Probably just playing with one at the apple store doesn't give you the full picture. When you are using it with your daily workflows I'm sure you will be very impressed.
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The M1 Pro/Max MacBook Pro is the greatest laptop of all-time.
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Oh I won't be using it for work... personal use and getting old games to work. But I like the bigger laptops and Apple and my current MacBook Pro is from 2010 and still works. Apart from the battery and the fans are in the way out. I have no issue spending the money as Apple computers last! And using a full web browser on a computer is better then iOS I find. But I may also dabble in 3D animation with Cinema 4D.
One reputable place is offering 2 years interest free credit and a 2 year warranty hmm... tempting.
John Lewis in the U.K. you can't order custom build machines from them though. But they do the default Pro and Max configurations I've been looking at.
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Pithy reply, but the MBA mid-2012 laptop is the greatest (i7 8GB) MBA I have ever used, for all the reasons above.
The post 2015, loss of ports and keyboards and no magsafe put me off updating, and never kind of 'felt' like there was any compelling reason to throw away my self-upgraded SSD + Replacement Battery(ies) (aftermarket with higher mah), despite the promise of longer battery with those newer cpus.
So I am personally a bit meh that OS support ended for my favorite old friend, and am really hoping for the new MBA with new keyboard to become a replacement. Will just have to accept the Apple-Way on battery replacement, as long as that is still a thing that can happen for reasonable cost. Here's hoping.
But yeah, nice post, great to hear the MBP is an upgrade-compelling machine, roll on MBA 2022 - hopefully not mid-2022
The only other feature I might consider killer-feature upgrade-worthy was sidecar, so maybe that will convince me over the return of magsafe. Let's see, will advise.
The post 2015, loss of ports and keyboards and no magsafe put me off updating, and never kind of 'felt' like there was any compelling reason to throw away my self-upgraded SSD + Replacement Battery(ies) (aftermarket with higher mah), despite the promise of longer battery with those newer cpus.
So I am personally a bit meh that OS support ended for my favorite old friend, and am really hoping for the new MBA with new keyboard to become a replacement. Will just have to accept the Apple-Way on battery replacement, as long as that is still a thing that can happen for reasonable cost. Here's hoping.
But yeah, nice post, great to hear the MBP is an upgrade-compelling machine, roll on MBA 2022 - hopefully not mid-2022
The only other feature I might consider killer-feature upgrade-worthy was sidecar, so maybe that will convince me over the return of magsafe. Let's see, will advise.
The overall package is just awesome and unmatched at this point.
Some (few/expensive) laptops may overtrump the MBP at specific, isolated disciplines.
But having top-tier performance, thermals, battery, display, speakers, webcam/Mics, keyboard, trackpad, ports and overall build quality is just awesome. We lack serious gaming and some specific applications, but in return have the better OS without bloat/spyware, registry/dll-madness, malware and driver issues. Also, audio (latency) has always been a strong point, hence most DJs like me have Macbooks.
As the lack of CF had been criticized... seriously, it's just niche. Maybe convenient for some photographs, but SD cards have a much higher prevalence, just to list prosumer cams like my RX10, GoPros, drones, synthesizer, drum machines, DJ gear, game consoles, TVs/receivers and most other laptops as examples. You had to use a dongle anyway, so nothing changes for you. For all SD card users, we can now do without. Perfect.
Some (few/expensive) laptops may overtrump the MBP at specific, isolated disciplines.
But having top-tier performance, thermals, battery, display, speakers, webcam/Mics, keyboard, trackpad, ports and overall build quality is just awesome. We lack serious gaming and some specific applications, but in return have the better OS without bloat/spyware, registry/dll-madness, malware and driver issues. Also, audio (latency) has always been a strong point, hence most DJs like me have Macbooks.
As the lack of CF had been criticized... seriously, it's just niche. Maybe convenient for some photographs, but SD cards have a much higher prevalence, just to list prosumer cams like my RX10, GoPros, drones, synthesizer, drum machines, DJ gear, game consoles, TVs/receivers and most other laptops as examples. You had to use a dongle anyway, so nothing changes for you. For all SD card users, we can now do without. Perfect.
