn’t a convincing
argument and is usually a sign that one has run out of arguments. But to respond, I don’t care about Apple at all. My relationship with all companies is purely transactional. I simply point out when I see statements that strike me as false or irrational or questionable.
There’s no rule that says every spec on an expensive phone has to be equal to or better than the corresponding spec on a cheap phone or else it’s devious. There can be trade offs in the different things that go into a phone, as long as the overall return is better on the expensive phone, to make it worth the price. Otherwise it would have bad value. But there’s even no rule that says a product has to have good value or else it’s a sham. A product can simply be a bad product/have poor value. You can say non-pro (non-high refresh) iPhones have poor value because value is complex and subjective, but you can’t make accusations about a company (or anyone) scheming, not without evidence, because scheming is defined and not subjective. And cheap Android phones having one superior spec is not evidence of a scheme; it’s only evidence of poor value for those who highly regard that spec.
It’s definitely thin enough to put some gorgeous cheese on if that makes it appetising, as a phone not so much though.