The iPhone's Greatest Weakness

[LenP]

The iPhone's REAL Weakness

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But I'm not worried, since I'll do most of that on my Mac with iCal.

 

[bloodycape]

I dont think the screen in the real weakness, the real weakness is going to be the battery life. Hey it maybe good battery life but, the fact that its not user replaceable and after 300-400 charges its going to need a replacement aint that good.

 

[72930]

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How do you know?

Walt said it was nice after a week, maybe you would love it after a minute's play. Maybe I have an advantage as I barely type on my phone so have no habits to lose...maybe it will be horrible...

 

[amd4me]

ROFLMAO It will probably get cheaper, the razr came out at $800

Yep it was 799 WITH a 2 year contract!

 

[grafikat]

The greatest weakness is the battery...send it back to apple if there's a problem? Blech!

On the price, folks over at PCWorld seem to think it's a great deal:

For instance, I have something called the PDAMax plan for my Treo 750; it's $55 a month. Lemme see here--if I were to dump the Treo for an iPhone, I'd save $35 a month...over the two-year contract, that'd be $840 in savings...which means that I could not only pay for an 8GB iPhone, but I'd have $240 left!

 

[pr5owner]

i've been scratching my head wondering why so many people are bitching about the price of this thing. I paid $450 for my treo 2 years ago (subsidized), and then last year paid $350 for my Q (after $100 rebate). The iPhone is not going to cost the same as a regular phone, it's a freakin smart phone.

i know apple is avoiding the term 'smart phone', but for all intents and comparisons...it's a smart phone. And smart phones cost a lot more than regular cell phones. The $599 price tag is steep, but not outrageous for a device like this.

no its not a smart phone, its just a regular phone with a touch screen, a Smartphone has 3rd party support, customization, business applications. Basically Smartphone’s have advanced configurations to suite your needs. The iPhone does not have the customization that S60 and WM5/6 phones have, not even close.

Yes the $600 price tag IS Steep when the HTC X7500 is free from T-MO-UK the X7500 puts the iphone to shame. Also HTC had the Universal out 2 years ago, the universal was HTC’s first 3G phone, dual video cams, VGA screen (640x480), 3.6” screen, full SD slot 4+GB capable, stereo speakers.

Remember, it's a video iPod, too. So, it's even worth more than the Nanos since the Nanos don't play widescreen video.

Subject the arbitrary cost of that when deciding the true value of the iPhone.

LOL yes only the Nano doesn’t play video, yet every mp3 player out there that’s CHEAPER does play videos. The Meizu M6 8GB is $150CDN Shipped with all accessories, Crystal hard case, silicone case, arm band and kick stand, how much does an 8GB ipod nano cost? $300CDN NO Accessories. The ipod cant do 1/15 the things the meizu can. The meizu sounds better too.

ROFLMAO It will probably get cheaper, the razr came out at $800

Yes but that was 3.5 years ago, technology back then wasn’t cheap, the razr was really thing with dual color LCD’s. just like laptops, the cheapest laptop you could get back then with crap features was around $1300, now? Laptops are $400-500 for the low end, and they aint that bad as most of them are able to run new OS’s like vista or ubuntu w/ beryl

#1. The phone as WiFi. Depending on who you are and where you spend most of your time, WiFi can be something thats readily available, almost always. You will spend A LOT of time on WiFi with your iPhone. EDGE will fill in nicely when not on wifi, such as out on the road. Its really not that slow, its just not as fast as 3G. Plus, I personally would rather have full coverage just about everywhere (EDGE) than be part of a service that is strong in some places and weak or non-existent in others (3 G).

#2. GPS. Clearly not needed. Google Maps with integrated functions for directions, turn by turn, with Traffic. You don't need GPS. If you don't know where you are to begin with... you're an idiot.

#1 you are paying for the data connection as it is a FORCED contract term, why do you have to live at edge speeds? When phones cheaper can get faster speeds? 3G is 3G, there is no compromise. The cheaper phones also have Wifi BG as well and they’ve had them WAY before the iphone was even announced, 3 years ago PDA phones had BG wifi (HTC Wizard and HTC Prophet)

#2 same as above, cheaper phones have GPS, how the hell is google maps going to tell you where you are when the phone doesn’t even know? It will not update in real time, it will not tell you turn by turn because it doesn’t know where you are, plain and simple. Google maps only works well with GPS period. If you look at the demo the guy has to keep hitting next, I thought you were supposed to be playing with your electronics while driving. This is called a Hazard waiting to happen. With my HTC phone, I hook the audio out into my cars headunit, and it will tell me where to turn (IE: in 200 meters turn left, drive 1.5 kms and turn right, in 100meters destination on the right)