Performance per watt and screen. And the guy who came up with tapered edges in laptops to create illusion of thinner chassis should get a Nobel prize. Unbelievable how many think this thing is bulky.
I am speaking about mentioned points that are “top-tier” so why are you speaking about performance?
And as you can see I have M1 Max which I have paid more than 4000€ and I can still stay objective.
And I can confirmed that it is really bulky, heavy and it is not an illusion at all! I had previously Macbook Pro and Macbook Air 2018 and it was really thin in comparison with M1Pro/Max.
But as I wrote before I do not care about bulkiness because it is the price of better cooling and more performance.
I think people should stay on the ground and not flying in the heaven. Yes, my Macbook Pro 2021 is great, probably best Macbook ever, but it is not perfect!
And as you can see I have M1 Max which I have paid more than 4000€ and I can still stay objective.
And I can confirmed that it is really bulky, heavy and it is not an illusion at all! I had previously Macbook Pro and Macbook Air 2018 and it was really thin in comparison with M1Pro/Max.
But as I wrote before I do not care about bulkiness because it is the price of better cooling and more performance.
I think people should stay on the ground and not flying in the heaven. Yes, my Macbook Pro 2021 is great, probably best Macbook ever, but it is not perfect!
Just because the OP says they were a professional gamer and uses that to justify Apple's gaming issue is no excuse to justify the M1 Pro max as being the best laptop of all time.
Giving a laptop a title of 'Best laptop of all time', means that laptop has to be able to do EVERYTHING. You cannot exclude one part and say it's still the best, it isn't. Gaming is an issue because people do play games on their laptops and thus it is an issue that cannot be ignored when giving titles away. As such, due to it's lacking in game play ability, the macbook is not the best laptop of all time.
Giving a laptop a title of 'Best laptop of all time', means that laptop has to be able to do EVERYTHING. You cannot exclude one part and say it's still the best, it isn't. Gaming is an issue because people do play games on their laptops and thus it is an issue that cannot be ignored when giving titles away. As such, due to it's lacking in game play ability, the macbook is not the best laptop of all time.
I bought my MBP from John Lewis.John Lewis in the U.K. you can't order custom build machines from them though. But they do the default Pro and Max configurations I've been looking at.
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It is the most middle class thing I have ever done.
The two year warranty swung it for me however on the downside should I experience an issue I would expect to be without a machine for some time...
- About 90% of all laptops still have 720p webcams, also 4k would be nonsense (conference bandwidth)
- HDMI 2.0b is not "old", its just a bit less new than 2.1. Also, no TV or projector needs 8k/120Hz
- The chassis is not bulky. The 14" is thinner than the 13". Also, function over design (finally again)
- You are using it wrong. Either you really require the Max power, or you should have got the M1 Pro.
Great reading, this.
I've read some people complain (elsewhere) that Macbooks still don't support face ID login. Do you know what I can absolutely guarantee? Every single one of those people complaining aren't twins or triplets. My kids are twins (I say kids, they're 19 at university). They purposefully bought iPhone SE 2's so as to have an iPhone which would let them login with their fingerprints, not Face ID. Face ID is IMO is a seriously janky technology which should be completely phased out.
I've read some people complain (elsewhere) that Macbooks still don't support face ID login. Do you know what I can absolutely guarantee? Every single one of those people complaining aren't twins or triplets. My kids are twins (I say kids, they're 19 at university). They purposefully bought iPhone SE 2's so as to have an iPhone which would let them login with their fingerprints, not Face ID. Face ID is IMO is a seriously janky technology which should be completely phased out.
Haha may be middle class, but it’s better value them buying from Apple direct. I’m sorely tempted by the no interest credit option.
I don't have the new M1 MacBook so I can't comment on it myself, but that's not what being "best" means... It just means that it's better than everything that precedes it. It doesn't have to be perfect.