If you travel to another city where you haven’t been before and you don’t know ever major street off by heart, does that make you an idiot? So what your saying is that you are an idiot because you don’t know every major road (let alone residential roads) in every major city (again, let alone smaller cities or towns)

Unlike other people, I do NOT believe that Apple is "holding back" anything

They are a business, the first goal of any business is to make a profit, they make a profit by giving the pubic only a fraction of what they want, then release another product with a little more so the first people upgrade, so on and so on, I guess you can call this forced return customers. Only now has any pda manufacturing company made a QWERTY slide out KB, GPS, VGA screen, fast CPU with 3.5G.

I don't see it as overpriced if it provides enough value. I remember buying a stupid Compaq Ipaq years back, hoping I had found the PDA I always wanted. But the ipaqs sucked in one way or another.

The iphone is the PDA I always wanted and dreamed of and it's so much more. For $599? That's cheap! They could charge $999 and I'd pay it as it will provide an immense amount of value to me and I can't wait to get one!

Not over priced? The TyTN which is more capable than the iphone is FREE with an 18mo contract from TMO, not even 24mom 18!!!!!!

Your comparing a pda from Compaq a couple years old to the iphone which isn’t even released yet? Right because that’s a proper comparison, BTW the ipaq’s now have GPS in them, does the iphone have that?
The iphone isn’t even a pda, it’s a phone with a touch screen, a REAL pda has the ability to install applications, stupid websites and browser plugins are not applications. Right now its look as though the iphone wont even be able to act as a Bluetooth modem. REAL PDA phones now are $300-500 unlocked unbranded, no contract, full accessories, shipped from online stores. Most of the pda phones exceed the iphone in almost every way. Phones that are 3 years old are on PAR with the iphone.

It is a free market, and it is called "capitalism". If you can't afford the iPhone, stick with second-rate cell phones instead.

Sure ill stick with my second rate 1.5yr old phone that can do this… (click on link below for rough comparison)

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/3737242/

My other concern is features, I would be prepared to pay around £400 for an iphone if it really did fulfill all my mobile needs, however I already have a HTC TYTN so my major concern is that the iphone won't have all the features that my TYTN does already, a good camera/video function plus built-in GPS and the ability to use it as a bluetooth modem for my macbook is want I need!

Going to the iphone is a huge step down from your current phone

Your phone is HSDPA capable, video call capable, you have hundreds of thousands of 3rd party apps avalible too you, you are not restricted in any form or fashion, you can upgrade to WM6 when it comes out, or just upgrade now with a custom rom. If you don’t have a Bluetooth function that you want, you can install the widcomm Bluetooth stack to ADD functionality, I highly doubt the iphone is capable of that. At this point its not even known that the iphone can do video recording at all, with my 2GB microsd that has 800MB in use, I can record 8 HOURS of MP4 video. Why would you pay £400 when the TyTN is FREE from TMO on an 18mo contract? Hell you can even get the X7500 free or the HTC trinity which is a TyTN without the KB.


BTW the iPhone is 480x320, some weird 3:2 resolution, this is different than your ipod video which is 320x240 (at least a standard 4:3 resolution) in reality an ipod video’s files are more compatible with Windows mobile phones than they are the iPhone. You have to convert all your videos or probably CROP them to make them fit the native resolution of the iPhone. There’s so many things wrong with the iPhone its almost not even worth looking at.

 

[pr5owner]

I dont think the screen in the real weakness, the real weakness is going to be the battery life. Hey it maybe good battery life but, the fact that its not user replaceable and after 300-400 charges its going to need a replacement aint that good.

actually according to some sources the battery is a PLUS! (imagine that)

apparently if you report your iphone stolen, ATT will send out a command to disable charging of the iphone, if the battery is not removeable, you cannot charge it externally, therefore iphone = hooped.

its dumb to steal a phone anyways since IMEIs can be blacklisted in mins rendering the phone totally useless anyways even if you can charge it.

i think the battery security feature isnt needed. i would much rather have a DOUBLE battery for the iphone rather than think about theives stealing it. at least i can enjoy it.

if the iphone had a double battery with the 8hrs stock rated talk time, you could have 16hrs talk time or 48hrs mp3 time. much better than having ATT disable your phone if you dont pay your bills (they probably wont but you know what im saying)