Apple thought views like this were actually important, and for a few unfortunate years produced great-looking substandard crap that made their core users (creators) question their life choices. I'm so glad Apple have seen the light and given us a comparatively bulky 'ugly' laptop that actually is back on track and worthy of the pro moniker.
It is funny how people can find excuses to justify flaws. What is the name? iSheep? ?
"Skate where the puck is the going to be", Apple has once again gives surprises to users on functions that never thought on a laptop, and pushed revolution to the industry.
Before the M1 came out, no one was discussing about the laptop needs of "performance per watt" and thermals remain cool. Even Microsoft was the early adoption of ARM chips on their Surface tablets, not many people were aware of it, and it was not marketed as Pro machines, instead they marketed as convenience and light-task focused. The 2021 MacBook Pro changed the game, they proved the ability of current and future pro workflows are possible on laptops.
Who would have thought that laptops can have pro workflows, that don't need sacrifice on thermal and battery, even don't ever need chargers to enable full power. What's more, the M1 Pro/Max chips even beat their own Mac Pro using Intel high-end CPUs and AMD GPUs.
That's how Apple directed people to focus back on creativity and working, no concerns on the workflow has to be compromised or what so ever. It's always the motto of Apple, and Steve Jobs, users don't exactly know what they want, so they figure out before they do.
I have the 14" M1 Max, upgraded from the Late 2013 15" MBP. I never expected a laptop can be powerful like a desktop, while staying cool and silent when doing basic tasks, but remains so insanely fast on every click. And because of the ports I used to have on the old MacBook Pro, shifting to the new one was so smooth for me. No need to head ache on a dongle, keeping the HDMI cable with my external monitor, and the MagSafe charging method same as before. It's the best Mac I've ever owned, and gains back my trust on Apple computers.
Before the M1 came out, no one was discussing about the laptop needs of "performance per watt" and thermals remain cool. Even Microsoft was the early adoption of ARM chips on their Surface tablets, not many people were aware of it, and it was not marketed as Pro machines, instead they marketed as convenience and light-task focused. The 2021 MacBook Pro changed the game, they proved the ability of current and future pro workflows are possible on laptops.
Who would have thought that laptops can have pro workflows, that don't need sacrifice on thermal and battery, even don't ever need chargers to enable full power. What's more, the M1 Pro/Max chips even beat their own Mac Pro using Intel high-end CPUs and AMD GPUs.
That's how Apple directed people to focus back on creativity and working, no concerns on the workflow has to be compromised or what so ever. It's always the motto of Apple, and Steve Jobs, users don't exactly know what they want, so they figure out before they do.
I have the 14" M1 Max, upgraded from the Late 2013 15" MBP. I never expected a laptop can be powerful like a desktop, while staying cool and silent when doing basic tasks, but remains so insanely fast on every click. And because of the ports I used to have on the old MacBook Pro, shifting to the new one was so smooth for me. No need to head ache on a dongle, keeping the HDMI cable with my external monitor, and the MagSafe charging method same as before. It's the best Mac I've ever owned, and gains back my trust on Apple computers.
Not a big fan of the notch neither the of the new 'bulky' chassis design BUT in terms of compilation times and overall responsiveness it ruins my 2018 8-core iMac Pro being dead-silent at the same time! Not a big fan of laptops, fingers crossed for a mac mini with M1 Pro. ?
Yeah, kind of reduced the credibility of that video for me: obsessing at length about not seeing the transfer speed.
But I did relate to some of his criticisms about Finder.
These are mainly issues with getting used to a different OS, with its different quirks, not hardware. What slightly amuses me is Windows users trying to force MacOS to behave like Windows (or vice versa).
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No arguments left, just insulting? Not gonna waste my time with you any longer than. You posted crap, I listed facts.
And nothing of those are major "flaws". If you regard a 1080p webcam or 1.55/1.68cm thin chassis as "flaws" then I wish you best luck finding a better alternative (or inventing one yourself). Hint: Currently there isn't one. Even PC masterrace users agree here, when focusing on hardware - software is something subjective. Whining about the notch or HDMI 2.0 is nitpicking. We had far worse issues before.